Tobirama or Itachi

[FleeOnSight]

I think that Itachi has killed more Uchiha than Tobirama.

Obito helps him kill sleeping Uchiha. Tobirama did it on the battlefield. Not to mention the second strongest Uchiha in izuna behind Madara back then.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Kagutuschi is just the controlling of amaterasu, Izuna most likely had it.

And Tsukuyomi is a basic MS attack.

I think the more correct way to phrase what you are saying is, "We don't have the feats to say 100% that Tobirama can deal with Itachi".

However, i would like to to remind you... Tobirama can raise his chakra and destroy walls.. Itachi already acknowledged this concept of breaking genjutsu, when Naruto was trying it, but NAruto was too weak.



@Bold, the hype part is where you are wrong. THere hasn't been a shinobi in the leaf that has even been on Tobirama's level, till NAruto and sasuke . And that isn't enough hype?

The mere fact he already has more knowledge on the sharingan than Itachi has shown, isn't enough hype?

The mere fact the breaks stuff just by raising chakra sin't enough hype?

How does Itachi even counter his speed?

I meant purely genjutsu specefic.
He has never broken a genjutsu (i think)
And itachi is the only character to ever be shown or said to have tsukuyomi, i don't know why you think it's the basic Ms technique.

In other words, I don't think you can take someone near featless with genjutsu breaking and put them against a genjutsu master among genjutsu masters.
He hasn't shown itachis level of genjutsu capability, which is a loss in my opinion.

 

[Chie]

His hype ranks him above Itachi though. He was stated to be on par with EMS Madara.

No, it doesn't. He's just an Uchiha that was on Tobirama's level for some time. And for some time when they were older as well. They were rivals. Then died to a Hiriashin GG. Izuna wasn't stated to be on any form of Madara's level in the Viz scan. Just that he competed with him when they were growing up, because both brothers wanted to be strong.

Izuna's hype is literally "He has MS". Then died. :/ We don't even know his MS tech. For all we know, it could be a troll, like Shisui's eyes that take ten years just to use the tech again.

 

[LuckyMan]

I actually forgot about the Goju bombs. I was thinking of the way Kabuto/Orochimaru used them at first. If he's allotted prep time for Edo Tensei and uses that, then he definitely wins. And, only if he FTGs out of the area before they go off (which he would obviously).

I guess that Tobirama, Kabuto, and Orochimaru solo the Naruverse now. They're the only three characters that are allowed to pre-plan for vs fights and get techs ready for them now. Might as well get Konan to set up a paper bomb trap so that she can win against most of NV too. Since the other 3 get prep time for something like ET.

He wins with or without edos to be honest.

 

[Chie]

He wins with or without edos to be honest.

Please explain. And don't say because he killed a bunch of fodder Uchihas that we don't know the abilities of. xD

Tobirama is also the same man who died to 20 no-names who weren't from special bloodlines.

This logic can work either way.