Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

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When you are fighting someone of Itachi's caliber of course you need to worry about the potential of dying. It doesn't matter if you have awesome techniques, its still Itachi. The guy is one of the most skilled and intelligent ninjas in the shinobi world. There is a high chance he can kill you and that's something Obito always had to keep on his mind, and yes, be scared of.
 

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Every 2nd statement u give is "how would Itachi counter Kamui?"
So ure saying if someone cant counter just 1 ability, he cant beat him? There are many ways to defeat him. Konan couldnt "counter" Kamui neither, but she still almost killed him. How did Sasuke "counter" Izanagi vs Danzou? Yeah right you cant counter Izanagi but he still won. So in which way does Kamui make Obito dominate against Itachi? The best thing he can do is run away without getting injured. If he goes for an attack Itachi could easily hit him.

btw, how would Obito counter Itachis Susanoo? Kakashi also has Kamui, according to ur statements it would be Kakashi>Itachi.
But i think we all can clearly say Itachi>>>Kakashi....

I dont know if Obito was scared of Itachi or if Itachi was able to kill Obito, but saying Obito>Itachi wont make any sense
(and im sure Itachi wouldnt need Izanagi to escape Konan...)
You don't make sense ... Tobi's Kamui>>>Kakashi's Kamui, so your little comparison just makes you look foolish.

Konan KNEW his secret and spent a LONG time preparing that Paper Bomb Abyss.


You can counter Izanagi, Sasuke already did it.

Susanoo is outlasted by Tobi,Itachi can't keep it up for a long time, I've already said this why don't you go through the other post before replying.

If Kamui was as easy to counter as you say Minato wouldn't have needed FTG to beat him, Tobi can go intangible quicker than Itachi attacks him.
 

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Does Tobi look like the kind of guy to keep a stupid pact?
yep. because he needs members for akatsuki remember? or you dont know that simple fact?

Wow. Just Wow. I can tell you're a fanboy straight up. "Theres no way Itachi can beat Obito?" Use your damn common sense. Itachi is a genius next to Madara and Shisui. He'll figure out Obito's gameplan in a second and take him out with ease. It's only logical...
I can tell you're a fanboy straight up.. "in seconds?" lol. itachi's been a member of akatsuki for years but the trap he set for tobi still fails.
 
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cmon people we are all fans of someone but the fact is tobi was shitting rainbows from itachi. Itachi would finally make him one with the ground.
 

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@kidgamer65 I have to say that I think this thread is really done for. Originally you started with some half decent comments but over time it seems all your replies have turned into "your a moron! Tobi > Itachi".

You also seem to be replying to everyone asking how Itachi would beat Kamui while seemingly ignoring the fact that Tobi hiding away and never attacking doesn't make him better.... maybe you're right and Itachi couldn't kill Tobi but I don't know how you could possibly think Tobi could beat Itachi and you couldn't write Tobi > Itachi unless you think he could do so.

So I'll ask... how exactly would Tobi use "hiding-no-jutsu" to beat Itachi?

The best you can argue imo is that "Itachi couldn't kill Tobi" but I really don't understand how you can argue "Tobi > Itachi" as if he could somehow beat Itachi.
 
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@kidgamer65 I have to say that I think this thread is really done for. Originally you started with some half decent comments but over time it seems all your replies have turned into "your a moron! Tobi > Itachi".
If you read through the thread correctly, then you would see the only ones I called morons were the one who insulted me first, also this thread was originally about Tobi not being scared until some people came here and said "He was scared, Itachi > Tobi." So i did not start that debate either.

You also seem to be replying to everyone asking how Itachi would beat Kamui while seemingly ignoring the fact that Tobi hiding away and never attacking doesn't make him better.... maybe you're right and Itachi couldn't kill Tobi but I don't know how you could possibly think Tobi could beat Itachi and you couldn't write Tobi > Itachi unless you think he could do so.
Again I have already posted this before in earlier pages.

