Tobirama Senju vs 7 Swordsmen of the Mist

[Hoshigaki Saan]

I am actually quite relaxed Hoshigaki-Saan! I feel Hoshigaki-Saan has gone too long without a thread?



Two psudeo Jins that were more complete than Naruto whilst also having the tools of the Sage don't have feats? Kakuzu doesn't have feats?

Hoshigaki-saan, what do you have in mind?

But you're half-man half-fish.

It seems pretty cool to refer to yourself in 3rd person.

Hoshigaki-saan must refer to Hoshigaki-san's self in the third person, Hoshigaki-san doesn't want to loose Hoshigaki-saan's identity.

 

[Gold Lightning]

20 elite jounin > Sword dudes. u.u

And you act as if Tobirama cannot make bunshins. He said making two was pathetic. There is no way he is losing this if he can make up to 4-6 bunshins.

zabuza could make 2 clones at least, equalling 3. Imagine all of them mcan do this which I'm sure they can since Kisame had this feat too.

 

[Klad]

7 are too much for Tobirama .

 

[Touken]

Hoshigaki-saan must refer to Hoshigaki-san's self in the third person, Hoshigaki-san doesn't want to loose Hoshigaki-saan's identity.

Looks like you need some of Itachi's special treatment.

 

[Penguin]

zabuza could make 2 clones at least, equalling 3. Imagine all of them mcan do this which I'm sure they can since Kisame had this feat too.

You cannot give other members of an organization feats of a single member. I don't know why the OP put Rama against featless people.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Except that there's 13 less people here Lol

Tobirama wins.

He also had a Hokage level Hiruzen on his side, along with Danzo, Kagami Uchicha - I repeat UCHIHA!!!, Homura, Koharu and Torifu Akimichi. All I assume were Chunin/Jonin level. Yet he didn't think they'd all survive even with his help.

Don't see him taking down the swordsman based on his past experience with group ninja

 

[Gold Lightning]

You cannot give other members of an organization feats of a single member. I don't know why the OP put Rama against featless people.

True that don't have much feats. What we do know is that they are elites and formidable opponents and masters with their swords. Plus we know what each of their swords can do.

The Kinkaku Squad is also completely featless too but somehow took out the 2nd Hokage.

 

[Narutobirama]

20 elite jounin > Sword dudes. u.u

And you act as if Tobirama cannot make bunshins. He said making two was pathetic. There is no way he is losing this if he can make up to 4-6 bunshins.

Considering the fact that Hashirama could only make a few more than Tobirama, it is very likely he could make many Kage Bunshin while at full power. After all, Madara easily used 25 Mokuton Bunshin. Obviously, Hashirama when not using the barrier should be able to create at least 25 Mokuton Bunshin. Not counting that Madara only wanted the right ratio between him and 5 Kage, so he could probably create more Mokuton Bunshin. And Hashirama is supposed to have more chakra.

And they are not even at their full power because they are revived with Edo Tensei.

 

[Touken]

He also had a Hokage level Hiruzen on his side, along with Danzo, Kagami Uchicha - I repeat UCHIHA!!!, Homura, Koharu and Torifu Akimichi. All I assume were Chunin/Jonin level. Yet he didn't think they'd all survive even with his help.

Don't see him taking down the swordsman based on his past experience with group ninja

And you somehow still believe the 7 Swordsmen even compare to the Kinkaku Squad? Based off hype, the Kinkaku Squad are far superior, while Kakashi alone was having no problems dealing with the 7 Swordsmen (IIRC).

 

[Gold Lightning]

And you somehow still believe the 7 Swordsmen even compare to the Kinkaku Squad? Based off hype, the Kinkaku Squad are far superior, while Kakashi alone was having no problems dealing with the 7 Swordsmen (IIRC).

Kakashi had Gai, Lee, Sakura and a whole squadron of ninja; he wasn't even close to alone -_-. Kakashi still got cut up by Zabuza, doesn't mean he's weak, but Haku caught him off guard. Fighting more than one is always difficult, by hype the 7 swordsman are above the Kinkaku squad; we don't much about them but if kishi doesn't even feel the need to go into detail about them or even mention their names then I don't even think he sees them as all that special. They're never even talked about by other ninja.

 

[Narutobirama]

Kakashi had Gai, Lee, Sakura and a whole squadron of ninja; he wasn't even close to alone -_-. Kakashi still got cut up by Zabuza, doesn't mean he's weak, but Haku caught him off guard. Fighting more than one is always difficult, by hype the 7 swordsman are above the Kinkaku squad; we don't much about them but if kishi doesn't even feel the need to go into detail about them or even mention their names then I don't even think he sees them as all that special. They're never even talked about by other ninja.

Some people assume that Kinkaku team was a team that did not have Kinkaku and Ginkaku. They say that by then they already left Kumogakure. But they still could've been in team. Or the entire team left Kumogakure lead by Kinkaku. If there wasn't Kinkaku anymore, they could've changed their name.

