Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.
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OMG! Obito wanted Sasuke to kill itachi so that he could gain his trust n get rid of another troublesome sharingan user (Itachi). He kept the pact because at the time tobi wanted to sync the gedo with sasuke but he needed to be able to control him afterwards. Tobi wouldnt be able to manipulate sasuke if he attacked the village and potentially killed itachi in the process..
Tell me what "secrets" obito meant when he said "I would have been dead if I hadn't kept a few secrets from him(itachi)"
If it was during the moment he meant, then he should have said "I would have been dead if I hadn't used kamui"
Kid, ur logic is flawed and u are twisting obito's statement to mean something else.
In a few words, BLOODY-ASS FANBOY! That's just mr kid.
If it was during the moment he meant, then he should have said "I would have been dead if I hadn't used kamui"
Kid, ur logic is flawed and u are twisting obito's statement to mean something else.
In a few words, BLOODY-ASS FANBOY! That's just mr kid.
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Well wasn't Nagato abiding by Obito's wishes and plans? Plus why after Itachi dies, he decides to attack Konoha?
I'm Just assuming
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How the hell do you know he used Kamui? It obviously wasn't Kamui genius.
If it was Kamui he would have burn mark cause the flames touched him, he most likely used Izanagi...I thought this was obvious but I guess it wasn't, what a fool..
YOU are twisting Obito's statement to mean something else, I already know you are an Itachi fan so i'm not really surprised.
By that statement he means that he would have died THAT MOMENT had Itachi known ALL of his secrets, not in battle.
If you can't understand this simple little fact then you should just leave now and don't come back, so you won't look stupider than you already do.
And its funny how you call me "kid" repeatedly....butthurt fanboy much? your probably some stupid little kid anyway, or at least you act like one.
He didn't attack Konoha because Itachi died, Obito was the one who told him to get the Kyuubi, thus confronting Konoha. In other words, he didn't really care about Itachi.
Btw Orochimaru attacked Konoha before Itachi's death, so I don't know where this "Everyone was scared of Itachi" comes from.
I would have believed u if obito had sent pain to get the eight-tails first. But he didn't. Once he confirmed that itachi was dead, he hastened his plans (which was very unlike akatsuki). He sent the inexperienced sasuke and taka to go after the eight-tails and pain for the nine-tails simultaneously. Why didn't he ask pain to go after the hachibi first, take their time in sealing it, strategize for the last bijuu, and then all akatsuki members(including pain) attack konoha and capture the kyuubi. This way akatsuki would have won! But cuz itachi died, they floundered the chance by hastiness.
Also, Orochimaru infiltrated konoha secretly while posing as kazekage. And as far as I remember, he wasn't the only one who attacked konoha.
Peace!
Mr kid, keep ur insults to urself until u tell us what "secrets" obito meant from his (thought) quote
"I would have been dead right now if I hadn't kept a few secrets from him"
Rephrasing this- if I hadn't kept a few secrets from him, I would have been dead right now
Note, he mentioned "hadn't kept" (past tense) and "would have been" (conditional progressive II) meaning an action that might have taken place IN THE PAST! Not right after the attack.
Why didn't he just say he would have been dead if he didn't use whatever technique (if not kamui) that saved him?
How exactly do or did u pass tests/exams at school? A simple grammatical statement and u derail its context to suit ur over-bloated fallacies of Obito-ism!
"I would have been dead right now if I hadn't kept a few secrets from him"
Rephrasing this- if I hadn't kept a few secrets from him, I would have been dead right now
Note, he mentioned "hadn't kept" (past tense) and "would have been" (conditional progressive II) meaning an action that might have taken place IN THE PAST! Not right after the attack.
Why didn't he just say he would have been dead if he didn't use whatever technique (if not kamui) that saved him?
How exactly do or did u pass tests/exams at school? A simple grammatical statement and u derail its context to suit ur over-bloated fallacies of Obito-ism!
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He said "Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
That means that he would have been dead at the time of the attack (which technically is in the past, since it happened a moment ago) if he hadn't kept his secrets from Itachi,
AND he even has this thought in his head, right after he says "I assume he set things up so the sight of my Sharingan would automatically trigger Amaterasu to activate.
Him meaning if they were to have fought is baseless assumption.
The guy is saying Nagato made a pact with Itachi/was scared of him... Sorry but I have a hard time believing that. Nagato never made a pact with Itachi, and if Obito told him to get the Kyuubi before Itachi's death, he wouldn't have given a shit about Itachi and went for the Kyuubi right away, at that time Itachi was already sick and he wouldn't risk to lose his life before he meets his younger brother. Obito knew that he wants to meet Sasuke and sent Zetsu to record their meeting/fight.. Anyway, Obito keeping the pact does in no way mean he was scared of Itachi, but rather keeping him in Akatsuki, as losing him would only weaken their organization. But Nagato doesn't have anything to do with the pact between Obito and Itachi.
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Sorry fanboy, Itachi disagrees, Manga Disagrees, and Kishimoto diasagrees:
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You see that, you have to REPLICATE the same movement after you make it, now stfu you lost.
And I know you added all the curse words cause I negged you. Butthurt much?
So you can't show me a scan then huh? Looks like you really are a stupid fanboy.