So I'll ask... how exactly would Tobi use "hiding-no-jutsu" to beat Itachi?
Itachi can't hit him because he doesn't have the necessary Jutsu, S/T Jutsu, or extreme speed, these are needed to hit Tobi before he goes intangible.

As we have seen Tobi has to be tangible to attack, but just attacking him while he attacks won't work cause he can simply switch to defense.

Minato and Obito charged at each other, and Minato threw a Kunai, the Kunai slipped through Obito, showing how fast he can switch from offense to defense. If it was that simple to hit him, FTG would not have been needed.

Itachi's Tsukuyomi won't work cause he knows not to look him in his eyes.

Amaterasu was already countered by Tobi, and that was a surprise attack, Amaterasu can be sucked up or he can turn intangible.

Susanoo can be outlasted cause Tobi can only be hit during his attack, but if Susanoo goes up Tobi won't attack him, so Itachi can't hit him.

Eventually Tobi warps him away with Kamui.

How does Itachi win cause I'm pretty sure he doesn't.
 

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U can't dodge a question that only one person can answer and that is kishi. Before guy fought tobi u know how many people said guy would be folderized to kamui, look wat happened. If the fight hasn't happened then theres no way that we can provide solidified proof that a character can counter anything, if I make a scenario then u call me a fanboy so I can't give u anything, BUT I did give u situation that proved kamui is not unbeatable And I gave u an example of how 5 shinobi came up with a STRATEGY to counter kamui. 3 of the 5 don't have s/t nin and was still able to go toe to toe with tobi. I already stated that when it comes down to these two, it comes down to who can be more proficient with there justu not who has the strongest justu.
VERY TRUE

Danzo's goons fought 2 on 1, the only reason they hit hi is because it was 2 on 1, Itachi is by himself.

Guy was with Naruto, Bee and Kakashi so that's also invalid.

I didn't ask for an example on how others beat it, I want an example on how Itachi beats it.
1. The same way he beats everyone...find a weakness in their jutsu...Tobi weakness is he needs to materialize to attack...Itachi goes on defence uses a clone to sucker tobi..Tobi attacks kills the clone and birds fly off..thats 1 contact on itachi...Tobi attacks again head on like he always does because he has (Naruto Syndrome) This time its the real Itachi INZANAMI!! Tobi is caught.

Don't say tobi will not be fooled into attacking a clone because he been fighting a naruto clone for the longest while before Madara showed up.

Note: Clones share same skill and jutsu potential as the real one

Tobi was scared of him
TRUE

kamui? let tobi pass itachi's intelligence/fasthandsigns/taijutsu/genjutsu/amaterasu/Susanoo/2 legendary weapons + his unique type of sharingan. tobi was scared because we all knew he would get screwd. >.<

EXACTLY!!


When this fight is done Tobi will be the most defeated Ninja LOL....He has never won a fight, Yet People are pinning him against Itachi Who is undefeated.

@kidgamer65 I have to say that I think this thread is really done for. Originally you started with some half decent comments but over time it seems all your replies have turned into "your a moron! Tobi > Itachi".

You also seem to be replying to everyone asking how Itachi would beat Kamui while seemingly ignoring the fact that Tobi hiding away and never attacking doesn't make him better.... maybe you're right and Itachi couldn't kill Tobi but I don't know how you could possibly think Tobi could beat Itachi and you couldn't write Tobi > Itachi unless you think he could do so.

So I'll ask... how exactly would Tobi use "hiding-no-jutsu" to beat Itachi?

