[VS] Tobirama vs Itachi. Beautiful match-up.

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Itachi, the Genjutsu expert!

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Tobirama, the Inventor.

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I just want to point out that the character's have full info on each other, Tobirama has two fodder Edos.


Tobirama Countering Itachi's Katon and Suiton

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Itachi has many great Katon techniques such as Great Fireball, Pheonix Sage Fire, and others. He also possesses some Suiton like Water Dragon Bullet and Water Fang Bullet. All of these techniques are countered or counteracted with a simple Water Dragon Bullet from Tobirama, or possibly a Water Encampment Wall if it is needed. But this is a given.


Countering Itachi's genjutsu

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Most of Itachi's genjutsu can be broken with a simple genjutsu surge; called Kai. To use Kai properly, one must have a strong chakra, which is present in Senju. The only genjutsu Tobirama cannot counter with a surge of chakra is Tsukuyomi, in which only an Uchiha by blood with a sharingan can break. Now, since I gave Tobirama info on this, a Bunshin feint would suffice. Some people claim Tobirama can only use two Kage Bunshin due to this scan. But you must keep in mind, Tobirama also had a Kage level barrier up at the time, and SM Hashirama could only make 6 Mokuton Bunshin. Sage Mode Hashirama, not base Hashirama. So it should be clear, that Tobirama can make more than two Kage Bunshin.


Countering Izanami
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Izanami, despite being the biggest ass pull in the series, will result in no more than a draw. Due to Tobirama's superior reflexes and speed, when he senses Itachi coming at him to physically contact him him to activate Izanami. Itachi will get cut open with a Kunai or a sword if he tries doing that to Tobirama, as Tobirama has shown to be quite proficient in Kenjutsu at a young age.


Tobirama's Speed and Reflexes

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I just wanted to point out some speed and reflex feats for spits and giggles. :yay:
This is Tobirama getting caught off guard by Juubito's immense (near instant) speed, and while getting blitz'd, Tobirama thinks of a plan and executes it (with half a body).


This is Tobirama out speeding / out reacting Minato.


Mind you, Minato was in KCM, which greatly increases the users speed, strength and what not.


Countering Amaterasu

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This is actually very simple. As a sensor, Tobirama can sense the build up in Itachi's eye as he is about to use Amaterasu. From there, a Suiton to block the line of sight or FTG would suffice.


Countering Susano'o

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This is the most tricky part to Tobirama's battle. Any Susano'o bar V3 and up can be destroyed with this technique. With more than one edo, this attack would have double the power. The fully armoured Susano'o equipped with Totsuka and Yata is easily dodged by Tobirama. Tobirama can mark a two of his many Kage Bunshin and or Edos and teleport to them. Tobirama can mark the ground and his Kage Bunshin's can do the same, making it easier to move around.


In all, I am saying that Tobirama does not get stomped. I am saying either character can win high diff or extreme diff in these conditions. Just my input. Please point out many mistakes. :nindaime:

 
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Itachi would win this, but it is an interesting match up. :p
 

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I think it is a great match up. I also think either could win. :nindaime:
 

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Quite the effort you put into this, Penguin.

But, I'd just like to say that Susano'o most likely ends Tobirama. The only way he could possibly get away from the devastatingly quick Totsuka Blade is through using FTG is a similar manner as Minato.

Itachi high diff
 

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Quite the effort you put into this, Penguin.

But, I'd just like to say that Susano'o most likely ends Tobirama. The only way he could possibly get away from the devastatingly quick Totsuka Blade is through using FTG is a similar manner as Minato.

Itachi high diff

Thank you. I need to make it look nicer, but am new to this sort of thing. I agree that Itachi can end it with Susano'o + Totsuka slashes, but FTG could be enough to wait Itachi out.

Good thread, either could take this but I'm leaning towards Tobirama u_u

Thanks!
 

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Solo King VS King of Bosses , hard to say hmmmmm
 

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Solo King VS King of Bosses , hard to say hmmmmm

Tobirama's nick name is the Inventor. :|

But agreed on bold.

Some people overrate and underrate these two characters too a drastic extreme, and I am trying to figure out where they do belong without too much fanboyism.


nice job
very good arguments
however I've got to disagree
Itachi takes this with mid diff

Too each his own I guess, but thanks.
 

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Good thread man. Its a lot closer than some people think.
 

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lmao
Tobirama would have hard time against Orochimaru who's several tiers below Itachi
anyway you're a typical Minato fanboy anti-Itachi bandwagoner
it's not that surprising that you don't use much logic

The Irony in this one killed me.
 

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lmao
Tobirama would have hard time against Orochimaru who's several tiers below Itachi
anyway you're a typical Minato fanboy anti-Itachi bandwagoner
it's not that surprising that you don't use much logic
>.> You and your Orochimaru underestimating... He's not THAT low!

Sadly, Tobirama beats Orochimaru mid diff without Edo's. Tobirama has one of the most inb4 rigged combo's there are

@Penguin Whatev's >.>
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

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>.> You and your Orochimaru underestimating... He's not THAT low!

Sadly, Tobirama beats Orochimaru mid diff without Edo's. Tobirama has one of the most inb4 rigged combo's there are

@Penguin Whatev's >.>

call me when he can fodderize Oro no diff and beat Kabuto without killing him (like a certain person did)
 

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Oh dear Tobirama [see what I did there?] this is going to turn into a flame fest. :|
 
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