Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

when did databook states that about Amaterasu, if i can recall clearly it hit KARIN'S CLOTHING NOT HER SKIN
Holy hell. What difference does that make if Amaterasu is as hot as the sun? @moe22 She is not melting.. She is sinking into the water
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

when did databook states that about Amaterasu, if i can recall clearly it hit KARIN'S CLOTHING NOT HER SKIN

Lol are you trippin'? Your saying if someone light your clothes on fire, you would be completely unharmed? Let alone Amaterasu, acknowledged to be the most powerful Fire Ninjutsu in existence, as hot as the sun. Lol.
 

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Kishi already called the four dead kokages the biggest of the big fish, a few weeks ago ppl wouldn't even except the fact that tobirama had ftg, and we've still seen practically none of his arsenal. I seriously doubt tsunade can handle any of the big fish when it comes to all the hokages before her.
 

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Right now she's simply bisected and near dead because she used all her chakra. If she can take a Susano'o sword to the abdomen, what makes you think she can't survive being bisected while using Byakugō?
Also to the jinton point, I have no counter-argument. I think this is a special case to where we'd have to see what would happen to know the truth. I admit, I was kinda wrong though :p
Yeah, i looked up the scan and it appears she actually ran out of byakugo, so my bad there as well. I still stand by my statement about her being decapitated though. If her head does get cut off, she has no means of healing it back on without the aid of someone else. If that happens, regardless of whether or not she actually dies, she is useless
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Such regeneration abilities
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

Kishimoto is laughing at this thread of failure :)
if you had one bit of knowledge you would see for yourself that current Tobirama doesn't stands a single chance against Tsunade at the moment...

Im sorry but that is ridiculous. There is a reason she is incapacitated at the moment. She doesnt appear to handle being cut in half very well. Particle de-materialization? There would be nothing left of her to regenerate. "This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form." Further, if she is decapitated, even if she somehow survives this, her head is free to be kicked around like a soccer ball

i think you are misunderstanding the JINTON ELEMENT........IT doesn't operates at Atomic/Particular level but it turns anything into contact at particles level or dust....... Tsunade can maintain her body molecules seen how she went through lighting and AFTERWARDS HEALED FROM IT. ( it was a jutsu similar to that of jinton that was to turn anything to cinders/dust)
 
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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

What if Tsunade is bisected and both half burnt? Will she regenerate?
 

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Kishi already qualified precedent Hokages as the strongest soldiers:

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I like Tsunade, but it's kind of obvious that all the precedent hokages are put above her
 

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if you had one bit of knowledge you would see for yourself that current Tobirama doesn't stands a single chance against Tsunade at the moment...



think you are misunderstanding the JINTON ELEMENT........IT doesn't operates at Atomic/Particular level but it turns anything into contact at particles level or dust....... Tsunade can maintain her body molecules seen how she went through lighting and AFTERWARDS HEALED FROM IT. ( it was a jutsu similar to that of jinton that was to turn anything to cinders/dust)
I am not misunderstanding the jinton element in any way. I quoted straight from the wiki, which sorry if youre going to doubt it, its still one of the most credible sources out there. It 100% operates at molecular levels.. Stated by Oonoki himself. The last point is ridiculous. With that logic, you could say A could handle jinton no problem since he also went through that jutsu? Hell no. That jutsu is not comparable to jinton in any way
 

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Before I continue debating with you fine folks, I'd like to point out zesto said CURRENT Tobirama would lose to Tsunade. What we see in the next couple of chapters is fair game...
 

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Kishi already called the four dead kokages the biggest of the big fish, a few weeks ago ppl wouldn't even except the fact that tobirama had ftg, and we've still seen practically none of his arsenal. I seriously doubt tsunade can handle any of the big fish when it comes to all the hokages before her.
sir not trying to be rude, but this makes no sense whatsoever, kishimoto ALREADY STATED THAT TSUNADE AND HER TEAM WAS THE ULTIMATE TEAM, SO HOW DO YOU counteract my statement now?
 

