Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

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Every single shinobi at this time who knew itachi feared him for a reason... now dont start telling me madara or 1st hokage or minato didnt fear bla bla... im just stating my opinion here so re read the 1st sentence before posting and yes tobi did fear itachi before he got rinnegan and itachi even said he could surpass madara knowing wt madara was capable off...

We all thought kabuto actually had control over itachi n sasuke at the same time where sasuke was nothing more than sitting duck and itachi whopped kabuto's ass big time with izanami and saving sasuke at the same time...

so my conclusion is tobi did fear itachi before rinnegan but after getting rinnegan i assume tobi would have the upper hand if he knows how to use that is... again who knows wt itachi pull out if this battle happens..

1. Nagato
2. Itachi
3. Tobi without Rinn and 2. Tobi with Rin which makes itachi 3rd
 

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Really?? People are still debating this?? I thought this was a pretty open and shut case. Itachi tried to sneak attack Tobi, and failed. He didn't fight him head on, one on one, he didnt even try to catch him off guard while he was alive. If he was really stronger than Tobi, he would've just killed him and dismantled the Akatsuki chain of power from the top. He didn't even know everything about Tobi, and he still knew enough to see that he couldn't beat him in a one on one fight.

How any of you can even come up with an argument for Itachi>Tobi in your head that makes sense is beyond me. What kind of guy trys to protect his brother by dying and implanting a trap in his eye that MIGHT work (which it didn't) instead of just killlng the guy threatening your little brother? I'll tell you what kind of guy. The kind of guy that knows he isn't stronger than the threat.

You people forget, Itachi was under the impression that Tobi was actually Madara Uchiha. The Madara Uchiha. So even if he did try to fight him one one one, he would lose because he would have a completely different Uchiha's abilities in mind. Tobi had him mind f***** from the start. You can throw in all the "what if" scenarios you want. Those are only good in fan fiction. In Naruto, Tobi>Itachi. Let it go

*Edit* And stop with all the "Tobi said IF Itachi knew my secrets he could kill me" Because all you are doing is highlighting the fact that in reality Itachi didn't know his secrets, therefore he couldn't get the job done, not even with a surprise attack. The proof is in the manga. Like I said, you want Itachi to know all of Tobi's secrets so he can kill him? Write a fan fic about it.

Dude, itachi didn't have any reason to kill obito as far as the pact wasn't broken! And in any case, itachi didn't expect sasuke to join akatsuki but if he got approached by tobi, he installed amaterasu into sasuke as insurance. If he knew sasuke wouldn't go back to konoha, he would have changed plans and taken out obito before his death but he didn't plan it out that way. That's why he told sasuke later on that he made a mistake in thinking sasuke will go back and defend the village after he supposedly defeated itachi. So he never intended to kill obito, just wanted to protect his lil bro even in death. Some of u kids watch the anime or read the manga from your a*s*s*e*s!
 

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Every single shinobi at this time who knew itachi feared him for a reason... now dont start telling me madara or 1st hokage or minato didnt fear bla bla... im just stating my opinion here so re read the 1st sentence before posting and yes tobi did fear itachi before he got rinnegan and itachi even said he could surpass madara knowing wt madara was capable off...

We all thought kabuto actually had control over itachi n sasuke at the same time where sasuke was nothing more than sitting duck and itachi whopped kabuto's ass big time with izanami and saving sasuke at the same time...

so my conclusion is tobi did fear itachi before rinnegan but after getting rinnegan i assume tobi would have the upper hand if he knows how to use that is... again who knows wt itachi pull out if this battle happens..

1. Nagato
2. Itachi
3. Tobi without Rinn and 2. Tobi with Rin which makes itachi 3rd
i agree with this ^^^ . it makes sense for tobi to wait it out like he did, but if he felt he could have taken itachi out he would have im sure.
and im sure the reason he teamed itachi with kisame is because he was worried about what itachi was upto.
 

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Tobi & itachi made a pack wit each other because they don't trust one another, they want to keep an eye on each other.
"keep ur friends close, but keep ur enemy closer" tobi isn't afraid to fight itachi, but if they do, I think tobi would of gotten a ass whopping from itachi, ppl don't give enough credit to itachi, that Mofo is ridiculously strong, probably the strongest member of crew, rite underneath nagato.
 

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this is so clear as the sky
and still some haters make it ugly like Shit.

itachi>tobi simply just because tobi was shitting brix from itachi.
you guys shittin on kamui? well let first tobi counter itachi's unique ms techniques amaterasu/tsukyomi/susanoo/+ he's big brain and his prodigy skills 13 years old itachi punishes oro(sannin) how'd da **** do you explain that? + 2 legenary weapons.

You haters still do not realize how strong itachi is . but all you do is tryin to get him down he is a ****ing top tier above kage level shinobi like minati/nagato/(still shits on sasuke).

If tobi wanted itachi death he could kill him but the fact is he couldn't he was shitting brix! he knew that itachi could screw him anytime so he just waited his sickness even then he didn dare to attack him. and itachi's plans had nothing to do with tobi he just planned everything what he did to sasuke. but the outcome wasn't what he expected.
 
