Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

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Just because they had a pact doesn't mean he was weaker, just assumption on your point, and if you think Itachi can beat Tobi tell me how does he?
Well to be realistic itachi and tobi would've fought for a while with tobi with upper hand until, which we all know itachi would've done, itachi would figure out how he is doing his spacetime justsu ability with his kamui. Which then itachi wouldve figured out how to beat this with a certain amount of time by just avoiding and striking with precision to keep tobi off his back. Then probably when tobi uses his kamui to get a location advantage which then gives tobi the upper hand and then its up to itachi's precision with his abilities of his amaterasu and susano'o to protect himself unless he take the safer route and use his crow substitution ability to get away and then come with the heavy tech later, which we all know itachi will use given the ability of tobi' kamui, but with all the ability tobi has with his kamui he cant touch itachi with the tech he had when itachi was alive during the akatsuki/pain attack preperations on konaha. overall itachi when he was alive: itachi>tobi - tobi in current form with rinnegan: tobi>itachi, so just chill the F U C K out
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Tobi is a very sensible guy, he wanted to keep Itachi who is strong in the akatsuki, and if it takes a pact to keep one of the strongest Uchihas, then why would he then break the pact.... seriously I dont no why people think in a linear fashion, expand ur horizon and see past who is stronger or not.
what am i saying? u may ask.... I am saying that since akatsuki were not much in number and were looking for more people to join, it would be senseless to let a gem like Itachi leave the group just because u want to be selfish and break the pact, and then have Itachi against u. NOTE: Tobi knows how to use people so he decided to keep the pact and use Itachi to capture other Bijuus, now that doesnt mean he is scared of Itachi, he is just just showing respect to his fellow ninja's wish.
U lot think like kids... Tobi has a plan and he wont let the plan crumble because he wants to show he is stronger than Itachi.
 
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Foolish fanboys, they say Itachi wins yet he can't counter Kamui, they say he was scared even though it never said or implied that.

When someone tells me HOW he counters Kamui and PROVE that he was scared (which he wasn't) then i'll consider changing my P.O.V, but until then Tobi > Itachi.
Kamui is not unbeatable. Danzo goons found a weakness and strategy to counter it, as did kakashi and minato.so its no stretch to say itachi can't do the same Wat makes it dangerous is that tobi is skillful and proficient at using kamui, in every fight he's been in he's taken some type of injury. Gai went toe to toe with tobi just using taijustu. u seem pretty bent of if u don't have s/t nin justu then u can't win, which is false. When it comes down to a fight between itachi Nd Obito it would come down to who can strategically use there justu the best to push one or the other into a corner.
 

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Kamui is not unbeatable. Danzo goons found a weakness and strategy to counter it, as did kakashi and minato.so its no stretch to say itachi can't do the same Wat makes it dangerous is that tobi is skillful and proficient at using kamui, in every fight he's been in he's taken some type of injury. Gai went toe to toe with tobi just using taijustu. u seem pretty bent of if u don't have s/t nin justu then u can't win, which is false. When it comes down to a fight between itachi Nd Obito it would come down to who can strategically use there justu the best to push one or the other into a corner.
Kidgamer is an idiot...He has not been reading the manga...Minato kicked tobi butt with one move..Guy went toe to toe with him and he did not suck guy in...Guy made contact yet he feels itachi will not make contact....Naruto slammed his face it too

I guarantee you before this fight he would say guy can never make contact with tobi because of kamui, but he did did'nt he...Inzanami wipes tobi easy.

I AM DONE WITH THIS BECAUSE KIDGAMER IS A CLOWN...HE MAID A CLAIM WITHOUT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT
 
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Kidgamer is an idiot...He has not been reading the manga...Minato kicked tobi butt with one move..Guy went toe to toe with him and he did not suck guy in...Guy made contact yet he feels itachi will not make contact....Naruto slammed his face it too

I [/I]B]guarantee you before this fight he would say guy can never make contact with tobi because of kamui, but he did did'nt he[/B][/B]...Inzanami wipes tobi easy.

