Tobirama, Minato, Tsunade vs Muu, 2nd Mizukage, 3rd Raikage

[KidGamer65]

They do have an answer for the clam genjutsu though.

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It is not a sensory ability, but tracking.

-Tells the number of enemies or if there are enemies at all.

-Doesn't tell where they are.

IS a form of a sensing ability. Saying Minato isn't a sensor so its not a sensory ability isn't evidence towards your point. Its evidence that he's a sensor.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

I can't reply to this until you realize that clam Genjutsu isn't just going to make mirages of the Mizukage.



The Mizukage and his clam aren't connected in any way bar the fact that he summoned it yet it still makes mirages of him, because he wants it to. The same way its going to make mirages of the Raikage and Mu, because they do it. Its a Genjutsu under their control and there is absolutely no reason why they can't make illusions of Raikage and Mu in their own illusion. It not being shown isn't a legit way to contest this. The only way that your stance would make sense is if the Mizukage was somehow linked to his clam in some way, but as far as we know, its just a summoning.

Thing is though, neither you or me know the prerequisites in having the clam producing the mirage. Trollkage has a contract with the clam, perhaps that has something to do with it. That link between the contract. You just don't have sufficient evidence.

 

[Penguin]

-Tells the number of enemies or if there are enemies at all.

-Doesn't tell where they are.

IS a form of a sensing ability. Saying Minato isn't a sensor so its not a sensory ability isn't evidence towards your point. Its evidence that he's a sensor.

It obviously told him where it is. How would he attack him them? :|

 

[Murasame]

Tobirama isn't a factor here.. he'll be the first one to get wiped out in team 1.
Because of that Minato and Tsunade get ganged up on and team 2 wins mid diff.
I'm trolling and this especially goes out to you Penguin

 

[Tobby17]

yes because he's weaker than Tsunade and was a non factor against the juubi's jinchuuriki... oh wait

 

[TheEvilOne]

yes because he's weaker than Tsunade and was a non factor against the juubi's jinchuuriki... oh wait

Well Tobirama isn't much stronger then Tsunade. Without ET he gets outlasted if Tsunade is willing to summon the slug.

 

[Tendou00]

Team Konoha win mid dificulty

 

[Tobby17]

this is about him claiming that Tobirama will be a non factor.. and no I think Tobirama could beat Tsunade without Edo Tensei, she's a close range fighter, she'll try to take on him with Taijustu get tagged and have her head cut off. But this isn't a Tobirama vs Tsunade thread

anyway, he's not a ''non factor'' like this guy tried to claim

 

[Murasame]

this is about him claiming that Tobirama will be a non factor.. and no I think Tobirama could beat Tsunade without Edo Tensei, she's a close range fighter, she'll try to take on him with Taijustu get tagged and have her head cut off. But this isn't a Tobirama vs Tsunade thread

anyway, he's not a ''non factor'' like this guy tried to claim

Pffft Tobirama is a non factor. His suiton is pathetic and so is his FTG.. Minato is way better. Tsunade punches the ground if he tries to engage her in close combat and gg tobirama since none of his other weak techs are doing anything.
Like I said Tobirama is the most useless on his team since there is someone already better at using ftg and they have the best medic as a support. Since he's the weak link team 1 loses.
lolololololololololol you're taking the bait

 

[Tobby17]

no idea why I can't quote ppl but here goes nothing. How can you claim his Suiton is 'pathetic' when he still hasn't shown much feats??..

his ''pathetic'' FTG helped land two attacks on the Juubi's jinchuuriki
his ''pathetic'' FTG saved Minato Naruto and Sasuke
his ''pathetic'' FTG helped get Minato Hiruzen Emma and Naruto from the God tree
his ''pathetic'' FTG is the reason he's able to tag team so well with Minato and even help get ppl out of danger from the God tree and initiate attacks too.. yeah indeed pathetic. So much for ''non factor''

and yeah I'd like to see Tsunade punch team 1 to death or Minato kill anyone of them with his rasegan.. it's funny you don't even mention how he gets killed. Just talk about how he's a ''non factor''.. Stay hating

 

[BlackFlame44]

I can't reply to this until you realize that clam Genjutsu isn't just going to make mirages of the Mizukage.



