Tobirama Space Time Ninjutsu?

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He didnt have to learn it from anyone....bcause by that logic tobirama had to learn it from someone...he developed s/t and minato developed his own version also
 

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A hard jutsu like that? I don't think so, he had to at least watch something similar to it (just like rasengan from TBB) and it will be still too difficult to master.
Minato was considered a genius seen once a decade it best so I would say he most likely did invent it.
 

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A hard jutsu like that? I don't think so, he had to at least watch something similar to it (just like rasengan from TBB) and it will be still too difficult to master.
? He was praised as a "genius above all others". You don't have to learn something from someone else just because it's hard. For example, it's likely that Fukasaku and shima invented Sage Mode considering they're several hundred years old, and despite its great difficulty, it doesn't mean they necessarily ahd to learn it from someone. Ninja can create things themselves.
It's not like there aren't other S/T techniques, with the simplest being Kuchiyose.


Anyway, Minato knew 2 S-rank techniques and was in the process of making a 3rd. Heck, I have no doubt he created FTG himself considering it was stated he did...
 

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he may have written it on those scrolls wic could have been used by minato later when he became hokage i think
Minato already knew S/T techniques years before he became Hokage. And as the series has shown, unless you're Hokage, you can't just access other belongings and scroll left by the past Hokage.


He was dead when Minato started training
He was dead decades before Minato was even born.
 

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? He was praised as a "genius above all others". You don't have to learn something from someone else just because it's hard. For example, it's likely that Fukasaku and shima invented Sage Mode considering they're several hundred years old, and despite its great difficulty, it doesn't mean they necessarily ahd to learn it from someone. Ninja can create things themselves.
It's not like there aren't other S/T techniques, with the simplest being Kuchiyose.


Anyway, Minato knew 2 S-rank techniques and was in the process of making a 3rd. Heck, I have no doubt he created FTG himself considering it was stated he did...
My theory is: Minato tooked info from Tobirama's, or someone like Hanzo, S/T ninjutsu (which wasn't all that OP as Minato's) and added the fuinjutsu thing he just learned from the Uzumakis. So we had FTG.
 

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My theory is: Minato tooked info from Tobirama's, or someone like Hanzo, S/T ninjutsu (which wasn't all that OP as Minato's) and added the fuinjutsu thing he just learned from the Uzumakis. So we had FTG.
Hanzo doesn't use s/t jutsu, he uses the body flicker jutsu which is just high speed movement.
 

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Minato already knew S/T techniques years before he became Hokage. And as the series has shown, unless you're Hokage, you can't just access other belongings and scroll left by the past Hokage.
Well Naruto, an academy studient, took Hashi's scroll which was guarded by chuunins (Facepalm). Orochimaru, a sannin, readed the forbidden jutsus skill of Konoha. So it's not that unlikely
 

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Well Naruto, an academy studient, took Hashi's scroll which was guarded by chuunins (Facepalm). Orochimaru, a sannin, readed the forbidden jutsus skill of Konoha. So it's not that unlikely
No he didn't? Neither did Oro. Oro developed his Immortality techniques by himself, he didn't learn it from a scroll. That only happened in the anime and contradicts what the 3rd databook says how Orochimaru obtained them, which was through years of human experimentation.
You don't seem to get it. You can't just go and take Hokage scrolls if you're not the Hokage. That's why Oro couldn't just go and take Hashirama's Scroll of Seals and wanted to become Hokage to get it.
And before you say it, no, Minato knew S/T techniques years before he became Hokage, so he didn't get it from that scroll.

I don't know why people insist on saying he learned it from someone else when it was already said to have been completely made by him... :O
 

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No he didn't? Neither did Oro. Oro developed his Immortality techniques by himself, he didn't learn it from a scroll. That only happened in the anime and contradicts what the 3rd databook says how Orochimaru obtained them, which was through years of human experimentation.
You don't seem to get it. You can't just go and take Hokage scrolls if you're not the Hokage. That's why Oro couldn't just go and take Hashirama's Scroll of Seals and wanted to become Hokage to get it.
And before you say it, no, Minato knew S/T techniques years before he became Hokage, so he didn't get it from that scroll.

I don't know why people insist on saying he learned it from someone else when it was already said to have been completely made by him... :O
I'm still saying Naruto tooked a forbidden scroll, things aren't that serious in Konoha xd.
I'm still convinced that Minato taked at least a second hand knowledge of Tobirama's S/T, but it's okay if you think the same.
 

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The Second Hokage, Tobimara, developed his own version of the Space/Time Jutsu. Using they knowledge and methods he knows of developing the Jutsu, he must have written the Jutsu in the secret scrolls left for former Hokages.

Naruto holding the Forbidden Scroll


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Side Note: Maybe a "Filler," but couldn't find the Manga Chapter were this was shown.

Orochimaru was only able to gather information from the Hokages "Hidden" room, which gave details of other Jutsu instead of Jutsu created by the Hokage themselves. These is why he probably doesn't know of the Space/Time Technique and of Kyuubi/Naruto's Seal.
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Theory/Speculation: Not accurate

Minato must have looked through the Forbidden Scroll to learn and develop a new Jutsu. He must have stumbled onto Tobimara Space/Time Technique. He probably found that the requirements for the Jutsu were not to his liking so he fit them to his style of combat. Tobimara style was probably a water type, Space/Time User because of his experience and talents of manipulating Suiton. Minato maybe not have Suiton nature so he use the Fuuninjutsu (Sealing Techniques) knowledge given to him by Mito and incorporated them into his very on Space/Time technique called FTG.
 
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