Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

[Oronagato]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Tobirama mercilessly fodderizes Tsunade.

Feats aren't necessary when there's hype.

 

[EPICMenma]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

please i hope this can clear up things around here and for you too.
That was Tsunade's base speed i know madara said she's slower but there was no indication of her infusing chackra to her feet or change it to raiton to augmented her speed.
let me explain now about the speed issue.........
Tsunade is one of the fastest opponents and her speed exceeds above an average ninja (wiki facts and databook facts)

Speed isn't Tsunade's Problem just like every Gennin to kage level ninja who can infuse chackra in any body parts (mostly feet and hands) Tsunade can do this too seen here

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Here below you can clearly see she infuse her chackra in her legs/feet

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In-fact Not only can she do that, but she can take it even further, with her RAITON RELEASE, to enhance/augment her speed much more as seen here below she can give her chackra lightning properties, whenever she feels like

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With that nimble movement below, she incapacitated kabuto with her technique without him even aware

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U are another ignorant member who refuse to accept Naruto's Facts!
Speed are many ninjas' problem. If Speed isnt Tsunade's problem, Tobirama would solos Her. Otherwise, We dont know what kind of Tobirama's full power. plus, Speed is Tsunade's probably weakness..Your argument is invalid. That's it, i'm done..

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Great theory man, you have my respect. I always thought Tsunade is the 2nd weakest Hokage, but after reading this I'm not sure what to think.

THANK YOU I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT

Zesto is probably Tobirama's hater..

and no i hate no fictional senju character I'm just stopping you people in your tracks because you guys like to dis Tsunade a lot and exaggerat on Tobirama's capabilities to the point where i saw one of you created a Hashi<<Tobirama's thread,

 

[Joshutsu]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

both have large chakra pools but we are talking about someone who is gona be taking a lot of damage (might loose limbs) in the middle of a fight and she can do nothing to stop this from coming while the other keeps attacking. wounds, regenerate (if she had the time, she is alone here), wounds, regenerate, it's like shooting the target until it falls. tsunade's greatest feats are her medical abilities (she is a medic) not that good in combat. and about the total darkness ..... just NO, and the same goes for the ranged techs.

She can get around his suiton attacks anyway im sure shes capable of getting in close to him she is cool enough at close range those 5 susano can attest to that, and i never said she could break bringer of darkness but we don't know the extent of her genjutsu ability just like we don't know the extent of tobiramas suiton

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Tobirama mercilessly fodderizes Tsunade.

Feats aren't necessary when there's hype.

oh really, then in the first place how would he earned his hype if he didn't possesses sufficient feats? i think you are one of the most committed TROLLERS on NB

 

[TheEvilOne]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

In the Shinobi world only a few ninja earned the LEGENDARY title. They are the best ninjas ever. Only the gods are stronger then them. And Tsunade is a LEGENDARY Sannin. This can't be a coincidence. Just saying

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

She can get around his suiton attacks anyway im sure shes capable of getting in close to him she is cool enough at close range those 5 susano can attest to that, and i never said she could break bringer of darkness but we don't know the extent of her genjutsu ability just like we don't know the extent of tobiramas suiton

Joshutsu come to think of it, bringer of darkness is not much of a problem for Tsunade seen how she has her slug who can sense atmospheric conditions and vibrations with her bottom sensors I know Tsunade would utilize her summon for that purpose since she hasn't displayed any feat to omit that jutsu, similar to how Hiruzen utilized the demon seal to seek out Hashirama and Tobirama, Katsuyu would just telepathically let Tsunade knows whats going on.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

She can get around his suiton attacks anyway im sure shes capable of getting in close to him she is cool enough at close range those 5 susano can attest to that, and i never said she could break bringer of darkness but we don't know the extent of her genjutsu ability just like we don't know the extent of tobiramas suiton

hehe ok, but you do realize you are talking about what you think "she could be capable of doing", while she is the character that had a 1on1 fight (really looked bad) and a 5on1 fight (among the best shinobi of this generation). anyways, what we both think doesn't matter really lol so lets wait and see what tobirama will do (what the writer thinks) in the next chapters.

 

[Joshutsu]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

hehe ok, but you do realize you are talking about what you think "she could be capable of doing", while she is the character that had a 1on1 fight (really looked bad) and a 5on1 fight (among the best shinobi of this generation). anyways, what we both think doesn't matter really lol so lets wait and see what tobirama will do (what the writer thinks) in the next chapters.

We are bother talking about what we think, versus threads are full of thought esp since most of the pair ups for combat are likely to never happen. It would be dumb for kishi to not show off who he refers to as the big fish lol, but hey he trolled his 'ultimate team' so who knows. Reguardless of what we see tobi didn't get any stronger in death other than chakara edo ability so we will see, one things for sure we know he is weaker than hashi and madara so i know what to expect.

