Tobirama, Minato, Tsunade vs Muu, 2nd Mizukage, 3rd Raikage

[BlackFlame44]

Did OP say Edo Minato? No, and that is the only Minato who has Bijuu Mode.


Which frog has shown a Fuuton capable of doing this? Not like it matters since blowing away something continuously being produced that covers the battlefield isn't going to help anyway.


Yeah, because Naruto directed the One Fingered Nukite at his chest, which is the only thing in play bar Jinton that can hurt or kill him. Something he doesn't need to use against them to win so they can't hurt him.

Yeah, good plan, except that's impossible while the mirage is up, so Jinton isn't getting redirected.

Scans of Minato's sealing jutsu that you are referring to?



Making their jutsu bigger isn't going to help when they can't hit them due to the mirage, same with the acid.

lmao, this argument? Katusyu spreading out isn't letting them find the clam before they get shanked and atomized by Jinton and Nukite or blown up by Joki Boy.

Minato could use KCM and BM if he got revived

Being a Reanimation just brings him back in the state he died

Or is this minato prior to death?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

With full info team one wins. Minato handles the third just like how naruto handled him.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Tsunade's aoe is 210 m. She also has a Bijuu sizes slug who can split in more then 10.000 mini slug if necessary. If she can't find the clam then I don't know who can :|

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Team 2 mid-high difficulty.

 

[Minator93]

Tobirama soloes U_U

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Seriously, how are you guys suggesting team 2 takes this and even saying low-mid diff. Smh, you boys sleeping on the Hokage.

- 3rd Raikage is a literal non factor. The knowledge is set at full, meaning Minato is aware he's going to have to redirect Nukite in his direction.

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, is the same thing Minato will do. Minato's immense reflexes will ensure this goes as plan.

- Moving onto Muu, he too, is not really a large factor. Before I hear people saying Tsunade gets GG'd with Jinton, remember she is accompanied with two Hiraishin users. Minato or Tobirama can tag her, and teleport her out of harms way if need be [

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]. Not only that, but Jinton's requiring of prep time [

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] will give away his position. Not only can he not hit either of team 1 due to FTG, but giving away his position would lead to his downfall. Minato tosses a couple of Hiraishin Kunai his way and a Rasengan finishes him off. Of course, Muu could always go for a blindside attempt with his Jinton, but Tobirama being a

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, and minato showning such keen instincts even being able to react to a supposedly

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. Muu gets raped.

- As for Trollkage and his Mirage, EvilOne brought up an excellent point. Katsuyu is able to divide into thousands of mini pieces, all of whom are able to communicate effectively. The numbers were so large that, they were able to divide themselves to accommodate

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, but they can't find a clam? Of course they can. Once found, Minato drops a toad on top of it. Once that's out of the way, Trollkage is literally a sitting duck. Jouki boy can be ported away to a distance location, courtesy of Minato/Tobirama's clone and FTG. Then, Tobirama blows him up with his explosion jutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato could use KCM and BM if he got revived

Being a Reanimation just brings him back in the state he died

Or is this minato prior to death?

Could he do it when alive? No. So he can't use it. Was he Perfect Jin when he became Kurama's Jin? No.

Seriously, how are you guys suggesting team 2 takes this and even saying low-mid diff. Smh, you boys sleeping on the Hokage.

- 3rd Raikage is a literal non factor. The knowledge is set at full, meaning Minato is aware he's going to have to redirect Nukite in his direction.

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, is the same thing Minato will do. Minato's immense reflexes will ensure this goes as plan.

I hope you and everyone who lists this strategy realizes that he needs the One Fingered Nukite to be used for him to replicate Naruto's plan, but the Raikage has no use for it here, meaning they can't hurt him.

- Moving onto Muu, he too, is not really a large factor. Before I hear people saying Tsunade gets GG'd with Jinton, remember she is accompanied with two Hiraishin users. Minato or Tobirama can tag her, and teleport her out of harms way if need be [

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]. Not only that, but Jinton's requiring of prep time [

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] will give away his position. Not only can he not hit either of team 1 due to FTG, but giving away his position would lead to his downfall. Minato tosses a couple of Hiraishin Kunai his way and a Rasengan finishes him off. Of course, Muu could always go for a blindside attempt with his Jinton, but Tobirama being a

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, and minato showning such keen instincts even being able to react to a supposedly

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. Muu gets raped.

It would work, if it weren't for the mirage.