I AM DONE WITH THIS BECAUSE KIDGAMER IS A CLOWN...HE MAID A CLAIM WITHOUT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT
Couldn't agree more. People seem to think just cause it hasn't happen it's impossible. They give characters their victory by the characteristics and strength of a justu not by how its used or the risk, which is just as big of a factor than anything.
 

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Truth hurts right?

There is no way in hell itachi can beat obito. I want you to tell me how itachi can inflict any kind of damage to obito? How? He can't. Obito knows everything there is to know about itachi from his base sharingan to his MS. Amaterasu won't work on him manga proved that. Obito knows all about itachis tsukuyomi and wouldn't allow himself to be caught in it. How will susanoo hit obito if he can't be hit?!

Please explain to me how itachi beats him cause I just don't see it. I'm waiting...
Wow. Just Wow. I can tell you're a fanboy straight up. "Theres no way Itachi can beat Obito?" Use your damn common sense. Itachi is a genius next to Madara and Shisui. He'll figure out Obito's gameplan in a second and take him out with ease. It's only logical...
 

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tobi has always been stroger than itachi, guys he alone attack the village and separated minato from his wife, also broke thru kohoha defence , mean while itachi was little back then carrying baby sakuke and also he cud ve sucked in minato if not dat he was fast with his teleportation justu,
guys r saying that he did not improve back and all he did was wait for itachi to grow up and b stronger than him no way.
remember he was trianed and taught all the secrets of uchiha by madara b4 itachi cud lay his hands on those secret also there r technique which only tobi knows bcos of madara. itachi cannot go to the five kage meeting and wistand the hit from raikage.
most fear tobi technique remeber guys, he only said that he would be dead by now since itach wud ve studied his move then attack him just the way sakuke studied orochimaro and attck him.
? Tobi had to suck the nine-tails out of a weakened host, use Naruto as a hostage, and use Naruto's mother as a hostage to move the 4th. Its easy to break through a villages defenses when you are at least Hokage level. Could have absorbed the 4th if it wasnt for his teleportation? The 4th was skilled which caused Tobi to lose an arm, lose control of nine-tails, lose the nine-tails when it was sucked into Naruto by the 4ths jutsu. So the 4th fought Tobi, made him lose an arm, deflected a TBB, sealed the Nine-tails, and then Tobi ran away. Maybe try to make your starting argument credible before trying to lead into something.
 

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These post are good examples of what people who are on Itachi's side do, they SAY he can counter it, but don't explain HOW he counters it.

Bringing up how Minato and Kakashi countered it is stupid and pointless since they had S/T Jutsu.

Kamui is not unbeatable. Danzo goons found a weakness and strategy to counter it, as did kakashi and minato.so its no stretch to say itachi can't do the same Wat makes it dangerous is that tobi is skillful and proficient at using kamui, in every fight he's been in he's taken some type of injury. Gai went toe to toe with tobi just using taijustu. u seem pretty bent of if u don't have s/t nin justu then u can't win, which is false. When it comes down to a fight between itachi Nd Obito it would come down to who can strategically use there justu the best to push one or the other into a corner.
Minato and Kakashi have S/T Jutsu to counter Kamui. Also mentioning others beating it doesn't answer my question, if your going to reply to me don't dodge the question. How does he counter Kamui?
 
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These post are good examples of what people who are on Itachi's side do, they SAY he can counter it, but don't explain HOW he counters it.

Bringing up how Minato and Kakashi countered it is stupid and pointless since they had S/T Jutsu.


Minato and Kakashi have S/T Jutsu to counter Kamui. Also mentioning others beating it doesn't answer my question, if your going to reply to me don't dodge the question. How does he counter Kamui?
U can't dodge a question that only one person can answer and that is kishi. Before guy fought tobi u know how many people said guy would be folderized to kamui, look wat happened. If the fight hasn't happened then theres no way that we can provide solidified proof that a character can counter anything, if I make a scenario then u call me a fanboy so I can't give u anything, BUT I did give u situation that proved kamui is not unbeatable And I gave u an example of how 5 shinobi came up with a STRATEGY to counter kamui. 3 of the 5 don't have s/t nin and was still able to go toe to toe with tobi. I already stated that when it comes down to these two, it comes down to who can be more proficient with there justu not who has the strongest justu.
 

