Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

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Itachi is mostly feared my most ninjas anyway because of his presence
No, he isn't; we all know you just made this up.

He's finally seeing the light! Wake up from obito's dream world bro!
LOL! That's sarcasm....hence the little icon labeled ":sarcasm: rolls eyes"

I obviously disagree with what he said.
 

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People that still think Obito wasn't scared should open the link below! Even he himself acknowledged the fact that Itachi could have killed him if not for his protected little secrets.

 

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I'm not a fan of either, but I can say they both were keeping each other at bay.

All this "Because mutual respect" is bullshit, Tobi never respected Itachi, he never even kept his pact because he went after Sasuke and now Konoha, just because Itachi is dead. If he truly respected Itachi he would of kept his pact even after his death.

Although I would have to say Itachi would win a fight against tobi, because of one simple thing: SUSANOO esp itachi's, it's invincible, and instead of using izanami on Tobi he could just seal him with his shiny sword. Tobi doesn't have Susanoo and is therefore not invincible.

and like Itachi said to Kabuto, "This jutsu weakness is me" so Itachi is a good analyzer just like Kakashi to catch on how to defeat the opponent with ease. Tobi just thinks he's all that and doesn't need to think of how to defeat an opponent, but with Itachi I'm sure he would have trouble thinking on how to defeat him, while Itachi would know Tobi's weaknesses
 
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People that still think Obito wasn't scared should open the link below! Even he himself acknowledged the fact that Itachi could have killed him if not for his protected little secrets.

*Sigh* We've already gone over this in previous pages....he was talking about at that moment not in a fight and that does not mean he was scared..


I'm not a fan of either, but I can say they both were keeping each other at bay.

All this "Because mutual respect" is bullshit, Tobi never respected Itachi, he never even kept his pact because he went after Sasuke and now Konoha, just because Itachi is dead. If he truly respected Itachi he would of kept his pact even after his death.

Although I would have to say Itachi would win a fight against tobi, because of one simple thing: SUSANOO esp itachi's, it's invincible, and instead of using izanami on Tobi he could just seal him with his shiny sword. Tobi doesn't have Susanoo and is therefore not invincible.

and like Itachi said to Kabuto, "This jutsu weakness is me" so Itachi is a good analyzer just like Kakashi to catch on how to defeat the opponent with ease. Tobi just thinks he's all that and doesn't need to think of how to defeat an opponent, but with Itachi I'm sure he would have trouble thinking on how to defeat him, while Itachi would know Tobi's weaknesses
@bold: Lol, Obito's Kamui>>>>Susanoo (in terms of defense).

The sword can't hit him due to Kamui,

If all you have to say is that it's invincible you never should have posted on here cause that is a poor argument.

Who cares if Itachi knows how to beat Kamui, does it mean he can...no it doesn't.

Read some of the other pages....none of your arguments are new and they have already been countered.
 

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I see, but to me you haven't countered anything.

sure kamui >>> susano (in terms of techniques), but kamui IS NOT invincible, it has a flaw, Susanoo invincibility has no flaw

why is it a poor argument to state that Itachi is invincible and Tobi isn't? seems fair to me
 

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I see, but to me you haven't countered anything.

sure kamui >>> susano (in terms of techniques), but kamui IS NOT invincible, it has a flaw, Susanoo invincibility has no flaw
What? Can you read? You said the sword will seal him up, and I said that Kamui stops the sword from touching him (intangibility).

Seriously if "its invincible" is the only argument you have then this is pointless.
 

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I never said anything about the sword being THE MEANS of defeat, i am just saying how Itachi is invincible with all these things up his sleeve.

Kamui has nothing on him, sorry if you think its a pointless argument that Kamui is rendered uneffective against Itachi
I'm not saying Itachi is out to kill Tobi, but Tobi certainly can't kill Itachi
 

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I never said anything about the sword being THE MEANS of defeat, i am just saying how Itachi is invincible with all these things up his sleeve.

