[VS] Tobirama Ohnoki and Sakura Vs Hiruzen Hebi Sasuke and Ay

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Sakura isn't needed. Team 1 rapes this.

Onoki's clones can act as decoys, while Tobirama has enough time to throw out his kunai marked with FTG. Once that happens, Ay's speed is useless. Lets not also forget, that Onoki can make Tobirama fly and Tobirama can teleport Onoki via markings. They will easily defend each other from all ranges. If Onoki lights up Tobirama, his speed will increase as Ay was, and even Ay will be overwhelmed. Hiruzen and Sasuke get one shotted by this [ ].

The biggest threat is Ay. Sasuke and Hiruzen have non-factor in this fight.​
I guess you forgot about oral rebirth.
 

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Tobirama and Onoki rape.
Already confirmed that Hiruzen (at one point at least) was the strongest of the Gokage. His 5 elements against the Buddha proved better than Jinton.

Enma > Tobirama. Tobirama needs OP edo tenseis to beat Hiruzen in his prime at least...which he lacks because he said he only used ET for spying.
 

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Already confirmed that Hiruzen (at one point at least) was the strongest of the Gokage. His 5 elements against the Buddha proved better than Jinton.

Enma > Tobirama. Tobirama needs OP edo tenseis to beat Hiruzen in his prime at least...which he lacks because he said he only used ET for spying.
Change in chakra nature can't counter jinton like that. Kekkei Tota goes beyond elemental superiority. Jinton is composed of fire, earth, and wind. so even if hiruzen used water to counter fire, lightning to counter earth, and fire to counter wind, the earth part of jinton would fodderize hiruzen's water and lightning gets raped by wind. which would achieve a sort of stalemate, in which the kekkei tota would trump
 

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Change in chakra nature can't counter jinton like that. Kekkei Tota goes beyond elemental superiority. Jinton is composed of fire, earth, and wind. so even if hiruzen used water to counter fire, lightning to counter earth, and fire to counter wind, the earth part of jinton would fodderize hiruzen's water and lightning gets raped by wind. which would achieve a sort of stalemate, in which the kekkei tota would trump
Even if the elements are fired separately, they still mix when they hit their target so while Hiruzen's water loses to Jinton's earth, Hiruzen's lightning is beating Jinton's earth etc. It's basically Hiruzen's 5 elements vs Oonoki's 4? (or was it 3).
 

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You have the strongest person in the manga, with a person who can fly, and shoot jinton.. and then you have the second fastest guy... vs a old geezer, and 4th or 5th fastest guy in the series.. vs a kid..

Team 1 takes this.
 

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You have the strongest person in the manga, with a person who can fly, and shoot jinton.. and then you have the second fastest guy... vs a old geezer, and 4th or 5th fastest guy in the series.. vs a kid..

Team 1 takes this.
It said Hiruzen was healthy which could refer to prime.

If it's prime then team 2 takes this. It was already stated Hiruzen was the strongest of the 5 reigning kages (Kabuto never specified whether it was at one point, or even up to his death). Hiruzen was capable of stalemating the Buddha, I didn't see Oonoki do anything...

You're downplaying Ay's speed mate. Take away jins, and FTG and he's the fastest character in Naruto. Tobirama only has movement speed, if Tobirama's arms and legs could move as fast as his FTG then SM Madara would have been stabbed by the Kunai.

Enma, and Chidori stream should be able to counter Tobirama's sneak attacks w/ FTG.
 

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It said Hiruzen was healthy which could refer to prime.
You can be old and healthy.

If it's prime then team 2 takes this. It was already stated Hiruzen was the strongest of the 5 reigning kages (Kabuto never specified whether it was at one point, or even up to his death). Hiruzen was capable of stalemating the Buddha, I didn't see Oonoki do anything...
Onoki was out of chakra. Moments prior he was near death, just got revived.

You're downplaying Ay's speed mate. Take away jins, and FTG and he's the fastest character in Naruto. Tobirama only has movement speed, if Tobirama's arms and legs could move as fast as his FTG then SM Madara would have been stabbed by the Kunai.
Without FTG here we go.

Minato -> KCM Naruto -> Ei -> Tobirama -> Madara -> Sasuke -> Sandaime Raikage.

Minato >= KCM Naruto who outspeed Ei. In the manga.

SM Madara knew the attack was coming due to SM, and with his enhanced reflexes which were already great enough to block V2 shunshin, of course he could dodge FTG.
 

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team one ....

tobirama et is not restricted

even if it was not onooki could just make other 2 fly and then sakura and tobirama can provide onooki a lot of chakra to make super jinton (tobirama should b able to do same thing because like his granddaughter he is a senju sakura is basically a weaker version of tsunade) and we seen how big it was when the kages barely had no chakra imagine fresh

anyway that ends them Ay has no where to run..
 
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