 

[Micho22]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Tobirama loses to tsunade he has no feats
Besides his attacks are not strong enough to kill tsunade but tsunades attacks are sure strong enough ti cut his body in half

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

U are another ignorant member who refuse to accept Naruto's Facts!
Speed are many ninjas' problem. If Speed isnt Tsunade's problem, Tobirama would solos Her. Otherwise, We dont know what kind of Tobirama's full power. plus, Speed is Tsunade's probably weakness..Your argument is invalid. That's it, i'm done..

Sigh when did databook states this downgrade about Tsunade, bro lets just drop this act

Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total

Third 5 5 3.5 5 5 3.5 4 4 35


this was before the Kages arc so yeah expect an upgrade, and guys i do believe that A and the other kages needs some stats as well what are your thoughts? Only Gaara and Tsunade has stats.......

people like to speak about speed issue well half of 5 is 2.5 not 3.5....... 3.5 is above AVERAGE SPEEDSTERS Like iruka and Genma... Tsunade base speed has a 1 rank margin above the average shinobi.....That 3.5 alacrity is what Madara recorded she didn't augmented her speed at least by infusing her chackra in her legs, much less her raiton release, Naruto has the same 3.5 IN BASED SPEED AND YOU DON'T HEAR ANYONE CALLING NARUTO SLOW :|

 

[Strawberry]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Tsunade>>Tobirama

Up until now Tobirama hasn't executed a jutsu on a magnificent scale, to prove that he's better/stronger than Tsunade and lives up to his hypes........

This is what all of TOBIRAMA'S RIDICULOUS FAN-BOYS THINK CAN END TSUNADE

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They are even going to the extreme of saying that he will decapitate her with and instant strike, should i believe that, that will end her after everything she has endure thus far (bisected in half and healing kages)

please Tobirama fans i want you to take a look at this, and admit your mistakes.......

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK IN THIS PICTURE BELOW,you would realized that decapitation is priceless,

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Tsunade was able to heal herself (her nape and neck), from a RAITON JUTSU that was said to rip any animate object to cinders. She went via it sustaining a few bruises then healed afterwards. That Raiton technique was suppose to decimate her, and it didn't, So Tobirama's FTG or HIRAISHINGIRI slash wont be able to get the job done, I could admit, he can infuse his chackra in his sword to give him a sharper cut, since he doesn't possesses Raiton release like Tsunade to make his sword RAZOR SHARP, (Take for example Sasuke; he likes to infuse his raiton release in his sword for better accuracy and cut.) But look at this picture below,

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do you guys have any idea how sharp the kusanagi sword is ? even Enma commented about its edges and how it left him sore, it cut right through the monkey's hands, Yet it didn't split Tsunade's body in half, despite its close range and powerful strike,it should have severed her head from her body and her upper body from the lower, its not about Tsunade's ability to heal rapidly I'm trying to illustrating, but its the fact that she can tank severe/FATAL damages in a battle and retaliate complicatedly, without using rebirth at start.
So this should give you a hint that when she's in Byakugou mode any neck damage heals instantaneously......

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Hence why, the susano swords got stuck immediately when it impaled her.

I wouldn't even be surprise if he some how-Miraculously chops her head off and Katsuyu just re-attached her brain to her body.... Like when Kakuzu re-attached Hidan's head perfectly Lol......

I'm waiting on OMNIPOTENT/IKSOKRIPS AND GANG TO PROVE ME WRONG OR ADMIT THERE MISTAKES/MISCALCULATIONS
As for his water styles boys, well I'm not trying to be mean, but so far what i have seen isn't much and its weaker or better yet i should say that Tobirama's water styles currently are much smaller than Mei Terumi (the water goddess, with 2 KKG)

I think both Mizukages that we have seen so far could do much more damage in terms of water power than Tobirama

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I must give him credits far executing a water style jutsu that consumes a considerable amount of chackra, where there was no signs of water or liquid substance for supplement, but being an Edo Tensei we dont know what effect that could have on him after utilizing such power, HOWEVER THE REASON WHY IT WAS CALLED A HIGH LEVEL SUITON, IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRED A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF CHACKRA

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In terms of volume of suiton however i would give this to Mei

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she clearly extinguished Madara's ultra fire attack and incapacitated him with a follow up WATER STYLE

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Pertaining to the 2nd Mizukage's single bullet attack, it could kill anyone if aimed at the heart or upper body region.......