Also, Seven Swordsmen are Jonin as well. That means 7 Elite Jonin, if we assume all were elite. If Kinkaku team had Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and two of them most likely were there, that means 2 Kage level and 18 Elite Jonin. And there is a possibility Kakuzu was there, which would make it 3 Kage level Shinobi and 17 Elite Jonin. And there are other possibilities as well.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Some people assume that Kinkaku team was a team that did not have Kinkaku and Ginkaku. They say that by then they already left Kumogakure. But they still could've been in team. Or the entire team left Kumogakure lead by Kinkaku. If there wasn't Kinkaku anymore, they could've changed their name.

Also, Seven Swordsmen are Jonin as well. That means 7 Elite Jonin, if we assume all were elite. If Kinkaku team had Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and two of them most likely were there, that means 2 Kage level and 18 Elite Jonin. And there is a possibility Kakuzu was there, which would make it 3 Kage level Shinobi and 17 Elite Jonin. And there are other possibilities as well.

Maybe, maybe not. All just speculation in the end. From what has been said, I don't think Kin/Gin were in the squad that killed Tobirama not Kakuzu.

 

[Narutobirama]

Maybe, maybe not. All just speculation in the end. From what has been said, I don't think Kin/Gin were in the squad that killed Tobirama not Kakuzu.

Yes but it is reasonable to assume there was Kinkaku in Kinkaku Team. Usually teams are named after leader. There would be no reason to call it Kinkaku Team if he was not in their team.

And even if he weren't, that would mean 20 Elite Jonin which is still more than 7 Swordsmen.

 

[TheLastSensei]

Tobirama could win. It is known that like minato, he can touch the ground and know who's around. He's a water style master, know many techniques, have a technique similar to the ftg, and tobirama created many, many forbidden jutsu. Tobirama basically invented sliced bread in naruto. Also, when he was first brought to life by orochimaru, he almost broke out and nearly made the cave collapse on them all. That's why orochimaru increased the jutsu strength temporarily.

 

[sharingansennin]

20 elite jounin > Sword dudes. u.u

And you act as if Tobirama cannot make bunshins. He said making two was pathetic. There is no way he is losing this if he can make up to 4-6 bunshins.

your tobirama nuthugging is astounding you're really talking crap about the swordsmen when you put featless, UNNAMED ninja above them just to try to justify Tobirama being stronger. You're a horrible fan, want to know a real fan who doesn't overrate his favorite Shaneayy for something, the Zabuza fan he uses logic and fact and will admit he'd lose.

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As Guy himself says they are above a normal jounin. 7 Elite Jonin. Take into account Kakashi Hatake barely beat Zabuza Momochi, 1 swordsmen are you really stupid enough to say Tobirama could defeat 7 guys around Kakashi's level?

 

[WolfHaley]

So many pathetic arguments. Why does a fictional character intimidate these people so much?

 

[Penguin]

your tobirama nuthugging is astounding you're really talking crap about the swordsmen when you put featless, UNNAMED ninja above them just to try to justify Tobirama being stronger. You're a horrible fan, want to know a real fan who doesn't overrate his favorite Shaneayy for something, the Zabuza fan he uses logic and fact and will admit he'd lose.

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As Guy himself says they are above a normal jounin. 7 Elite Jonin. Take into account Kakashi Hatake barely beat Zabuza Momochi, 1 swordsmen are you really stupid enough to say Tobirama could defeat 7 guys around Kakashi's level?

Your whole post is utter bullshit. If you think seven featless jounin can take down Tobirama, when Kin and Gin couldn't even kill him as they snuck up on him, then wow. Kakashi part one <<<<<<<<<<<< Tobirama. Tobirama with only taijutsu and kenjutsu can merk Kakashi part one. Please prove me wrong.

As for the bashing me part, I could care less of what you think of me. If you have a problem then hop off this **** and quit stalking my posts.

 

[sharingansennin]

Your whole post is utter bullshit. If you think seven featless jounin can take down Tobirama, when Kin and Gin couldn't even kill him as they snuck up on him, then wow. Kakashi part one <<<<<<<<<<<< Tobirama. Tobirama with only taijutsu and kenjutsu can merk Kakashi part one. Please prove me wrong.

As for the bashing me part, I could care less of what you think of me. If you have a problem then hop off this **** and quit stalking my posts.

can he merk 7 kakashi level ninja with no intel and them having full intel. The 7 swordsmen are feared for a reason how is he going to dodge them all, he didn't want to f with the Gin-Kin squad Darui beat the Gin/Kin bros with ZERO intel effortlessly so their not that special and he's about part 1 kakashi level.

 

[WolfHaley]

Lol... Kakashi level.

 

[Draegod]

Your whole post is utter bullshit. If you think seven featless jounin can take down Tobirama, when Kin and Gin couldn't even kill him as they snuck up on him, then wow. Kakashi part one <<<<<<<<<<<< Tobirama. Tobirama with only taijutsu and kenjutsu can merk Kakashi part one. Please prove me wrong.

As for the bashing me part, I could care less of what you think of me. If you have a problem then hop off this **** and quit stalking my posts.

DIdn't sneak up on him, don't know where you got that from. Plus the fact it was 2 vs 2 and a village. Not only did Tobirama get raped, The Raikage possibly died as well. While they Lived To know that Tobirama was killed later on.

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