Tobirama Senju

Top 10?

  • Yes

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    Votes: 13 30.2%
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    Votes: 5 11.6%

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USSJ Future Trunks

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Those two shinobi had the Sage's weapons. It is a feat he escaped from that ambush.
its heavily implied they spared his life because he wasnt worth the effort.
evidence 1: ginkaku hates tobirama and basically calls him weak
evidence 2: shikamaru and ginkaku both confirm the brothers defeated tobirama. tobirama survived in much the same way that sakura survived all her encounters with top tier villains. someone else rescued him/he wasnt worth it
 

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its heavily implied they spared his life because he wasnt worth the effort.
evidence 1: ginkaku hates tobirama and basically calls him weak
evidence 2: shikamaru and ginkaku both confirm the brothers defeated tobirama. tobirama survived in much the same way that sakura survived all her encounters with top tier villains. someone else rescued him/he wasnt worth it

Wait, Wait, Wait. You're comparing 2 Ninja to Tobirama? You say they deserve top-tier?

By that logic, Tobirama should be on rank with Madara as him and Hashirama would be a team and beat him. Smh.

If Ginkaku or Kinkaku beat Tobirama ALONE then you have an argument. *_*
 

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He likely will be.

Senju Body.
Eats Sharingans.
Strong Sensor.
Suiton Master.
Flying Thunder God.
Impure World Resurrection.

Just based on the little bit we know, he's already top 10. Hell, he invented two of the most powerful jutsus in the series.
loled at the bolded part
by current feats he loses to
Hashirma
Madara
Itachi
Kabuto
Pain
Juubi
Kyuubi
Obito
Sasuke
Shisui / Danzou (KA one shots)
also it was never stated that he invented FTG and his ET was weaker than Oro's part1 ET which brought them back at less than 20%
 

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I'd say yes, however i doubt he would be more than 8 or 9.
 

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he still lost to the silver gold bro's Hashi and Madara would have ko the both of them
 

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its heavily implied they spared his life because he wasnt worth the effort.
evidence 1: ginkaku hates tobirama and basically calls him weak
evidence 2: shikamaru and ginkaku both confirm the brothers defeated tobirama. tobirama survived in much the same way that sakura survived all her encounters with top tier villains. someone else rescued him/he wasnt worth it

Show me scans and I will believe it.
 

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Testament to his power: had free will while being restricted by Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, until Oro strengthened the restraint using Hashi's cells.
 

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Testament to his power: had free will while being restricted by Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, until Oro strengthened the restraint using Hashi's cells.

That just proves he is better than Hiruzen, since Hiruzen has knowledge on Edo Tensei. Minato has no knowledge, so how would he know how to fight it? Not really a feat.
 

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he still lost to the silver gold bro's Hashi and Madara would have ko the both of them
It's said that they left him on the verge of death , but that does not mean he lost . Maybe he killed them both in battle.
 

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loled at the bolded part
by current feats he loses to
Hashirma
Madara
Itachi
Kabuto
Pain
Juubi
Kyuubi
Obito
Sasuke
Shisui / Danzou (KA one shots)
also it was never stated that he invented FTG and his ET was weaker than Oro's part1 ET which brought them back at less than 20%

How does he lose to Itachi or Sasuke? Hell, he beat MS Izuna, Madara's rival aside from Hashirama. I also don't think it counts adding Bijuus.

Less than 20%????! What retarded fanfiction are you reading?!!! He used Edo Tensei to wipe battlefields clean, how the hell does he do that with useless fodders???
 
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How does he lose to Itachi or Sasuke? Hell, he beat MS Izuna, Madara's rival aside from Hashirama
izuna was worthless and featless. never was it ever said he was madara's rival when he clearly looked up to and loved his brother too much to try and surpass him

his ET was weaker than Oro's part1 ET which brought them back at less than 20%
how do you know? oh right you value your own bullshit fanfiction over the manga. show me where its stated they were "less than 20%" wait you cant. his own ET was even weaker than orochimaru's and i doubt he'd be that famous for summoning utter fodder

Testament to his power
testament to his power. he couldnt beat two pseudo jins with 2nd raikages help

Show me scans and I will believe it.
i already have. youve chosen to ignore them

If Ginkaku or Kinkaku beat Tobirama ALONE then you have an argument
i have an argument regardless of your dumb replies. kin and gin arent good at all by themselves. they arent top 10 even together. tobirama lost with help from his allies
 

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Yes, definitely. xd
 

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How does he lose to Itachi or Sasuke? Hell, he beat MS Izuna, Madara's rival aside from Hashirama.
Amaterasu
Genjutsu
I also don't think it counts adding Bijuus.
feel free to replace them with Naruto / So6P
Less than 20%????! What retarded fanfiction are you reading?!!! He used Edo Tensei to wipe battlefields clean, how the hell does he do that with useless fodders???
Orochimaru improved Tobirama's ET (manga fact)
and he wasn't able to bring back Hashirama and Tobirama at NEAR full power
Oro's current ET >= Kabuto's ET >>>>>> Orochimaru's part1 ET > Tobirama's ET

I'm not saying Tobirama is weak he's just not top 10 imo it's just a personal opinion if he proves otherwise I won't disagree ofc Lol
 

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That just proves he is better than Hiruzen, since Hiruzen has knowledge on Edo Tensei. Minato has no knowledge, so how would he know how to fight it? Not really a feat.
You don't need to have knowledge on Edo Tensei to have free will (unless you escape it using 'Release'), it was the fact Tobirama was able to have free will due to extraordinary chakra reserves and overpower the restraints; Tobi purposely says that bringing them back to life with almost full power was a mistake for Orochimaru. This is the reason why the restraints don't work on Hashirama cause his reserves > Tobirama's. The only reason why Orochimaru can control Tobi is due to Oro using Hashi's cells to strengthen the restraint.
 

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You don't need to have knowledge on Edo Tensei to have free will (unless you escape it using 'Release'), it was the fact Tobirama was able to have free will due to extraordinary chakra reserves and overpower the restraints; Tobi purposely says that bringing them back to life with almost full power was a mistake for Orochimaru. This is the reason why the restraints don't work on Hashirama cause his reserves > Tobirama's. The only reason why Orochimaru can control Tobi is due to Oro using Hashi's cells to strengthen the restraint.

He tried getting out because he created the technique and knew the ins and outs. If you say anything otherwise; you are wrong.
 
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