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I'm aware many of you guys will state the fact that water can drown Tsunade in fact it could drown any shinobi but it hasn't kill or drown anyone this entire time, the fact that Tobirama is a mid-long range fighter makes Tsunade is worst Nightmare as a TAIJUTSU MISTRESS besides an old Hiruzen dealt with his attacks effectively, thou he wasn't at full power and i agree on the matter and acknowledge the facts.

I'm still waiting on OMNIPOTENT AND GANG.
I dont want to engage in and Edo tensei argument, because we all know that Tsunade would demolished that weak crap, base on the fact that whosoever he summons wont be at full power, even if it's his brother HASHI and Tsunade pounded UCHIHA MADARA SEVERAL TIMES AND CORNERED HIM WITH THE KAGES..... we know Tsunade can use sealing jutsu as to being the granddaughter of the infamous MITO, but we haven't seen her use an offensive one, (which would give Tobirama the upper hand there, because of the resuscitation of the edo each time being destroyed) but Katsuyu seemly possess some other agglutinating ability to seal objects, so thats just that........

Penguin 2460 and others, I'm still waiting to hear your mighty admittance... or please correct me if I'm wrong
so there it is guys right now Tobirama is going to show us what he's truly made off, but until then i dont think in fact he shouldn't be above Tsunade in anyone's list

obviously even sakura is better then right?

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Tobirama loses to tsunade he has no feats
Besides his attacks are not strong enough to kill tsunade but tsunades attacks are sure strong enough ti cut his body in half

please enlightened them because Tobirama fans are persistent, hmm

 

[Omnipotent]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

So, you're downgrading every Hokage (excluding Hashirama) to put Tsunade above them?

If Hashirama was stated to make the Gokage's combined efforts look like nothing, and Tsunade, the "second strongest Hokage" to you was a part of that team, going by your logic, Hashirama would be able to take Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade low difficulty. That's how you know Tsunade's not the second strongest Hokage.

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

i was just wondering how much longer would it take before you 2 showed up (penguin 2460 and Omnipotent)......... what do you have to say about this i may ask?

 

[theTobiramaSenju]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Yea tsunade will give a hell of a fight to anyone but Tobirama, Hashirama, Obito and Nagato
But she's not a winner , she is a healer type, she had been spoiled as a child and not always fighting adult shinobi.
He is from another fighting league skill and when they say his water jutsu are great I believe them,

But eventually we will have to wait for the great battle of the next weeks

 

[Micho22]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

What jutsu has Tobirama to kill Tsunade ???
Hmmm yes noo
Woud a sword slash kill tsunade ??
Hahahahah know hell nooo Tsunade has mastered the same ability like the GOD OF SHINOBIS
Regeneration with no Hand Seals bammmm
She can summon Katsuyu
Amd with one single little pumch or strike it woud be the end for tobirama
Her strength was actually strong enough to break madaras ribcage susanoo even A was not able to do that and his strength coud kill someone very with very ease
Tsunade can outlast Tobirama

What is hype to you ??
Hype means nothing for me
Do you want to hear some hype of Tsunade ?
No because the fanboys always close their eyes if they didnt want to hear someting
Tsunade was hyped by jiraiya as the person whos combat feats are unsurpassed
She was the reason konoha won the second war
She was hyped by shikaku as the world strongest kunoichi
She was hyped from chojis father
So many ninjas praised her

She also was hyped many times in the manga but compared to tobirama she has manga feats
Wich makes her stronger than tobirama

 

[zesto]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

So, you're downgrading every Hokage (excluding Hashirama) to put Tsunade above them?

If Hashirama was stated to make the Gokage's combined efforts look like nothing, and Tsunade, the "second strongest Hokage" to you was a part of that team, going by your logic, Hashirama would be able to take Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade low difficulty. That's how you know Tsunade's not the second strongest Hokage.

this doesn't makes sense and your straying away from the point, Tsunade's team was composed of Mei Gaara, EI and Oonoki, also being the strongest hokage or second strongest hokage doesn't determine if you can beat all 4 other hokages at once or all 3 other hokages at once......... because i sure for hell know that Hashirama MOST DEFINITELY CANT BEAT all the hokages at once,
Minato, Tobirama and Hiruzen was just above EI, MEI AND GAARA'S LEVEL, if it wasn't for Tsunade and Oonoki the kages team would have been screwed earlier.......

 

[joodaa]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

This is ridiculous if you can't see how this turns out between the two of them then you probably shouldn't read this manga and find another one, you shouldn't even need to put something like this up for debate.

 

[S A G E]

Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

I can't wait to disprove your theory in the upcoming manga chapters.
Zesto, I will remember your name for being a naysayer Tobirama hater