[Predictions] tobirama's relation with nardo & minato

[The Sach]

i can understand why u disagree
but their conversations with each other sometimes looks to me like foreshadowing of some shorts.

But we don't have solid proof for that and talking about conversations I am getting a feeling that Minato always looked upon Tobirama, just like Konohamaru thinks Naruto is his idol and tries to learn each and every technique he learned...:yeah:

Except Edo Tensei uses HandSeals. FTG isn't... Tobirama & Minato have so much in common, I doubt if that was just a coincidence

I disagree with that 'so much', they have techniques in common, but that doesn't make them relatives in my opinion, and I read your theory stating that 'Minato is Senju' and disagree with few points, for example, that chakra cloak thing...

 

[naruttebayo]

But we don't have solid proof for that and talking about conversations I am getting a feeling that Minato always looked upon Tobirama, just like Konohamaru thinks Naruto is his idol and tries to learn each and every technique he learned...:yeah:

I disagree with that 'so much', they have techniques in common, but that doesn't make them relatives in my opinion, and I read your theory stating that 'Minato is Senju' and disagree with few points, for example, that chakra cloak thing...

there is no point of prediction, if we have a solid proof :yeah:
but hints are always there

 

[The Sach]

there is no point of prediction, if we have a solid proof :yeah:
but hints are always there

Hmmm..You caught me out there, buddy...XDXD

 

[Avinash012]

I read a theory on same topic yesterday(which was far much better than this thread), frankly speaking I didn't agree with that one and I don't agree with this one...Kabuto took Oro's edo tensei to the next level are they related?? Gai looks similar to Lee are they related??

Nah this theory is better than previous one and I Agree with u r point here ...but there are alot of hints that suggests that Minato is a direct descendant of Senju (Grand son of either Hashirama or Tobirama)

Naruto being Parallel to hashirama :

Naruto isn't a Senju to bear the fate of Senju clan, he isn't even a full Uzumaki to began with...

Obito's statement : Senju dominated Uchiha all the time we already knw Saru isn't a Senju who else is there in Hokage face..it is Minato

Minato & Naruto charecters are same as Hashirama(kind ,Goofy and Battle smart)....

Both Minato and Hashirama susked at namng jutsu..

Minato's chakra feats during Kyubi's attack...Really Impossible for a normal Shiobi even if he is a God at Chakra control

Minato's wife being Uzumaki as well as Jin of Kyubi just like Hashirama....

Minato's similarities with Tobirama..

Only Tobirama and Obito can use a s/t ninjutsu effectively without any prob besides Minato and both of them are from Blessed clan...
Minato fighting Kyubi along with an Uchiha : Same as Hashirama
Tobirama scolding them like family members..
Naruto being Identical to Nawaki...

More Importently

Tsunades feelings towords Minato....


Iam not saying that Minato is related to Senju just bcoz of all these reasons....

We can't ignore them just by sayng Coincidence...Kishi may be hinting that .....

 

[naruttebayo]

Nah this theory is better than previous one and I Agree with u r point here ...but there are alot of hints that suggests that Minato is a direct descendant of Senju (Grand son of either Hashirama or Tobirama)

Naruto being Parallel to hashirama :

Naruto isn't a Senju to bear the fate of Senju clan, he isn't even a full Uzumaki to began with...

Obito's statement : Senju dominated Uchiha all the time we already knw Saru isn't a Senju who else is there in Hokage face..it is Minato

Minato & Naruto charecters are same as Hashirama(kind ,Goofy and Battle smart)....

Both Minato and Hashirama susked at namng jutsu..

Minato's chakra feats during Kyubi's attack...Really Impossible for a normal Shiobi even if he is a God at Chakra control

Minato's wife being Uzumaki as well as Jin of Kyubi just like Hashirama....

Minato's similarities with Tobirama..

Only Tobirama and Obito can use a s/t ninjutsu effectively without any prob besides Minato and both of them are from Blessed clan...
Minato fighting Kyubi along with an Uchiha : Same as Hashirama
Tobirama scolding them like family members..
Naruto being Identical to Nawaki...