Kamui has nothing on him, sorry if you think its a pointless argument that Kamui is rendered uneffective against Itachi
I'm not saying Itachi is out to kill Tobi, but Tobi certainly can't kill Itachi
@bold:You said Susanoo is invincible, that is the pointless argument, don't try to change your wording.

Tobi can warp Itachi in the end.

Because Itachi can't hit him.

Susanoo is outlasted due to Itachi's low stamina, and Tobi's Stamina>Itachi's stamina, Susanoo isn't invincible.
 

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Listen I am sure they both are very high end ninja
Just the FACT that Itachi has an invincible susanoo (whenever he wants to pull it out) is a good reason for him not to be able to be defeated.
Luckily Itachi pretty much preordained his death and left everything to Sasuke, he was that kind of man, while Tobi was the opposite kind, which is why they had the "pact"
However Tobi having Kamui is also a good reason for him not to be defeated, but it is not invincible, it has weakness
 

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Listen I am sure they both are very high end ninja
Just the FACT that Itachi has an invincible susanoo (whenever he wants to pull it out) is a good reason for him not to be able to be defeated.
Luckily Itachi pretty much preordained his death and left everything to Sasuke, he was that kind of man, while Tobi was the opposite kind, which is why they had the "pact"
However Tobi having Kamui is also a good reason for him not to be defeated, but it is not invincible, it has weakness
Ok, whatever...and I see you didn't counter my argument.

@bold: I JUST pointed how Susanoo is defeated.....
 

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You didn't point out how Susanoo is defeated, you just pointed out Itachi's use of it at the last whim of his life. Besides even after Itachi died, he had a lot of other moves we did not know about like "Izanami"

All we know about Tobi is "Kamui" I wouldn't be surprised if Itachi has more techniques up his sleeve
 

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You didn't point out how Susanoo is defeated, you just pointed out Itachi's use of it at the last whim of his life. Besides even after Itachi died, he had a lot of other moves we did not know about like "Izanami"

All we know about Tobi is "Kamui" I wouldn't be surprised if Itachi has more techniques up his sleeve
No, I said it can be outlasted.....Itachi can't hit Tobi therefore Susanoo is useless so he either puts it down or drops it later on in the fight due to his low stamina.

Doesn't matter if Itachi has other techniques up his sleeve because we don't know about them and we never will.
 

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Saying the sword won't touch tobi is rather thoughtless. That sword is not even physical. Its spiritual.

And if u actually read the scan unbiasedly, u ll see that the statement

"...fortunately I managed to keep a few secrets even from him (itachi). If I hadn't, I'd be dead right now..."
In Obito,s mind.

He knew was no match for Itachi, that's why he kept so secrets away from him so he won't be taken out unawares. Even so, he only managed to escape amaterasu becuz Sasuke never aimed at killing him with it.
 

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sure...you can say Susanoo is useless all you want but
Kamui is more useless, all Itachi has to do is pull up susano when tobi is around him, never having to have it up all the time

Im not sure "how" itachi would defeat Tobi (he not even interested) but Tobi certainly couldn't kill itachi by any means.
 

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sure...you can say Susanoo is useless all you want but
Kamui is more useless, all Itachi has to do is pull up susano when tobi is around him, never having to have it up all the time

Im not sure "how" itachi would defeat Tobi (he not even interested) but Tobi certainly couldn't kill itachi by any means.

Itachi can keep pulling it up but what will it do? Nothing cause he can't hit him.

This battle ends with Itachi becoming tired and losing cause Tobi can't be hit.
 

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The battle ends probably the first time Tobi tries to make contact with Itachi via Kamui, won't be a lasting battle as Tobi will have a flaw the first time while Itachi will have an invincible head start.
 

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All Itachi needs to do is pretend as if to hit him knowing fully well that he ll let the attack pass through his body, Tobi tries to grab and he's finished! Susanoo hand counters tobi and game over!
 
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