Tobirama said his shunshin was inferior to Minato's?

[Demonic.]

People say the only reason Minato is fast is because of FTG. They say Minato has no shunshin speed, but didn't Tobirama's statement prove otherwise, that he's also really fast outside of FTG? Your thoughts are appreciated.

 

[Six Paths]

Flying Thunder God is the same speed, but what changes is the speed someone can use flying thunder god, so the reflexes, the speed of the chakra ect... Minato was simply proven better in that particular skill then Tobirama.

 

[a banned cartoon]

People say the only reason Minato is fast is because of FTG. They say Minato has no shunshin speed, but didn't Tobirama's statement prove otherwise, that he's also really fast outside of FTG? Your thoughts are appreciated.

Hashirama also stated last episode that Tobirama has better sensory skills, or maybe it was Tobirama who said it. Either way, I just thought you should know.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Minato's Footspeed is also very fast.Just look:-

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[a banned cartoon]

Flying Thunder God is the same speed, but what changes is the speed someone can use flying thunder god, so the reflexes, the speed of the chakra ect... Minato was simply proven better in that particular skill then Tobirama.

The reason FTG was a little faster is because, Minato thought of the little step of adding the marking to his kunai. A little extra something that you would've thought Tobirama would've been smart enough to think of. Especially since he seems to be intellectually superior to Minato.

 

[Tera Path]

Minato's FTG is almost the same as Tobirama's FTG.

The reason that Minato was said to have better FTG was because he can place seals, but Tobirama copied that from Minato and he can do the same.
But Tobirama also has something special with FTG as to when Hashirama said to him ''Prepare to fly'' or something like that, most likely something without seals.
But then again Minato can use a FTG S/T barrier and Tobirama can't.

I say they're equal with FTG.

But Minato has faster reflexes, and that helps with FTG because if he notices it sooner he can use FTG sooner, so technically he is faster than Tobirama.
Not to mention, Minato's Body Flicker is better than Tobirama's, he has better foot speed and reflexes too.

 

[Touken]

Minato's Shunshin speed is actually really quick as the above scans prove. Probably in the top 5 barring the demi-gods we've been seeing lately.

 

[Xāvî1]

The inventor said it himself so minato > tobirama in FTG

 

[Gold Lightning]

Surprisingly, there are still many people who think Minato isn't fast without FTG which is sad to be honest. All you have to do is watch the Birth of Naruto episodes to know how fast he is on foot.

The characters with the best foot speed/body flicker are Minato, Ay, Tobirama, Shisui etc obviously I don't need to mention the overpowered Demi God characters, although Sasuke had blistering speed before all his major power ups so he gets a mention, third Raikage as well.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Minato's FTG is almost the same as Tobirama's FTG.

The reason that Minato was said to have better FTG was because he can place seals, but Tobirama copied that from Minato and he can do the same.
But Tobirama also has something special with FTG as to when Hashirama said to him ''Prepare to fly'' or something like that, most likely something without seals.
But then again Minato can use a FTG S/T barrier and Tobirama can't.

I say they're equal with FTG.

But Minato has faster reflexes, and that helps with FTG because if he notices it sooner he can use FTG sooner, so technically he is faster than Tobirama.
Not to mention, Minato's Body Flicker is better than Tobirama's, he has better foot speed and reflexes too.

Minato's skill and use of FTG are superior than Tobirama's over all, Minato is capable of FTG-ing everyone in the alliance at once while Tobirama stated that he couldn't do that but that he can still ftg ninjas on the field by using Minato as a Medium. Tobirama also marked his weapons, Madara was use to fighting a FTG user when Tobirama had the kunai marked while he was fighting him and said Tobirama did that against Izuna if I remember right.

I do think Tobirama can use it better if he fill the area with his water jutsu since he can FTG whatever his chakra touches and his jutsus are made from his chakra. Therefore he can FTG in a much wider area and leaves it near impossible to guess where he would FTG to.

People say the only reason Minato is fast is because of FTG. They say Minato has no shunshin speed, but didn't Tobirama's statement prove otherwise, that he's also really fast outside of FTG? Your thoughts are appreciated.

Minato showed incredible speed in Kakashi Gaiden as well. He was by Obito and Rin one second, sensed Kakashi was in trouble then was automatically at Kakashi to save him and marked the enemy before returning to Obito and Rin. Kakashi, a jounin, took off at full speed which is required for his chidori and was a good distance from Minato and the others and Minato got there in like a second. Minato did give Kakashi a Kunia prior to that but he didn't use FTG at that time since the ninja commented on Minato's movement and when Minato returned Kakashi by Obito and Rin, he drops his bag and appears to the ninja he marked before the bag hits the floor and Rin commented on Minato's FTG being fast.

I find it funny when people comment on Edo Minato's speed when it's manga fact that Alive Minato>edo Minato in term of speed and overall stats. Madara showed greated speed than edo Madara after he was revived for example. He also told Tobirama how he (Tobirama) was once hailed the fastest shinobi and how he and Hashirama can't use their "true power" since Edo's aren't at full power. Only person close to Minato's speed is Naruto, his KM and BM speed was compared to Minato's speed expect Naruto have little training in his speed and only used it about 5x in KM and BM.

 

[Turson]

No, Minato has very fast Shunshin (do not cufuse with teleportation), he wasnt nearly as fast as recent superpowers like Kaguya, Madara, Naruto or Sasuke, but he was still very fast.

 

[Vapid]

He pretty much said that Minato > himself, in speed.