More Importently

Tsunades feelings towords Minato....


Iam not saying that Minato is related to Senju just bcoz of all these reasons....

We can't ignore them just by sayng Coincidence...Kishi may be hinting that .....

thanks for the hard work dude
i hate typing that much,
and it feels futile, when people just reject ur theory.Zzz

 

[Draxus]

Nah this theory is better than previous one and I Agree with u r point here ...but there are alot of hints that suggests that Minato is a direct descendant of Senju (Grand son of either Hashirama or Tobirama)

Naruto being Parallel to hashirama :

Naruto isn't a Senju to bear the fate of Senju clan, he isn't even a full Uzumaki to began with...

Obito's statement : Senju dominated Uchiha all the time we already knw Saru isn't a Senju who else is there in Hokage face..it is Minato

Minato & Naruto charecters are same as Hashirama(kind ,Goofy and Battle smart)....

Both Minato and Hashirama susked at namng jutsu..

Minato's chakra feats during Kyubi's attack...Really Impossible for a normal Shiobi even if he is a God at Chakra control

Minato's wife being Uzumaki as well as Jin of Kyubi just like Hashirama....

Minato's similarities with Tobirama..

Only Tobirama and Obito can use a s/t ninjutsu effectively without any prob besides Minato and both of them are from Blessed clan...
Minato fighting Kyubi along with an Uchiha : Same as Hashirama
Tobirama scolding them like family members..
Naruto being Identical to Nawaki...

More Importently

Tsunades feelings towords Minato....


Iam not saying that Minato is related to Senju just bcoz of all these reasons....

We can't ignore them just by sayng Coincidence...Kishi may be hinting that .....

The thing that flies in the face of all this is... Might Gei and Rock Lee. They are pretty much clones of each other with no blood relation.

I really hate how people are trying to make it so if you're not from some special clan you're fodder. It's possible for people to be good without it.

 

[Minator93]

Even if there's no blood ties between them but Minato is the son Tobirama always wanted and Naruto as the Grandson!!

 

[naruttebayo]

The thing that flies in the face of all this is... Might Gei and Rock Lee. They are pretty much clones of each other with no blood relation.

I really hate how people are trying to make it so if you're not from some special clan you're fodder. It's possible for people to be good without it.

lee can't use ninjutsu ...... guy can (summoning jutsu is S/T ninjutsu)
they can't have the same blood line
also
they know each other for so long, unlike minato/tobirama who can have a relation yet un-revealed to people.

lee copies even the personality .... while minato/tobirama/naruto have entirely different personalities.

 

[The Sach]

OK, i think I have to counter everything...

Nah this theory is better than previous one and I Agree with u r point here ...but there are alot of hints that suggests that Minato is a direct descendant of Senju (Grand son of either Hashirama or Tobirama)

Naruto being Parallel to hashirama :

Parallelism, parallelism everywhere, and ya they don't need to be related..

Naruto isn't a Senju to bear the fate of Senju clan, he isn't even a full Uzumaki to began with...

But he is child of prophecy...:yeah:

Obito's statement : Senju dominated Uchiha all the time we already knw Saru isn't a Senju who else is there in Hokage face..it is Minato

Minato & Naruto charecters are same as Hashirama(kind ,Goofy and Battle smart)....

Ya they are but again parallelism, by this logic Sakura is senju(character similar to Tsunade)...

Both Minato and Hashirama susked at namng jutsu..

I don't remember where it said that Hashirama sucked in it, show some scan please...

Minato's chakra feats during Kyubi's attack...Really Impossible for a normal Shiobi even if he is a God at Chakra control

That's where people go wrong buddy, Minato had probably nice chakra control, or probably he had geat chakra reserves...I want to tell you something important here, 'you can increase your chakra reserves due to training', it is clearly seen in case of Kakashi, who wasn't capable of using Sharigan many times in the beginning of the series, used MS many times in war...