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Basically there was nothing to prove or to fight for between itachi and tobi ..... Itachi got help from tobi and tobi kept his promise !!
but on a 1 vs 1 fight my above post says it.... also if itachi could kill his entire clan of uchihas what difference will that make to kill tobi without rinnegan.... its just an another uchiha

Not to forget orochimaru a genius and a guy who was toying with kurama 4th or 5th tail lost his hand in blink of a eye and he was shitting bricks ever after listening to the name Itachi
 
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this is so clear as the sky
and still some haters make it ugly like Shit.

itachi>tobi simply just because tobi was shitting brix from itachi.
you guys shittin on kamui? well let first tobi counter itachi's unique ms techniques amaterasu/tsukyomi/susanoo/+ he's big brain and his prodigy skills 13 years old itachi punishes oro(sannin) how'd da **** do you explain that? + 2 legenary weapons.

You haters still do not realize how strong itachi is . but all you do is tryin to get him down he is a ****ing top tier above kage level shinobi like minati/nagato/(still shits on sasuke).

If tobi wanted itachi death he could kill him but the fact is he couldn't he was shitting brix! he knew that itachi could screw him anytime so he just waited his sickness even then he didn dare to attack him. and itachi's plans had nothing to do with tobi he just planned everything what he did to sasuke. but the outcome wasn't what he expected.
Zetsu himself realized that itachi was sick until itachi fought against sasuke so which makes itachi didnt let any 1 know that he had problems even though kisame knew that itachi was extending his life by forcefully taking medications,,,
 

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2 things
1st. It has been established that itachi definetly could have killed obito by him saying "If Itachi knew my secrets Id be dead by now" which proves that Obito Definetly thought Itachi was MORE than capable of killing him. In fact, going by his words Obito was SURE that itachi he'd prove no match to Itachi.

2nd. Being crushed by that rock was the best thing to happen to obito because otherwise Itachi would have killed him in the massacre
man,u re good.+rep
 

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I dont think that tobi was 'scared' of Itachi..
It was more some sort of respect to Itachi, not to touch Konoha..
I mean that if Tobi had to get rid of Itachi, he already did it..
 

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To those of you posting manga screen shots. You need to read and understand meanings behind statements.

-If itachi didn't die, they won't be able to proceed with the plan. It was a kind of relief to obito from the posted screen shots after he learned of his death, however, obito pointed out to the fact that he placed insurance in sasuke (amaterasu). Something he(obito) was not comfortable with. Check and read the screen shots well.

-When itachi met obito at the nakano shrine, he never pleaded with him for anything. Rather he warned him, he MUST NOT touch sasuke or the village. Its obvious he joined him because he had nothing to lose after taking out his clan, and he also needed to make sure obito doesn't go behind his back and break his pact. Just like when a older person warns a kid not to play video games, he won't be able to do so while the older person is around but as soon as he leaves, he disobeys and plays his video game. Just exactly what tobi did.
lol effin blind. itachi talked to tobi, tobi never approached itachi.
itachi said he'll help tobi get revenge to his clan, in exchange leave konoha and sasuke alone.

why would itachi fukin join him in the first place? if he knew tobi would be a threat to konoha why he didnt just kill him aswell? why did he bargain? answer that mofo. all those who said tobi is scared doesnt even post any page in the manga that will support their opinion.


Evidence #1

on this page tobi's exact words were "Fortunately, Im managed to keep a few secrets from him. If I hadnt, I'd be dead right now"

Evidence #2

on this page tobi's exact words were "Everything went smoothly. Itachi's dead,nothing stands in my way now. The leaf village is no longer off limits"

heres your proof you damn lames. i dont understand why you guys refuse to believe that itachi can beat tobi including this guy khaydz5.khaydz5...on the last thread called "akatsuki ranks" you said i was being an itachi fanboy for saying that itachi can beat tobi. tobi himself said he would have been dead if he didnt kept secrets from itachi so i guess tobi himself is being a itachi fanboy also.you know what I think? i think you guys are just tobi fanboys. you guys swear that tobi is f*ckin invincible or something. the only abilties this guy tobi have is izanagi,a couple of uchiha fire abilties that he only use once in a blue moon, and his space time spam jutsu.any strong ninja that knows how his spam jutsu works can pretty much take down tobi.it doesnt f*ckin take a rocket scientist to know this. look at the konan vs tobi situation. even though konan had advantage over the battle field, the fact that tobi would have been dead if it wasnt for spam izanagi is evidence enough that tobi isnt as strong as he seems. you guys are f*ckin lames and too f*ckin ignorant to get it through your heads.f*ck you and all you ignorant f*cks could eat satan's pubic hair
lol both your links doesnt prove anything, pain said the same thing about jiraiya after killing him. so you mean pain is also scared of jiraiya? you have a logic of 5yrs old honestly.

on your 2nd link, tobi's talking about his deal with itachi. when itachi died he doesnt need to keep his words anymore, and they can go ahead with the plan without any problem. doesnt sound like he was SCARED at all mofo.

we're running around in circles, you really cant understand the whole meaning of the pact. every ninja has their secret and its part of their strength.

yeah perfect example is tobi and konan fight. tobi manages to keep his secret from konan that is why he WON. if konan knew about izanagi he'll be dead but that doesnt matter, point is, HE WAS ABLE TO KILL KONAN BECAUSE OF THAT SECRET.

last man standing still wins, no matter how you look at it.
 