- As for Trollkage and his Mirage, EvilOne brought up an excellent point. Katsuyu is able to divide into thousands of mini pieces, all of whom are able to communicate effectively. The numbers were so large that, they were able to divide themselves to accommodate

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, but they can't find a clam? Of course they can. Once found, Minato drops a toad on top of it. Once that's out of the way, Trollkage is literally a sitting duck. Jouki boy can be ported away to a distance location, courtesy of Minato/Tobirama's clone and FTG. Then, Tobirama blows him up with his explosion jutsu.

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Except for the fact an open field is much more wide than Konoha is, combine that with the fact the others aren't going to sit there and watch as they search for the clam and you have them dying before they ever find it.

 

[Xēnovia.]

I would say team one would take this border line med-high diff.​

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Could he do it when alive? No. So he can't use it. Was he Perfect Jin when he became Kurama's Jin? No.




I hope you and everyone who lists this strategy realizes that he needs the One Fingered Nukite to be used for him to replicate Naruto's plan, but the Raikage has no use for it here, meaning they can't hurt him.


It would work, if it weren't for the mirage.

Except for the fact an open field is much more wide than Konoha is, combine that with the fact the others aren't going to sit there and watch as they search for the clam and you have them dying before they ever find it.[/QUOTE]

So he's fighting a bunch of Hokage, yet he won't use his strongest technique?

That doesn't matter. It's only a matter of time before the Katsuyu's find the clam by spreading themselves; the Hokage trio are more than enough to keep the alternative Kage stalled, long enough for them to locate the clam surely.

Edit - There are other ways to kill Sandaime too.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Too bad the clam is a sitting duck and it is always close to the Mizukage. Katsuyu and Tsunade finds it in no time.

 

[KidGamer65]

So he's fighting a bunch of Hokage, yet he won't use his strongest technique?

That doesn't matter. It's only a matter of time before the Katsuyu's find the clam by spreading themselves; the Hokage trio are more than enough to keep the alternative Kage stalled, long enough for them to locate the clam surely.

Edit - There are other ways to kill Sandaime too.

Not when there is no need for it, he's fighting Hokage, but he has two Kage on his side as well.

The Hokage aren't keeping anyone stalled while under the mirage. Please tell me how they will do this when they can't even see or sense the real Team 2 members to do anything to them, nor can they predict their attacks.

I'd like to hear these other ways, cause they all have to work while under the mirage as there is no chance Katsuyu is going to find it while she herself is under the mirage and when they are in an open field.

Too bad the clam is a sitting duck and it is always close to the Mizukage. Katsuyu and Tsunade finds it in no time.

Too bad that's fanfiction.

-The clam wasn't in its original position, otherwise they wouldn't have to look for it.

-Nor does the Mizukage have to be close to it.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Not when there is no need for it, he's fighting Hokage, but he has two Kage on his side as well.

The Hokage aren't keeping anyone stalled while under the mirage. Please tell me how they will do this when they can't even see or sense the real Team 2 members to do anything to them, nor can they predict their attacks.

I'd like to hear these other ways, cause they all have to work while under the mirage as there is no chance Katsuyu is going to find it while she herself is under the mirage and when they are in an open field.

Alright, lets take an alternative route then. Since he's a close quarter combatant, Minato engages him and tags him. Then, he teleports the 3rd directly in front of Katsuyu and then

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His body isn't saving him from being corroded.

Okay, but the clam only creates Mirages for Trollkage does it not? Can you prove to me it can work in the favour of Muu and the 3rd?

 

[KidGamer65]

Alright, lets take an alternative route then. Since he's a close quarter combatant, Minato engages him and tags him. Then, he teleports the 3rd directly in front of Katsuyu and then

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His body isn't saving him from being corroded.

Possible, but how is this going to happen if Katsuyu is split looking for the clam? And if she isn't split Mu can kill her with Jinton.

Okay, but the clam only creates Mirages for Trollkage does it not? Can you prove to me it can work in the favour of Muu and the 3rd?

Its a battlefield wide Genjutsu that forces the enemy to see mirages via mist, they are all under the mirage the moment the clam Genjutsu is active so there is no reason why the Mizukage and his clam will be hidden but his teammates won't.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Could he do it when alive? No. So he can't use it. Was he Perfect Jin when he became Kurama's Jin? No.




I hope you and everyone who lists this strategy realizes that he needs the One Fingered Nukite to be used for him to replicate Naruto's plan, but the Raikage has no use for it here, meaning they can't hurt him.


It would work, if it weren't for the mirage.