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What if Tsunade is bisected and both half burnt? Will she regenerate?

She would simply be rendered useless, but she wouldn't be dead. Also, she'd use her Byakugō to make it so it's one burning body, not two parts. Then she'd need to count on someone else to put out the fire, IDK say Katsuyu, then she could heal her burns. XD
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

this thread is better than you tsunade>BM naruto thread Lol
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

this thread is better than you tsunade>BM naruto thread Lol
Nothing touches his Tsunade > Nagato thread though
 
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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

we can't really comopare them since we know all or most of tsunades abilities while we only know little on tobirama
 

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Lol are you trippin'? Your saying if someone light your clothes on fire, you would be completely unharmed? Let alone Amaterasu, acknowledged to be the most powerful Fire Ninjutsu in existence, as hot as the sun. Lol.
well despite all that it took a considerable amount of time to go through a samurai's armor
What if Tsunade is bisected and both half burnt? Will she regenerate?

of course she could.and even if she couldn't (although she can base on what she said to the slug) her slug can re-attached any part of her and regenerate her if she needs help.
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

I completely agree

Most people don't aim high enough to decapitate an opponent so tsunade has nothing to worry about for the most part

u left out yugura as a mizukage with his water jutsu being one of the best in the manga

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Tsunade is very fast & durable tobirama hasn't shown anything that will stop her in her tracks or even protect himself
Infact if he does slash her in the same fashion as izuna "he's dead meat " he'd be in too deep she would shatter or rip him apart

Mei, kisame, suigetsu, yugura from what I seen is better/stronger suitonusers
 

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She would simply be rendered useless, but she wouldn't be dead. Also, she'd use her Byakugō to make it so it's one burning body, not two parts. Then she'd need to count on someone else to put out the fire, IDK say Katsuyu, then she could heal her burns. XD

Then someone can kill her when she's rendered useless. Stick a sword in her heart and leave it there and the heart won't be able to fully regenerate.

How does Tsunade's team have to do anything with her battle prowess. All your merely implying is that Tsunade hid behind her team mates. Nothing can be said about Tobirama vs Tsunade. We know next to nothing about Tobirama's Suiton or Jikukan skills. For all we could know, Tobirama could be capable of transporting Tsunade's body to another dimension. But i'd still say Tobirama was better. Tobirama was chosen because Hashirama and the ninja of Konoha acknowledged him to be powerful enough for the Hokage title. Tsunade was merely chosen out of necessity as Jiraiya declined, Kakashi was unmotivated & Danzo as Hokage would have been a disaster. Your telling me a former drunk, who used to travel the Elemental Nations, losing her clan's money in pitiful gambling & getting drunk of her ass because her brother and lover died is better than Tobirama who gave his live to protect his team from the Kinkaku Butai. Who are on par with the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist & The Twelve Guardian Ninja? I believe Tsunade redeemed herself, but Tobirama for me is better.
 

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Re: Tobirama's Hiraishingiri<<<Tsunade; His water styles aren't strong enough

this thread is better than you tsunade>BM naruto thread Lol
your just underestimating the hokage, i guess no one expected kisame to keep up with a BM BEE yet he did, those assumptions of fanboys are failures, he almost killed a perfect jinjuriki who was considered the strongest due to perfect control and Tsunade has the edge of kisame in a battle...... i dont know why you hate Tsunade but you have some serious issues.......
Nothing touches his Tsunade > Nagato thread though

and people will always say NAGATO >Tsunade because he as a rennigan and can use monster rock when not paying close attention to the weakness of his jutsus.
 

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your just underestimating the hokage, i guess no one expected kisame to keep up with a BM BEE yet he did, those assumptions of fanboys are failures, he almost killed a perfect jinjuriki who was considered the strongest due to perfect control and Tsunade has the edge of kisame in a battle...... i dont know why you hate Tsunade but you have some serious issues.......


and people will always say NAGATO >Tsunade because he as a rennigan and can use monster rock when not paying close attention to the weakness of his jutsus.
..This is pointless as always.
 
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