[Discussion] Tobi's S/T tech is completely useless against Minato?

[Sageofslxpaths]

hmmm well from what we've seen of tobi's dimension I would say yes because it is a tangible place and there's no dist problem with minato's S/T jutsu.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Have you ever seen Minato throw his Kunai to another dimension ? If he is (inside) Tobi dimension, wouldnt he go where his kunai landed in that dimension? If Minato threw a kunai in the leaf , does that mean he can appear in the sand ? And thats in the same dimension . So i dont think so but you might be right .We have seen tobi warp from village to village . We have never seen minato do that !

I don't really get your point. Note that Minato initially has Kunai scattered throughout Konoha. Which is like his beacon and safe way out no matter where he is. Also, I don't see why Minato cannot teleport from village to village. I mean he teleported from a pretty far distance to save kakashi during kakshi gaiden.

 

[-Hades-]

If Minato can still detect/sense his Kunais then yes why not. Like you guys said, it's a S/T jutsu, not movement so he should be able to do it.

The question is if Minato is able to sense his Kunais from within that dimension in order for him to teleport.

 

[blackstar9]

I don't really get your point. Note that Minato initially has Kunai scattered throughout Konoha. Which is like his beacon and safe way out no matter where he is. Also, I don't see why Minato cannot teleport from village to village. I mean he teleported from a pretty far distance to save kakashi during kakshi gaiden.

what dont you get ? you say his kunai are scattered in konoha , Tobis dimension is not in konoha ! so how would that help him? The know matter where he is part you just made up .Have you ever seen minato teleport to another village no !!!

 

[blackstar9]

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he has them hanging in his house he could just go there

So your saying his kunai can travel thru different dimensions? There is no proof of that. We have only seen him use ftg to go to places nearby!

 

[ShishaMastah420]

I'm not really sure if he can teleport and cast a genjutsu simultaneously. Which I doubt, because no proof has shown this is possible. Apart from showing Fuu/Torune in a paralyzed state where I presume Tobi casted a genjutsu on them afterwards. Who knows?? but nevertheless I doubt this.

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He cast the Genjutsu once whatever he is warping is inside the Pocket Dimension...

 

[-Hades-]

what dont you get ? you say his kunai are scattered in konoha , Tobis dimension is not in konoha ! so how would that help him? The know matter where he is part you just made up .Have you ever seen minato teleport to another village no !!!

As far as we know distance is not a problem. He teleported quite some distance when resquing Kakashi, when teleporting with Kushina.
So as far as we know his jutsu is not limited by the distance he teleports as long as he can sense his Kunai. So don't go making stuff up unless you have proof from the manga.
And actually another argument for this is that he has Kunais lying around the place, if he couldn't teleport there regardless of his location, then what would be the point to have them there in the first place.

And no, the Kunais can't travel through dimensions but they don't need to. He is in Tobi's dimension, and his kunai is in Konoha. Tell me where does this imply that he has to "throw" his kunai through dimensions?

Oh and don't multi-post as it is against the rules.

 

[blackstar9]

Hades im not sure how the double post thing works im new. please explain it to me .

You said (as far as we know) distance is not a problem. And i shouldnt make statements without proof. Well show me where it states Minato can use FTG no matter the distance in the manga !!!! Also show me where it states Minato can Travel thru dimensions using FTG !!! So admit your assuming that.

 

[-Hades-]

Hades im not sure how the double post thing works im new. please explain it to me .

You said (as far as we know) distance is not a problem. And i shouldnt make statements without proof. Well show me where it states Minato can use FTG no matter the distance in the manga !!!! Also show me where it states Minato can Travel thru dimensions using FTG !!! So admit your assuming that.

Ok first: multi-posting means you post after yourself. You need to have someone post after you before posting again, otherwise it is called spam.
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Now Saying that minato can/can't teleport through dimensions is an assumption either way you put it. I said he could do it, as long as he can sense his Kunais in the outside world, if not then it would indeed be impossible for him to get out. And i doubt anyone could bring a proper argument (with proof) that he couldn't do it.

Now about the distance (which it wouldn't really matter because Tobi's dimension isn't a place that you could measure a distance from) We have seen Minato teleport quite some distance (yea i know that distance isn't as big as village to village but even so)

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This is when he saved Kakashi, and he wasn't nearby.

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He managed to teleport to Kushina which was pretty far away from the village (considering the full scale Kiuby was shown but wasn't visible from the village -and he's as big as the Hokage monument-, nor did the village itself appear in any panel)

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Also look where he teleported Kurama's blast. (Yea i know that is not FTG but the S/T barrier is still connected to FTG, he did use the Kunai to create it.)

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And finally FTG is a S/T jutsu, and works kinda like a reverse summoning, and we have seen that the summons live pretty far away from the battlefields where they get summoned.
And also since it bends space and time i doubt the distance (space) would make any difference, maybe it would require more chakra but besides that i don't really see any problems.