Except for the fact an open field is much more wide than Konoha is, combine that with the fact the others aren't going to sit there and watch as they search for the clam and you have them dying before they ever find it.[/QUOTE]


Of course he died the same time he became jinchurrikki
Doesn't mean that only reanimated minato is a jinchurrikki
If he were revived by the rinne rebirth technique he'd still have jinchurrikki powers

 

[KidGamer65]

Of course he died the same time he became jinchurrikki
Doesn't mean that only reanimated minato is a jinchurrikki
If he were revived by the rinne rebirth technique he'd still have jinchurrikki powers

Nope. Keyword is Perfect. I asked if he was a Perfect Jin. Why do people think having Kurama inside him automatically lets him use Bijuu Mode when you still have to cooperate with your Bijuu.

-Was he cooperating with Kurama at any time during his life? No, so Alive Minato doesn't get Bijuu Mode.

-He gained cooperation with Kurama either inside the Death God's stomach or on the battlefield, both post-mortem things, so him being revived with Rinne Tensei doesn't mean he can use Bijuu Mode or KCM while alive.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Possible, but how is this going to happen if Katsuyu is split looking for the clam? And if she isn't split Mu can kill her with Jinton.




Its a battlefield wide Genjutsu that forces the enemy to see mirages via mist, they are all under the mirage the moment the clam Genjutsu is active so there is no reason why the Mizukage and his clam will be hidden but his teammates won't.

Katsuyu can split into two big parts [

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] (other boss sized Katsuyu is with Sakura). One can melt the 3rd, the other can be looking for the clam. The moment Muu shows himself, Tobirama can end him with his explosion jutsu. Him being a sensor helps, too.

Right. It's a Genjutsu that effects the whole battlefield but it's the Mizukage's summoning. It's his clam, and it's only been shown to create Mirages of himself, so I'm gonna need you to show me evidence of it being able to create Mirages of Sandaime and Muu, otherwise that's assumption I'm afraid.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Nope. Keyword is Perfect. I asked if he was a Perfect Jin. Why do people think having Kurama inside him automatically lets him use Bijuu Mode when you still have to cooperate with your Bijuu.

-Was he cooperating with Kurama at any time during his life? No, so Alive Minato doesn't get Bijuu Mode.

-He gained cooperation with Kurama either inside the Death God's stomach or on the battlefield, both post-mortem things, so him being revived with Rinne Tensei doesn't mean he can use Bijuu Mode or KCM while alive.

IS taht why Current Madara has senju DNA even tho that too was post mortem?

The reanimation and the rinne rebirth work in the same ways

one just makes you a zombie w/ immortallity

If where to be revived once again he would also be a perfect jin since he'd be revived as a jinchurikki

rinne rebirth doesn't just reset everything prior to the death

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Team 2 wins.

-Have no way to get around the clam Genjutsu.

-Can't hurt the 3rd Raikage due to lack of offensive power. Katsuyu may work, but Jinton can handle that.

-Tsunade is a weak link.

This would be my answer too in simple.

 

[Penguin]

They do have an answer for the clam genjutsu though.

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It is not a sensory ability, but tracking.

 

[KidGamer65]

Katsuyu can split into two big parts [

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] (other boss sized Katsuyu is with Sakura). One can melt the 3rd, the other can be looking for the clam. The moment Muu shows himself, Tobirama can end him with his explosion jutsu. Him being a sensor helps, too.

I can't reply to this until you realize that clam Genjutsu isn't just going to make mirages of the Mizukage.

Right. It's a Genjutsu that effects the whole battlefield but it's the Mizukage's summoning. It's his clam, and it's only been shown to create Mirages of himself, so I'm gonna need you to show me evidence of it being able to create Mirages of Sandaime and Muu, otherwise that's assumption I'm afraid.

The Mizukage and his clam aren't connected in any way bar the fact that he summoned it yet it still makes mirages of him, because he wants it to. The same way its going to make mirages of the Raikage and Mu, because they do it. Its a Genjutsu under their control and there is absolutely no reason why they can't make illusions of Raikage and Mu in their own illusion. It not being shown isn't a legit way to contest this. The only way that your stance would make sense is if the Mizukage was somehow linked to his clam in some way, but as far as we know, its just a summoning.

IS taht why Current Madara has senju DNA even tho that too was post mortem?

The reanimation and the rinne rebirth work in the same ways

one just makes you a zombie w/ immortallity

If where to be revived once again he would also be a perfect jin since he'd be revived as a jinchurikki

rinne rebirth doesn't just reset everything prior to the death

Yeah, except he got Senju DNA after his fight with Hashirama, moot point.


Ok? Was he Perfect Jin at any point during his life though? No, so Alive Minato doesn't get Bijuu Mode. That is as simple as its going to get.