Minato's wife being Uzumaki as well as Jin of Kyubi just like Hashirama....

coincidence...

Minato's similarities with Tobirama..

As I said it earlier, I think it is like Naruto and Konohamaru thing...

Only Tobirama and Obito can use a s/t ninjutsu effectively without any prob besides Minato and both of them are from Blessed clan...

Training buddy, only Sakura can use that seal thingy doesn't mean she is senju or related to Tsunade..

Minato fighting Kyubi along with an Uchiha : Same as Hashirama

But Minato was only able to seal it, Hashirama was able to 'defeat' him..

Tobirama scolding them like family members..

Because Tobirama thinks Minato is like a family member to him, he 'thinks', doesn't mean it is true...:yeah:

Naruto being Identical to Nawaki...

Coincidence,I read thread saying Rin is from Inuzuka clan..

More Importently

Tsunades feelings towards Minato....

Tsunade has that family like feeling for Sakura, doesn't mean she is Senju...

Iam not saying that Minato is related to Senju just bcoz of all these reasons....

We can't ignore them just by sayng Coincidence...Kishi may be hinting that .....

Ya, we can't ignore them, at this moment my answer to all this is lets keep it on hold, until we have any solid proof here...I will gladly agree with you, if it is revealed that he is senju..=D=D

 

[The Sach]

thanks for the hard work dude
i hate typing that much,
and it feels futile, when people just reject ur theory.Zzz

I am not rejecting your theory...:yeah: I just want to see more proofs dude, and besides you are the one who said that it is prediction and not theory, you are contradicting yourself here, buddy...XD

 

[Avinash012]

OK, i think I have to counter everything...

Parallelism, parallelism everywhere, and ya they don't need to be related..


But he is child of prophecy...:yeah:


Ya they are but again parallelism, by this logic Sakura is senju(character similar to Tsunade)...


I don't remember where it said that Hashirama sucked in it, show some scan please...

That's where people go wrong buddy, Minato had probably nice chakra control, or probably he had geat chakra reserves...I want to tell you something important here, 'you can increase your chakra reserves due to training', it is clearly seen in case of Kakashi, who wasn't capable of using Sharigan many times in the beginning of the series, used MS many times in war...

coincidence...

As I said it earlier, I think it is like Naruto and Konohamaru thing...

Training buddy, only Sakura can use that seal thingy doesn't mean she is senju or related to Tsunade..


But Minato was only able to seal it, Hashirama was able to 'defeat' him..


Because Tobirama thinks Minato is like a family member to him, he 'thinks', doesn't mean it is true...:yeah:

Coincidence,I read thread saying Rin is from Inuzuka clan..

Tsunade has that family like feeling for Sakura, doesn't mean she is Senju...


Ya, we can't ignore them, at this moment my answer to all this is lets keep it on hold, until we have any solid proof here...I will gladly agree with you, if it is revealed that he is senju..=D=D

Hum Like I said all these are just hints not exact Proofs and Can u plz show me any other charecters Having that many similarities and coincidence's....?

 

[captainaruto]

There simply isn't time gap between minato and tobirama to make them related.... Senju doesn't become namikaze just by one generation..... So no....

 

[Avinash012]

There simply isn't time gap between minato and tobirama to make them related.... Senju doesn't become namikaze just by one generation..... So no....

Let us taka a look at time Gap

First Generation:Hashirama,Madara,Izuna and Tobirama

2nd GenerationSons and Students of first generation)
Sarutobi,Danzo and elders

3rd Generation: (Sons and students of 2nd Gen , Grand child of first Gen)

Sannin's

4th Gen : Minato's generation

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

Minato being a Senju makes more a lot of sense than not being...

There's always a chance

 

[Oriver]

Then again . . . . If Tsunade is Hashi's Niece . . .that would mean she was Tobirama's Daughter.
[I don't recall seeing any other siblings beyond the three brothers and the youngest seemed to die before having kids.]

