Tobirama's Hiraishin

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No seals needed for Hiraishin, for short distances. I saw a thread saying that Minato teleported Hiruzen, Tobirama, and Naruto, but that was not the case as seen



Please note at Minato not using any hand seals.

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Too broken to be true O.O
 

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Well shit.

The fact he used Hirashingiri without any hand seals backs up this claim.
 

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It seems that Minato's FTG/Hiraishin simply travels a farther distance than Tobirama's.
 

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Er no. Its canon that hiraishin requires seals.

Yes Its tobirama who teleported them the first time. Him saying he was getting them out of here is simple.
He has a seal somewhere else.

What however is still confusing is that with his hiraishin feats why he couldn't teleport his team that time is still a mystery
 

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Also note that just before Minato mentioned he couldn't teleport to Naruto. So it further implies Tobirama.


But what strikes me more is this... Tobirama seemingly teleported to Sasuke (who had to have retreated from his originals position) without any notably places seals (unless he marked Sasuke).


So no hand signs plus no seals?!
 

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so what your saying is tobirama solos?
 

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Exactly. U_U



Without seals maybe.

Yeah. The speed of FTG probably inhances/increases when teleporting to a seal. Minato's FTG is simply more versatile. I really want to see a fight between the two.
 

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Why do your Tobirama threads get more replies than mine.
 

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Yeah. The speed of FTG probably inhances/increases when teleporting to a seal. Minato's FTG is simply more versatile. I really want to see a fight between the two.

You shut your mouth when you talk like that.

so what your saying is tobirama solos?

No, not at all. He dominates then solos.

Why do your Tobirama threads get more replies than mine.

Because, I guess people find my threads better or they like me due to my smexyness.
 

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Er no. Its canon that hiraishin requires seals.

Yes Its tobirama who teleported them the first time. Him saying he was getting them out of here is simple.
He has a seal somewhere else.

What however is still confusing is that with his hiraishin feats why he couldn't teleport his team that time is still a mystery

This sums it up perfectly.
 

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Er no. Its canon that hiraishin requires seals.

Yes Its tobirama who teleported them the first time. Him saying he was getting them out of here is simple.
He has a seal somewhere else.

What however is still confusing is that with his hiraishin feats why he couldn't teleport his team that time is still a mystery

Because it was not 20 master bounty hunters that he had to fight, but it was actually Madara. Prime Hiruzen, Tobirama, and Danzo could have fought 20 high jounin. But Kagami Uchiha was with Tobirama, and if he saw Madara, he might have turned on Tobirama due to the treatment of the Uchiha, along with the whole Uchiha clan. A coup de tat. But, that is just a theory.
 

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Er no. Its canon that hiraishin requires seals.

Yes Its tobirama who teleported them the first time. Him saying he was getting them out of here is simple.
He has a seal somewhere else.

What however is still confusing is that with his hiraishin feats why he couldn't teleport his team that time is still a mystery
But it doesn't explain how he was considering porting to the battlefield without a seal there. Also, we've only seen him place a seal on Minato and Obito, we haven't seen him place any seals anywhere else.
 

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But it doesn't explain how he was considering porting to the battlefield without a seal there. Also, we've only seen him place a seal on Minato and Obito, we haven't seen him place any seals anywhere else.

FTG seals have never gone away, prior too Juubito. Tobirama was sure to have placed many seals around Konoha as a child - man.
 

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FTG seals have never gone away, prior too Juubito. Tobirama was sure to have placed many seals around Konoha as a child - man.
Around Konoha?

Aren't they a few countries away from there? And I doubt he went travelling during the Warring States Period or during the alliance between Senju and Uchiha since he had to make sure the peace would last.
 

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But it doesn't explain how he was considering porting to the battlefield without a seal there. Also, we've only seen him place a seal on Minato and Obito, we haven't seen him place any seals anywhere else.

Yes i understand that. Im not going to sit here and tell you that i know how he teleported near sasuke, because i do not. However from what we know of hiraishin either the main hiraishin or its variations, from Jikūkan Kekkai to Goshun Mawashi all require seals, its based on the principle of the kuchiyose. Short or long distance its still hiraishin where the seals basically act like doors. You go through one and appear through another.

From that even without knowing how he got near sasuke, we could only say he has a seal there as that is rule of hiraishin. That and also because i have yet to see a scan where its been stated that hiraishin for whatever distance doesn;t require a seal, until then ill go with my understanding of the technique.

On a similar note for Tobirama to achieve what he did to Izuna he must have marked the uchiha without him knowing, to achieve the hiraishingiri.




Because it was not 20 master bounty hunters that he had to fight, but it was actually Madara. Prime Hiruzen, Tobirama, and Danzo could have fought 20 high jounin. But Kagami Uchiha was with Tobirama, and if he saw Madara, he might have turned on Tobirama due to the treatment of the Uchiha, along with the whole Uchiha clan. A coup de tat. But, that is just a theory.

That could be. I am banking on him being on low reserves therefore couldn't use hiraishin and teleport himself along with his team. Basically a similar predicament to minato in this chapter.


Btw you guys remember that Tobirama was about to teleport one the jubi dama. That alone states that he has a seal somewhere else. To think he only has a seal on obito and minato when in edo form and has not administered a seal somewhere else when he was alive is difficult to digest
 
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