Tobirama VS Kisame

[Owarij]

Tobirama was senju, who was allrounded in ninjutsu, taijutsu , and genjutsu, Kisame hasn't shown any real resistance to genjutsu .........So he can easily get him with that

 

[Blaze Release]

Tobirama was senju, who was allrounded in ninjutsu, taijutsu , and genjutsu, Kisame hasn't shown any real resistance to genjutsu .........So he can easily get him with that

It was the first that used that genjutsu in the MANGA, not the second. Anyway Tobimara win

 

[Owarij]

It was the first that used that genjutsu in the MANGA, not the second. Anyway Tobimara win

I know it was the first who cast that........But senju were known for there all round ninja capabilities

Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan with a thousand skills"​

 

[Blaze Release]

I know it was the first who cast that........But senju were known for there all round ninja capabilities

Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan with a thousand skills"​

Possible, but that doesnt mean it applies to everybody, tsuande for example is a senju. Doubt she can use genjutsu. Dont give characters powers they havent shown

 

[Owarij]

Possible, but that doesnt mean it applies to everybody, tsuande for example is a senju. Doubt she can use genjutsu. Dont give characters powers they havent shown

Meh, when tsundade was growing up, most the clan were already extinct, the true ones who fought in the time of endless war would have those skills....And I highly doubt The 2nd strongest senju didn't have a genjutsu and his brother was there using A rank ones..... O well to each his own

 

[Blaze Release]

Meh, when tsundade was growing up, most the clan were already extinct, the true ones who fought in the time of endless war would have those skills....And I highly doubt The 2nd strongest senju didn't have a genjutsu and his brother was there using A rank ones..... O well to each his own

What youve said doesnt mean anything. Just because the were knwon for having been able to use all forms of ninja art doesnt mean all of them could. As ive said, we shouldnt give a character powers they havent shown. Same goes for tsunade a senju

 

[Kakashi42]

Tobirama

 

[ShinobiGod]

What youve said doesnt mean anything. Just because the were knwon for having been able to use all forms of ninja art doesnt mean all of them could. As ive said, we shouldnt give a character powers they havent shown. Same goes for tsunade a senju

I agree but I'm sure there's a chart with Tobimara and his genjutsus would be ranked. The caliber of ninja he was you can pretty much say he could.

Kisame can't beat any Hokage. Tobiaru would pull Samedeha from out his arse.

 

[Tartarus]

Kisame, he was feared as having chakra comparable to a biju and him being against a water user only adds to his advantage. All we've seen from Tobirama is that he's a water style master.

 

[Reborn]

I'm going with Tobirama.