 

[Touken]

Minato's skill and use of FTG are superior than Tobirama's over all, Minato is capable of FTG-ing everyone in the alliance at once while Tobirama stated that he couldn't do that but that he can still ftg ninjas on the field by using Minato as a Medium. Tobirama also marked his weapons, Madara was use to fighting a FTG user when Tobirama had the kunai marked while he was fighting him and said Tobirama did that against Izuna if I remember right.

Minato was only capable of doing that due to superior chakra reserves granted by being Kurama's host. Their skill in using Hiraishin is the same while not including Space-Time Barrier.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Minato was only capable of doing that due to superior chakra reserves granted by being Kurama's host. Their skill in using Hiraishin is the same while not including Space-Time Barrier.

Tobirama has huge chakra reserves but that didn't help him teleport people, Tobirama simply said he can't teleport large amount of people like Minato can. He said that to base Minato, if it was truly due to Kurama's chakra then Tobirama would had said I might not have the chakra levels as a Jinchuuriki like you or something to that effect

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[WolfHaley]

^its established fact KCM makes you faster :tard.

 

[Touken]

Tobirama has huge chakra reserves but that didn't help him teleport people, Tobirama simply said he can't teleport large amount of people like Minato can. He said that to base Minato, if it was truly due to Kurama's chakra then Tobirama would had said I might not have the chakra levels as a Jinchuuriki like you or something to that effect

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Of course Minato couldn't teleport the entire SA in base. He was panting even as Kurama's host, and Tobirama's reserves don't come close to a Kyuubi host. That Minato was still Kurama's host, he was just in his base state. Not to mention the fact that Tobirama didn't know Minato wasn't a host while he was alive, so he had no reason to state something like that when you consider that in Tobirama's point of view Minato could have been a host for his entire life, but even still, what Tobirama didn't say is irrelevant.

 

[Demonic.]

^its established fact KCM makes you faster :tard.

Minato didn't even use KCM when Tobirama said his shunshin was inferior lol... He unlocked it later

 

[Tera Path]

Minato's skill and use of FTG are superior than Tobirama's over all, Minato is capable of FTG-ing everyone in the alliance at once while Tobirama stated that he couldn't do that but that he can still ftg ninjas on the field by using Minato as a Medium. Tobirama also marked his weapons, Madara was use to fighting a FTG user when Tobirama had the kunai marked while he was fighting him and said Tobirama did that against Izuna if I remember right.

I do think Tobirama can use it better if he fill the area with his water jutsu since he can FTG whatever his chakra touches and his jutsus are made from his chakra. Therefore he can FTG in a much wider area and leaves it near impossible to guess where he would FTG to.

I mentioned that Tobirama could use his water style and FTG together once, I think around 7 months ago?
Most people said it wasn't possibly and they also gave reasonable facts but I forgot what they said >.>

And Madara wasn't experienced with fighting anyone with the type of FTG that Minato has.
Tobirama used some different technique against Izuna because he was able to wound him.

Unlike the regular FTG where you just teleport to something by entering a different dimension and having another dimension pop up somewhere else and come back, Tobirama did something else, otherwise Izuna wouldn't of been wounded.

It was most likely simply some high-speed attack, and it's not too unbelievable because Tobirama was in his prime and he was hailed as the fastest shinobi of his time.

And Tobirama couldn't teleport the alliance out of the barrier because he wasn't connected to them unlike Naruto and Minato were.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Of course Minato couldn't teleport the entire SA in base. He was panting even as Kurama's host, and Tobirama's reserves don't come close to a Kyuubi host. That Minato was still Kurama's host, he was just in his base state. Not to mention the fact that Tobirama didn't know Minato wasn't a host while he was alive, so he had no reason to state something like that when you consider that in Tobirama's point of view Minato could have been a host for his entire life, but even still, what Tobirama didn't say is irrelevant.

No because just having more chakra doesn't mean you can do something, you need to have the skills to do it as well. Look at Kakashi in the beginning of Shippuden and Pein arc Kakashi, both have roughtly the same amount of chakra but Pein arc Kakashi is more skilled at using his Kamui than Kakashi from beginning of Shippuden. Kakashi said Naruto had 2x the chakra that he did when they were training in nature transformation, Jiraiya has more chakra so is Jiraiya more skilled with shadow clones and Rasengan?

Minato's base Rasengan is larger than Jiraiya's and Naruto's base Rasengan so is he better at Rasengan than them both who were making Oodama chou Rasengans? Minato is just more skilled at FTG and Tobirama said as much. Having more chakra doesn't mean he can accomplish such a feat without the skills to do so. Naruto had KM huge chakra and had speed comparable to Minato but he wasn't as skilled and well trained in using that speed as well as Minato as Yamato said here

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Also Edo Hashirama who isn't at full power compared the chakra that both Kurama's were giving to the alliance, of course Yang Kurama was out of chakra and had to borrow from Yin Kurama prior to this, but the amount they both gave to the alliance was much more than Naruto gave to the alliance alone and Tobirama's chakra is up there as well, just not as high as Hashirama's. Tobirama's chakra was high enough as a Edo to scare EMS Sasuke, Juugo, Orochimaru and Suigetsu

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and that's not full power.

Plus he wasn't going to be FTG everyone, he was going to be doing ninjas on the battle field but he can only do a small hand full and he's using Minato as a medium to do this. The next generation will always surpass the last remember?

 

[KingHashirama]

Flying Thunder God is the same speed, but what changes is the speed someone can use flying thunder god, so the reflexes, the speed of the chakra ect... Minato was simply proven better in that particular skill then Tobirama.

Tobirama's clone reacted faster than Minato...