The Mizukage and his clam aren't connected in any way bar the fact that he summoned it yet it still makes mirages of him, because he wants it to. The same way its going to make mirages of the Raikage and Mu, because they do it. Its a Genjutsu under their control and there is absolutely no reason why they can't make illusions of Raikage and Mu in their own illusion. It not being shown isn't a legit way to contest this. The only way that your stance would make sense is if the Mizukage was somehow linked to his clam in some way, but as far as we know, its just a summoning.



Yeah, except he got Senju DNA after his fight with Hashirama, moot point.


Ok? Was he Perfect Jin at any point during his life though? No, so Alive Minato doesn't get Bijuu Mode. That is as simple as its going to get.

Like I said Rinne Rebirth won't rede things happening after the death
Meaning Minato's Control over the nine tails
And of course he wouldn't have time to master the nine tails the same time he dies

 

[Murasame]

no idea why I can't quote ppl but here goes nothing. How can you claim his Suiton is 'pathetic' when he still hasn't shown much feats??..

his ''pathetic'' FTG helped land two attacks on the Juubi's jinchuuriki
his ''pathetic'' FTG saved Minato Naruto and Sasuke
his ''pathetic'' FTG helped get Minato Hiruzen Emma and Naruto from the God tree
his ''pathetic'' FTG is the reason he's able to tag team so well with Minato and even help get ppl out of danger from the God tree and initiate attacks too.. yeah indeed pathetic. So much for ''non factor''

and yeah I'd like to see Tsunade punch team 1 to death or Minato kill anyone of them with his rasegan.. it's funny you don't even mention how he gets killed. Just talk about how he's a ''non factor''.. Stay hating

Exactly you people overrate his suiton when he has little suiton feats that are weak as hell.
Yup and he needed the help of Naruto, minato, and sasuke otherwise his pathetic ftg wouldn't do anything

Tsunade>Tobirama you mad?
Muu uses jinton on him and GG!!!!!
Keep taking the bait bro

 

[Tobby17]

I haven't mentioned anything about his suiton now have I??.. see you're grasping at straws now

he needed their help to save them? :|

he needed naruto's help? or sasuke's help??.. or they needed his help to land an attack on Obito?? nope I'm not mad. as for your last point, well let's just say he has FTG

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

I've noticed Tobirama fans dislike Minato simply because they're jealous he's an upgraded version U_U

Yall boys be jelly?

 

[Murasame]

I haven't mentioned anything about his suiton now have I??.. see you're grasping at straws now

he needed their help to save them? :|

he needed naruto's help? or sasuke's help??.. or they needed his help to land an attack on Obito?? nope I'm not mad. as for your last point, well let's just say he has FTG

You took the bait Lmfao XD

 

[KidGamer65]

Like I said Rinne Rebirth won't rede things happening after the death
Meaning Minato's Control over the nine tails
And of course he wouldn't have time to master the nine tails the same time he dies

Except we aren't talking about a Rinne Tensei Minato, we are talking about an Alive Minato, and he didn't have control over Kurama.

 

[Penguin]

I've noticed Tobirama fans dislike Minato simply because they're jealous he's an upgraded version U_U

Yall boys be jelly?

Quite the opposite. Once Tobirama was shown using FTG, Minato fans were under quite a rage, saying how superior their character is than Tobirama. ._.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Except we aren't talking about a Rinne Tensei Minato, we are talking about an Alive Minato, and he didn't have control over Kurama.

That would mean that we can't use rinnegan/wood style madara when discussing him in threads too unless he's edo

 

[Murasame]

That would mean that we can't use rinnegan/wood style madara when discussing him in threads too unless he's edo

Why not since he can use them now being alive?

OP never said this was Minato revived with Rinne Tensei so I don't know why you automatically give him bijuu mode.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Why not since he can use them now being alive?

OP never said this was Minato revived with Rinne Tensei so I don't know why you automatically give him bijuu mode.

Because characters should be given all feats shown unless stated otherwise