[Discussion] Tobi's True Identity is....

deluxhollatme

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Ok, so I've seen hundreds of people come with theories on who Tobi really is. Everything from Madara using Obito's body, to Izuna trying to surpass his brother. There's probably still a good number of people who believe that he is Danzo or some type of Zetsu replica(that's the theory I lean towards.)

But when you really think about it, can Tobi really be any of those people? Hasn't his character development evolved him into some sort of super-evil genius who's surpassed the limitations of all those characters?

Think about it. Madara's true intentions had been to make the world recognize the Uchiha as the ultimate clan. After being shunned, he became obssessed with destroying the Hidden Leaf and getting his revenge on the Senju AND Uchiha. So, when the oppurtunity presents itself, he uses the Kyuubi to attack Konoha and destroy it once and for all but is stopped by 4th right? Wrong!!!

If Tobi really is Madara than his plans must've been in place since his battle with Hashirama. He also must've met Zetsu before that battle in order to know that he could aquire Hashirama's powers by creating that giant plant, which is where Orochimaru comes into play. He must've helped Tobi create that thing. How else does Kabuto know so much about it? More proof that Tobi and Orochimaru have worked together before? During Sasuke vs. Danzo, Tobi states that Orochimaru must've forcibly altered the amount of time Danzo's sharingan could use Izanagi.

So who is Tobi? If he ever was Madara, he isn't anymore. I believe that the attack on Konoha was planned by him and Danzo, so that the leaf would suspect the Uchiha and mistrust them. Bringing about the need for the Uchiha clan massacre, an event that both Danzo and Tobi benfited from. I don't believe that Tobi is trying to complete some "Eye of The Moon Plan," but instead is trying to achieve that power of the Sage of Six Paths.

Why lie? Why not. If Tobi wanted the Juuybi why not take Naruto when he spoke to him about Sasuke? Why not keep the Juuybi instead of attacking the village? There is something else he hopes to gain from this war. And once that's revealed, I think we'll find out that Tobi stopped being Madara a long time ago.
 
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Maybe he didn't attack naruto at that point in time due to the fact they havn't captured the eight tails killer bee? Or maybe the fact that naruto had defeated pein so madara was slightly intemidated by narutos stength as madara did not possess the rinnegan at that moment in time. I also think he is planning to attack konoha so he can take the tablet that the uchiha clan has under konoha. I must be to big for madara to just teleport.
 

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Thats a really good theory dude, but i still belive "Eye of the moon plan" tenth bijuu is still one of his goals, otherwise it would just be stupid even going after them if it had nothing to do with them, but you raise a good point about why tobi never took naruto stright away, maybe he could be scared, i even doubt that tbh, all i know is that tobi know naruto is going to be the hardest one to catch, and as for bee, i dont think he has nothing to worry about either
 

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So who is Tobi? If he ever was Madara, he isn't anymore. I believe that the attack on Konoha was planned by him and Danzo, so that the leaf would suspect the Uchiha and mistrust them. Bringing about the need for the Uchiha clan massacre, an event that both Danzo and Tobi benfited from. I don't believe that Tobi is trying to complete some "Eye of The Moon Plan," but instead is trying to achieve that power of the Sage of Six Paths.
The Uchiha were already Isolated out of the leaf village at that time. were they not?

also why didn't Tobi capture naruto at the time? why wasn't it possible or why did he not choose to?

Maybe he wants this war... because he needs to take over 2 bijuu's and if he wins the war... then he pretty much takes over the whole ninja world?
 

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I don't know which manga i read it, but to achieve the Juuybi, the Nine Tails has to be sealed as least, cause it's the most powerfull chakra beast and would become instable. Therefore naruto will be their last target.
 

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I don't know which manga i read it, but to achieve the Juuybi, the Nine Tails has to be sealed as least, cause it's the most powerfull chakra beast and would become instable. Therefore Naruto will be their last target.
still take note that 100% of the kyuubi can't be achieved because Minato sealed the yin?(50%) or the yang?(50%) inside of him (forget which side but he had half the 9tailed fox chakra inside of him)
 
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