Oriver

 

[naruttebayo]

I am not rejecting your theory...:yeah: I just want to see more proofs dude, and besides you are the one who said that it is prediction and not theory, you are contradicting yourself here, buddy...XD

i'm not contradicting.... if i had put such efforts, this will be called a theory not a prediction.

besides no theory in this world is full proof all are based on assumptions

if you like physics u must know this

 

[shdw]

Nah this theory is better than previous one and I Agree with u r point here ...but there are alot of hints that suggests that Minato is a direct descendant of Senju (Grand son of either Hashirama or Tobirama)

Naruto being Parallel to hashirama :

Naruto isn't a Senju to bear the fate of Senju clan, he isn't even a full Uzumaki to began with...

Obito's statement : Senju dominated Uchiha all the time we already knw Saru isn't a Senju who else is there in Hokage face..it is Minato

Minato & Naruto charecters are same as Hashirama(kind ,Goofy and Battle smart)....

Both Minato and Hashirama susked at namng jutsu..

Minato's chakra feats during Kyubi's attack...Really Impossible for a normal Shiobi even if he is a God at Chakra control

Minato's wife being Uzumaki as well as Jin of Kyubi just like Hashirama....

Minato's similarities with Tobirama..

Only Tobirama and Obito can use a s/t ninjutsu effectively without any prob besides Minato and both of them are from Blessed clan...
Minato fighting Kyubi along with an Uchiha : Same as Hashirama
Tobirama scolding them like family members..
Naruto being Identical to Nawaki...

More Importently

Tsunades feelings towords Minato....


Iam not saying that Minato is related to Senju just bcoz of all these reasons....

We can't ignore them just by sayng Coincidence...Kishi may be hinting that .....

nice theory and pointing out the similarities a lil foreshadowing which im sure doesn't happened in naruto. tsunades feelings for minato???

 

[-ahhimane-]

Re: tobirama's relation with naruto & minato

tobirama scolding them both for their stupidity (

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hashirama is there too, but no such words/team work from him.

tobirama created FTG - > minato took it to next level
tobirama created Shadow clone jutsu -> naruto took it to next level
&
their spiky hair.

m i d only one who thinks tobirama is grandpa/great-grandpa of minato/nardo
:bouncy:

few more examples:
tobirama created ET -> oro took it next level .....
OOps that doesn't fit well hehe ,but oro is irrelevant, & doesn't have spiky hair.


well i just wanted to say, tobirama could be their (minardo's) ancestor .. well that's that.
so what do you think

discuss, comment, have a nice day.

bold words. Hashirama is now dragged in battle by Madara so he's busy in his matter. You're thinking too much. It is just because Tobirama is working with them and nothing else. Even Sasuke got in sync with Naruto on the battlefield without working with him for so long. Jutsus are made to reach the next upper level. There is no blood relation for such reasons. Cool down for a while and think again. U_U

 

[naruttebayo]

There simply isn't time gap between minato and tobirama to make them related.... Senju doesn't become namikaze just by one generation..... So no....

what if tobirama had a daughter ?

bold words. Hashirama is now dragged in battle by Madara so he's busy in his matter. You're thinking too much. It is just because Tobirama is working with them and nothing else. Even Sasuke got in sync with Naruto on the battlefield without working with him for so long. Jutsus are made to reach the next upper level. There is no blood relation for such reasons. Cool down for a while and think again. U_U

exchanging few words won't hurt. U_U

when minato deflected the TBB both hiruzen and tobirama were impressed.(@ the time of their arrival) , but no words from hashi.

besides that was a mute point Zzz

 

[-ahhimane-]

what if tobirama had a daughter ?

Bro compare the grandchildren of both the Senju brothers
Hashirama => Tsunade
Tobirama => Minato (as predicted by you)
Tsunade's age and Minato's age should be more less within a close range. There's no match for their ages. Jiraiya seemed to be an old man facing Minato.
On the base, members had even made theories on Minato being the son of Jiraiya and Tsunade (hidden s*x)