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U can't dodge a question that only one person can answer and that is kishi. Before guy fought tobi u know how many people said guy would be folderized to kamui, look wat happened. If the fight hasn't happened then theres no way that we can provide solidified proof that a character can counter anything, if I make a scenario then u call me a fanboy so I can't give u anything, BUT I did give u situation that proved kamui is not unbeatable And I gave u an example of how 5 shinobi came up with a STRATEGY to counter kamui. 3 of the 5 don't have s/t nin and was still able to go toe to toe with tobi. I already stated that when it comes down to these two, it comes down to who can be more proficient with there justu not who has the strongest justu.
Danzo's goons fought 2 on 1, the only reason they hit hi is because it was 2 on 1, Itachi is by himself.

Guy was with Naruto, Bee and Kakashi so that's also invalid.

I didn't ask for an example on how others beat it, I want an example on how Itachi beats it.
 

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Obito is not a killer but a leader in d shadows. He only need foot soldiers 2 achieve his goal n not uchiha corpses. Remember even Itachi kud not kill-off d entire Uchiha clan alone; he sought d help of Tobi 2 accomplish dat.
Also Obito is not a destroyer, he wants to create his own ideology of perfect peace n not Naruto's blabbin.
Finally, d only reason Obito wil kil is bcos of disloyalty or failed mision as he threatened Pain n Sasuke; n u guyz talkin abt secrets? every1 includin d most powerful av weakpoint or openings
 

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Itachi waz workin 4 Tobi but Konan left Akatsuki, very different circumstance. Tobi even went light on Konan cos she waz a former memba of Akatsuki even though she waz betrayin dem
 

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Itachi scared everyone, everyone knew that he was a master of Sharingan and his tactics were always flawless imo.

I think that Tobi was indeed scared of Itachi and it's because in a fight Tobi had nothing except the ability to hide.....

Look at what happened when Tobi actually TRIED to fight Minato... he got dominated.

All of you people saying "Tobi > Itachi because Itachi couldn't even hit Tobi" well how the hell do you think Tobi would hit Itachi? >_>"

ALSO

MANGA SPOILERS ALERT STOP READING IF NOT UP TO DATE WITH MANGA --------

Itachi set his amaterasu to activate when seeing Tobi's face WHICH we now know was Obito's face so therefore Itachi knew who Tobi really was and that's another reason Tobi had to be scared of Itachi.

ONE FINAL THOUGHT If Tobi's "hiding-no-jutsu" is really so good that he can't get hit then why was he scared shitless when Kabuto revived Madara and said he'd use him against him.... it was because Tobi was nothing lol so once again he formed an "agreement" JUST like his with Itachi because he knew he couldn't beat him.

So no matter what way you look at it, Tobi couldn't beat Itachi but perhaps Tobi would have been able to hide from Itachi.
 
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kamui? let tobi pass itachi's intelligence/fasthandsigns/taijutsu/genjutsu/amaterasu/Susanoo/2 legendary weapons + his unique type of sharingan. tobi was scared because we all knew he would get screwd. >.<
 

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Foolish fanboys, they say Itachi wins yet he can't counter Kamui, they say he was scared even though it never said or implied that.

When someone tells me HOW he counters Kamui and PROVE that he was scared (which he wasn't) then i'll consider changing my P.O.V, but until then Tobi > Itachi.
Every 2nd statement u give is "how would Itachi counter Kamui?"
So ure saying if someone cant counter just 1 ability, he cant beat him? There are many ways to defeat him. Konan couldnt "counter" Kamui neither, but she still almost killed him. How did Sasuke "counter" Izanagi vs Danzou? Yeah right you cant counter Izanagi but he still won. So in which way does Kamui make Obito dominate against Itachi? The best thing he can do is run away without getting injured. If he goes for an attack Itachi could easily hit him.

btw, how would Obito counter Itachis Susanoo? Kakashi also has Kamui, according to ur statements it would be Kakashi>Itachi.
But i think we all can clearly say Itachi>>>Kakashi....

I dont know if Obito was scared of Itachi or if Itachi was able to kill Obito, but saying Obito>Itachi wont make any sense
(and im sure Itachi wouldnt need Izanagi to escape Konan...)
 
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