The best you can argue imo is that "Itachi couldn't kill Tobi" but I really don't understand how you can argue "Tobi > Itachi" as if he could somehow beat Itachi.
Lets see how he refutes my Scenario
 
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Tobi was only behaving like a weakling because he had a plan if tobi were to battle with itachi . Itachi would be wasted because of his sharingan that turns reality to unreality
 

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I agreed with you to some extent tobi didn't fear itachi.. but he didn't want a potential deadly battle that could cost him precious resources for his Moon eye plan . for example itachi when we saw him as an edo tensei he used izanami on kabuto and there is always izanagi too that he could potential used and when you think about it itachi does have the advantage slight being able to both side of his sharingan(etc mangeko, susanno vs one with space-time jutsu at the stage where they were both alive, obviously obito now with both mangeko and rinnegan plus that he has access to hashirama cell threw zetsu combination all im saying is tobi(obito) played the field smartly removing all potential threats with patience ...
 

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VERY TRUE



1. The same way he beats everyone...find a weakness in their jutsu...Tobi weakness is he needs to materialize to attack...Itachi goes on defence uses a clone to sucker tobi..Tobi attacks kills the clone and birds fly off..thats 1 contact on itachi...Tobi attacks again head on like he always does because he has (Naruto Syndrome) This time its the real Itachi INZANAMI!! Tobi is caught.

Don't say tobi will not be fooled into attacking a clone because he been fighting a naruto clone for the longest while before Madara showed up.

Note: Clones share same skill and jutsu potential as the real one



TRUE



EXACTLY!!


When this fight is done Tobi will be the most defeated Ninja LOL....He has never won a fight, Yet People are pinning him against Itachi Who is undefeated.



Lets see how he refutes my Scenario
You clearly do not know how Izanami works. Do your homework before you post so much wrongness.
 

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1. The same way he beats everyone...find a weakness in their jutsu...Tobi weakness is he needs to materialize to attack...Itachi goes on defence uses a clone to sucker tobi..Tobi attacks kills the clone and birds fly off..thats 1 contact on itachi...Tobi attacks again head on like he always does because he has (Naruto Syndrome) This time its the real Itachi INZANAMI!! Tobi is caught.

Don't say tobi will not be fooled into attacking a clone because he been fighting a naruto clone for the longest while before Madara showed up.

Note: Clones share same skill and jutsu potential as the real one
When Tobi attacks he will go for Kamui, not to injure him, since he has no other offensive Jutsu, so once the clone gets sucked in, he has to replicate that same exact sensation, which means he himself will have to get sucked in.

And Tobi has to use Izanagi first or Itachi's Izanami will be useless, since Izanami counters Izanagi, and don't bring up Kabuto cause he had identity problems, he wasn't sure of who he was, Tobi is sure of who he is.
 

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ur a dummy, itachi was the only thing keeping tobi away from konoha when minato died, tobi mabe can go toe to toe with itachi now that he has the reningan but before he could not, only thing he could do was run away like wat he did against minato
At that point, Obito wouldn't have had a chance. Now? Obito wins. That simple. Obito knew damn well his hands were tied as long as Itachi was alive.
 

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At that point, Obito wouldn't have had a chance. Now? Obito wins. That simple. Obito knew damn well his hands were tied as long as Itachi was alive.
I agree with you partially....I personally think now and before Obito Loses to itachi simply because he is an idiot....His only win was against konan who would not even bruise itachi...Tobi will lose agains Naruto and co and he will go down as Loser...Not because he was ungifted but because he is well gifted but fails at using his gifts

When Tobi attacks he will go for Kamui, not to injure him, since he has no other offensive Jutsu, so once the clone gets sucked in, he has to replicate that same exact sensation, which means he himself will have to get sucked in.

And Tobi has to use Izanagi first or Itachi's Izanami will be useless, since Izanami counters Izanagi, and don't bring up Kabuto cause he had identity problems, he wasn't sure of who he was, Tobi is sure of who he is.
Still You dont say how Tobi Gets Itachi...see my point...Atleast I came up with a scenario but you still have yet to come up with PROOF or even a scenario...Pls dont say Tobi will suck in Itachi with Kamui because he has yet to do that against less formidable oponents like Kakashi or Guy or Konan.

How does "Hide-No-Jutsu" beat Itachi??
 
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