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the manga doesnt need to say tobi was scared for it to be 'true' - the fact is, tobi is a backstabber and i lier, thats why he was able to manipulate the akatsuki for the tailed beasts...why would he keep a pact with Itachi unless he feared itachi could do something to him if he attacked the village?
you sir are a total moron, and your manga panel actually disproves your theory as tobi called itachi an 'eyesore' - ie, a problem for tobi, he was glad itachi died because otherwise he couldnt attack the village without fear of being attacked/killed by itachi...your essentially making this a tobi vs itachi thread...put this in the vs thread section where it belongs.

fail thread is fail!

i can see why ur 1300+ posts and still have 1 rep power.
lol wtf alot of people doesnt realize tobi is recruting people to help him achieve their plan, and itachi is one of the ninja he was able to recruit. why would he kill this member if he knew he can still be of good use?

tobi used itachi to achieve their goal. you think someone's using you would be scared of you??lol. I feel like im debating with kids

Basically there was nothing to prove or to fight for between itachi and tobi ..... Itachi got help from tobi and tobi kept his promise !!
but on a 1 vs 1 fight my above post says it.... also if itachi could kill his entire clan of uchihas what difference will that make to kill tobi without rinnegan.... its just an another uchiha

Not to forget orochimaru a genius and a guy who was toying with kurama 4th or 5th tail lost his hand in blink of a eye and he was shitting bricks ever after listening to the name Itachi
lol what? itachi killed his entire clan?

WRONG. itachi AND tobi killed their clan. fact.
 
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I have been seeing people say that Tobi was scared of Itachi and then claiming that Itachi>Tobi so I wanted to make this thread.

This is the VIZ translation of the manga, this what Tobi ACTUALLY said.

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I think itachi agreed to join akatsuki but only if obito promised not to attack the leaf, he used itachi because of his power. I don't think he feared itachi, lets try to remember every member of akatsuki was an s rank or above. I think he just realized itachi made a better asset than enemy.
 

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Did you just take my thread and...dumb it down?
What thread?

I have been reading your quotes calling people moron and all that...Alright listen up ****ER, Go and watch Shippuden episode 139 ...there you will find Tobi releived when Itachi Died saying to himself that "If(Itachi) knew the truth about me I would have been dead right now". Tobi was narrating the past to Sasuke when he said this to himself.
We use the manga for proof not the episodes, so you can slap yourself now for that stupid post.

Also Itachi Susanoo Was invincible
Sword of Totsuka the blade is actually the liquid inside the gourd that is released and shaped, rather than a conventional sword. It is an ethereal weapon, with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces. Those who are stabbed by the sword are drawn into the jar and trapped in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" for all eternity; by extension, Itachi also managed to remove the Cursed Seal of Heaven from Sasuke by stabbing and removing Orochimaru from Sasuke's body. It can also cut through objects like a normal blade, thereby giving the wielder great versatility in his attacks.

The Yata Mirror was equipped to Itachi's Susanoo, in its left hand and, is considered one of the three sacred treasures. It is said to be endowed with all nature transformations and as such changes its own characteristics depending on those of the attack it receives, making the attack entirely ineffective. Zetsu claimed that this, combined with the Sword of Totsuka held in its right hand, essentially made Itachi's Susanoo invincible.

Since The Maker of this thread does not want to accept Itachi > Obito I will pound it in his brain.

Zetsu who was Madara's Information gatherer Claimed Itachi was invincible with Sword of Totsuka and The Yata Mirror. Note that Zetsu was well aware of Tobi/Obito's Power when he made that claim that Itachi was invincible. So who are you to claim Itachi < Tobi hmmm...On top of that Itachi Had Izanami which easily defeated Kabuto. Inzanami > Kamui, because Tobi would not feel it till its too late and he was caught in the infinite loop.

Explain to me why would Zetsu who knows the full extent of Tobi's power and all his secrets think Itachi was INVINCIBLE

note INVINCIBLE means: incapable of being conquered, defeated, or subdued
Izanami won't work, If he makes contact with him he can suck him in with Kamui.

What Zetsu said is hype, if you really think Itachi was literally invincible you need serious help.

Itachi can't hit Tobi so he can outlast him.

^^ WHAT HE SAID...duhhhhhh!!!




Izanami SIMPLE answer
Izanami won't work, If he makes contact with him he can suck him in with Kamui.
 

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I have been seeing people say that Tobi was scared of Itachi and then claiming that Itachi>Tobi so I wanted to make this thread.

This is the VIZ translation of the manga, this what Tobi ACTUALLY said.

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I agree +rep. Tobi doesn't seem to actually fear anything or anyone. However, besides the pact, he had a healthy respect for Itachi's power indicating that he knew Itachi could stop his plans or cause serious setbacks if he didn't honor the pact. In reality, an agreement is only as good as your ability to enforce it.
 
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