1st Point: No, that apply, if he used Kamui first of all, but he didn't so no you are wrong, and what he said means the same as what i'm saying: If he had not kept those secrets Itachi could have killed him AT THAT MOMENT.
2nd Point: How would those secrets let Itachi beat Tobi..
3rd Point: No, it means that he's lucky that he managed to keep secrets from him.
4th Point: Yeah, I know this.
And this is a debate over who would win Tobi or Itachi...of curse I'm going to reference fighting.
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You are still not getting it.
1. Tell me, what "secrets" could he be keeping at that moment ago which saved him from itachi who is already dead?
2.Already told u before. Itachi didn't plan on killing him because he wasn't sure who he really was but in case he tried to get near his brother, he set up that amaterasu. The scans proved this and part of tobi's secret is his TRUE IDENTITY! Tobi was not a part of the plot to overthrow the government in konoha, so itachi had no reason to want him dead as the other uchihas.
3.You agree that his secret saved him but u haven't told me what secret it was. He was lucky to keep his secret, logically means he was lucky to be alive while itachi was still around.
And lastly the thread is about "tobi was not scared of itachi". I'm countering that with tobi's very statement to himself.
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
Imagine someone (who u can beat at anyday anytime) tried to kill u after he was already dead. And the best statement u can come up with after u managed to survive is:
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
There is no anger in the above statement. Its more like saying "thank God, I survived by luck".
A lazy-ass statement if u ask me.
If it went that way, then itachi probably wouldn't have interfered. But tobi didn't just go for the kyuubi. He sent pain to destroy the village as well (shinra tensei). Pain didn't destroy any village when he captured the 6-tails nor did sasuke and taka when they got the 8-tails. So there was that personal vendetta against konoha that tobi/pain had, but could not attack while itachi was alive.
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KidGamer65
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The secret that saved him is possibly a secret that if Itachi knew it, he would have taken different measures to try to kill him instead of Amaterasu.
Even if the secret is about his Identity, that doesn't mean Itachi can beat Tobi 1 on 1.
Lol! Kid, if agree with this, then why did u discredit me when I said earlier on that we didn't know about susanoo until itachi activated it. We knew nothing about Izanami till he used it in defeating kabuto which means he probably has other techniques (another different measure) to take out kamui if the need arises. That's exactly what u are saying now.
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
Kishi isn't an idiot. If he meant (a few secrets) to be techniques, he would have put it there as jutsus but it will still be ambiguous because he said secrets(plural). Meaning obito used more than one jutsu to escape amaterasu which just isn't plausible.
[/QUOTE]Even if the secret is about his Identity, that doesn't mean Itachi can beat Tobi 1 on 1.[/QUOTE]
I won't argue with u on this one kid. Only kishi reserves the answer over who will defeat who but on paper itachi seems to have the advantage here because of his high intelligence and several techniques. But still, this statement:
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
This statement doesn't sound like he would be able to face itachi if the need arises. He is telling us here right now that the only reason he is still alive is because he kept secrets.
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Even if the secret is about his Identity, that doesn't mean Itachi can beat Tobi 1 on 1.[/QUOTE]
I won't argue with u on this one kid. Only kishi reserves the answer over who will defeat who but on paper itachi seems to have the advantage here because of his high intelligence and several techniques. But still, this statement:
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
This statement doesn't sound like he would be able to face itachi if the need arises. He is telling us here right now that the only reason he is still alive is because he kept secrets.[/QUOTE]
No what i'm saying is not the same.
I'm guessing what his secret could have been, you are blatantly assuming that he has other jutsu up his sleeve, but even if he does we have NO clue what those jutsu are and we can never come to a conclusion what they are so bringing them up is pointless.
Fine then, I won't argue either..looks like I'm done here.
I won't argue with u on this one kid. Only kishi reserves the answer over who will defeat who but on paper itachi seems to have the advantage here because of his high intelligence and several techniques. But still, this statement:
"Fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him..if I hadn't I'd be dead right now".
This statement doesn't sound like he would be able to face itachi if the need arises. He is telling us here right now that the only reason he is still alive is because he kept secrets.[/QUOTE]
No what i'm saying is not the same.
I'm guessing what his secret could have been, you are blatantly assuming that he has other jutsu up his sleeve, but even if he does we have NO clue what those jutsu are and we can never come to a conclusion what they are so bringing them up is pointless.
Fine then, I won't argue either..looks like I'm done here.[/QUOTE]
You guess and I assume. What's the difference? We all know that Tobi's most powerful technique is his secret.
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We can possibly narrow down the answers for Tobi's secret.
Tell me what are these "new jutsu" he could use to beat Tobi....oh wait you can't because it is a BASELESS assumption.
Logical guess>Baseless Assumption
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No what i'm saying is not the same.
I'm guessing what his secret could have been, you are blatantly assuming that he has other jutsu up his sleeve, but even if he does we have NO clue what those jutsu are and we can never come to a conclusion what they are so bringing them up is pointless.
Fine then, I won't argue either..looks like I'm done here.[/QUOTE]
You guess and I assume. What's the difference? We all know that Tobi's most powerful technique is his secret.[/QUOTE]
He hates everything about Itachi. Even though that kiddo told me he is being fair.He never was!!!!!! So,it's better to leave him.
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