Tobirama said his shunshin was inferior to Minato's?

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I mentioned that Tobirama could use his water style and FTG together once, I think around 7 months ago?
Most people said it wasn't possibly and they also gave reasonable facts but I forgot what they said >.>

And Madara wasn't experienced with fighting anyone with the type of FTG that Minato has.
Tobirama used some different technique against Izuna because he was able to wound him.

Unlike the regular FTG where you just teleport to something by entering a different dimension and having another dimension pop up somewhere else and come back, Tobirama did something else, otherwise Izuna wouldn't of been wounded.

It was most likely simply some high-speed attack, and it's not too unbelievable because Tobirama was in his prime and he was hailed as the fastest shinobi of his time.

And Tobirama couldn't teleport the alliance out of the barrier because he wasn't connected to them unlike Naruto and Minato were.

Minato himself explained that FTG works by him being able to teleport to wherever his chakra is or where his is connected too. Tobirama's water jutsu is made from his chakra so he can teleport to it. Sasuke's Kirin is made from actual Lightning, thus it cannot be absorbed and is different than chakra based lightning.

Minato's FTG is the same as Tobirama's, you instantly appear to where your mark or chakra is, Minato threw his kunai around the battle field the moment he first got to the war and teleported Tobirama and Hiruzen to their spot to preform the barrier seal on the Juubi, Madara was doing nothing but sitting down and watch since Hashirama said he's deal with him later so he already saw that Minato uses FTG with his Kunais and can see the Kunia be thrown at his feet so using his sensory ability and his Rinnegan, he can react much greater since he knows what to expect much like how Naruto dodged the 3rd Raikage's attack in SM.

FTG doesn't go to another dimension, that's Kamui. FTG is you go to their mark or chakra from where you are instantly, Minato and Tobirama were never shown to go to another dimension. Tobirama can mark his sword, throw it, FTG to it and carry out his attack. Tobirama said he cant teleport everyone when he wanted to help teleport ninjas from danger against the god tree. He was using Minato as a medium to tap into his chakra and teleport a few ninjas at a time since he doesn't have the skills to do is like Minato which is why he said he can't teleport everyone like Minato.

Having more chakra doesn't mean you can accomplish a feat, you need the skills to do so. Jiraiya has more chakra than base Naruto yet is Jiraiya more skilled with Rasengan and Shadow clones than Naruto who created much stronger Rasengans which are much high level chakra control? No, it's the skill. The next generation surpasses the last, this is said in Naruto since part 1.
 

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Your whole argument is you comparing Hiraishin to other jutsu that require skill, whereas Hiraishin requires no skill whatsoever to use. It's the simplest technique to use and it's been shown before that with Hiraishin the only factor that plays a part in teleporting large masses is the amount of chakra required. There's nothing in the manga that even suggests you need so called "skills" to use Hiraishin, the only complicated part about it is creating your own Hiraishin seal. Hashirama's chakra well exceeds that of Tobirama's, and again, Tobirama's chakra reserves are outclassed by Kyuubi hosts. It's extremely simple. I'm on my phone atm so I can't post a full counter, if you wanna carry this on then we'll take it to VMs.
 

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Minato himself explained that FTG works by him being able to teleport to wherever his chakra is or where his is connected too. Tobirama's water jutsu is made from his chakra so he can teleport to it. Sasuke's Kirin is made from actual Lightning, thus it cannot be absorbed and is different than chakra based lightning.

Minato's FTG is the same as Tobirama's, you instantly appear to where your mark or chakra is, Minato threw his kunai around the battle field the moment he first got to the war and teleported Tobirama and Hiruzen to their spot to preform the barrier seal on the Juubi, Madara was doing nothing but sitting down and watch since Hashirama said he's deal with him later so he already saw that Minato uses FTG with his Kunais and can see the Kunia be thrown at his feet so using his sensory ability and his Rinnegan, he can react much greater since he knows what to expect much like how Naruto dodged the 3rd Raikage's attack in SM.

FTG doesn't go to another dimension, that's Kamui. FTG is you go to their mark or chakra from where you are instantly, Minato and Tobirama were never shown to go to another dimension. Tobirama can mark his sword, throw it, FTG to it and carry out his attack. Tobirama said he cant teleport everyone when he wanted to help teleport ninjas from danger against the god tree. He was using Minato as a medium to tap into his chakra and teleport a few ninjas at a time since he doesn't have the skills to do is like Minato which is why he said he can't teleport everyone like Minato.

Having more chakra doesn't mean you can accomplish a feat, you need the skills to do so. Jiraiya has more chakra than base Naruto yet is Jiraiya more skilled with Rasengan and Shadow clones than Naruto who created much stronger Rasengans which are much high level chakra control? No, it's the skill. The next generation surpasses the last, this is said in Naruto since part 1.

Minato could only teleport to pure chakra, which was Kurama's chakra, it wasn't some type of jutsu.
This is the the only logical explanation because if this wasn't the case Minato and Tobirama would've done it long long ago.

FTG has been explained as being sent from one dimension to another and from that dimension to the other location, but it's instantaneous, unlike Kamui you can't lounge in it.
And your explanation of FTG Slash is faulty.
If he truly threw his sword Izuna would've easily evaded it, it was some type of high speed movement that he used otherwise Izuna wouldn't even be scathed.

And I never mentioned anything about Tobirama not being able to teleport the people because he didn't have enough chakra, I said he wasn't connected to them.
Tobirama never mentioned that he would be able to teleport a few shinobi through Minato during those 4 Juubidamas, he simply said he can only teleport a few Juubidamas away at max.

And Naruto is more skilled at Shadow Clones than everyone else for 1 reason, and 1 reason only, he has more chakra.
That's why he can use them and still fight, any other people would put a large strain on their chakra reserves leaving each individual clone and the original with little chakra to use.
 
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