[Discussion] Tobirama could use the rasengan...?

[NarutoKage2]

I was re reading some manga and i was quite shocked to have stumbled across this:

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Muu, the 2nd Tsuchikage recognizes Naruto's technique when he says: ' this disordered rotation, its the rasengan..' .


How exactly did someone who lived at a time before the 4th Hokage was even born come to know of this technique?


As i believe was the case, Mu died fighting the 2nd Mizukage, which was said to be sometime before the 3rd Ninja War.



Tobirama has been compared to Minato with regard to his space time abilities, its possible that he learned of the rasengan as well by practising/refining chakra control well before the 4th. Also, i think the rasengan had to have been used only by a past Konoha shinobi, as if it were known to other villages there would have been at least a few other users of this technique.

Thoughts?

 

[Dihajum3]

Interesting.

 

[Dratasy]

The text doesn't symbolize that Mu said that, I think it was more of a note from Kishi

EDIT- Just adding this quote here of my post from the second page so people can see this easier and not be confused in thinking Mu said that.

Alright, so here is another reason.

Hiruzen Sarutobi was alive during Hashirama Senju, Tobirama Senju, and even Minato Namikaze's era of Hokage, so why is it Hiruzen never told anyone that Minato really didn't invent it, but that it was really Tobirama's jutsu?

Anyways if it was Muu there would be a bubble indicating it, much like when every other character goes into the thought speak, but in this case it wasn't there, so it was either Kishi's note or Kabuto's words.

Here is a perfect example of what Kishi's notes look like

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"4 Top Tier Shinobi Face Each Other Down!!!"

Which is the same text and bold as the one in the Mu page.

 

[captain pop]

The text doesn't symbolize that Mu said that, I think it was more of a note from Kishi

Most likely this. Minato was the one who invented the rasengan

 

[Netsui]

The text doesn't symbolize that Mu said that, I think it was more of a note from Kishi

This. Mu didn't say that, and it doesn't appear to be a thought bubble either. It was just the text. And the 4th created the Rasengan, so I don't think Tobirama learned it.

 

[Killer B]

wow I never realized that.....but who knows.....maybe its just a plot hole

+rep for finding that

 

[10TailedPower]

I like it, I always thought tobirama should have something he would be remembered for besides just edo, you know?

 

[MorphyRulez]

The text doesn't symbolize that Mu said that, I think it was more of a note from Kishi

Yes. According to manga Minato invented rasengan.

 

[Blaze Release]

Interesting and you might be right because although there isnt a speech bubble, its like him thinking in his head and in that case there is never a speech bubble

 

[Bgkiller]

the 4th created the rasengan so how could the 1st know it?

 

[cabby007]

no remember the fact the kabuto could see through mus eyes? etc so it was kabutos thinking, not mus

 

[natssuu]

The text doesn't symbolize that Mu said that, I think it was more of a note from Kishi

^This

 

[Vasto Lordé]

But wasn't it stated that Minato was the one who created the Rasengan??

 

[Flame Alchemist]

I too noticed that. I think kishi is waiting for the right time to let it leak.

I mean that when muu said "be careful I'm..." we didn't understand what it meant. after we see him explaining it we got he meant. I think something similar will appear, explaining his words.

remember muu isn't sealed yet

 

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Minato produced the rasengan - end of

 

[Utakata6Tails]

i dont think tobirama could learn jutsu which wasent even invented

 

[Braveknight]

Nop. that words muu was saying them in shock..bold means action in talking like i can say

you would never know my task

see? its just explain somebodies thought or when he is being under action..

 

[Dratasy]

Nop. that words muu was saying them in shock..bold means action in talking like i can say

you would never know my task

see? its just explain somebodies thought or when he is being under action..

Alright, so here is another reason.

Hiruzen Sarutobi was alive during Hashirama Senju, Tobirama Senju, and even Minato Namikaze's era of Hokage, so why is it Hiruzen never told anyone that Minato really didn't invent it, but that it was really Tobirama's jutsu?

Anyways if it was Muu there would be a bubble indicating it, much like when every other character goes into the thought speak, but in this case it wasn't there, so it was either Kishi's note or Kabuto's words.

Here is a perfect example of what Kishi's notes look like

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"4 Top Tier Shinobi Face Each Other Down!!!"

Which is the same text and bold as the one in the Mu page.

 

[Braveknight]

Alright, so here is another reason.

Hiruzen Sarutobi was alive during Hashirama Senju, Tobirama Senju, and even Minato Namikaze's era of Hokage, so why is it Hiruzen never told anyone that Minato really didn't invent it, but that it was really Tobirama's jutsu?

Anyways if it was Muu there would be a bubble indicating it, much like when every other character goes into the thought speak, but in this case it wasn't there, so it was either Kishi's note or Kabuto's words.

Here is a perfect example of what Kishi's notes look like

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"4 Top Tier Shinobi Face Each Other Down!!!"

Which is the same text and bold as the one in the Mu page.

ok Mr. darasty

First about the third hokage...well he didnt say many things take example of the naruto's family..he didnt say naruto were his family lived..so do we consdier that he knew were are they or just ignored things that it would not effect on any body.

about naruto and itachi pic it was in one page. at the dead corner of it and it was obvious that naruto would not say to his enemies they are top tier ...dafuq? and look at that pic of muu well he talked in 2 icons and the words was near him and one more thing. why would kishi explain for us the rasengan if he said it in naruto first part.....U_U

 

[natssuu]

ok Mr. darasty

First about the third hokage...well he didnt say many things take example of the naruto's family..he didnt say naruto were his family lived..so do we consdier that he knew were are they or just ignored things that it would not effect on any body.

about naruto and itachi pic it was in one page. at the dead corner of it and it was obvious that naruto would not say to his enemies they are top tier ...dafuq? and look at that pic of muu well he talked in 2 icons and the words was near him and one more thing. why would kishi explain for us the rasengan if he said it in naruto first part.....U_U

Because the rasengan is so unique, so Kishi made it clear that it's rasengan.

Also when Muu is thinking, the text looks like this:

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And then compare it to this:

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