Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

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Because that is A>B>C logic and does not apply to Naruto, Itachi has NO WAY to hit Tobi let alone defeat him.
I could be wrong... BUT... If Konan was able to observe and learn Tobi's abilities with her regular eyes, I'm sure Itachi did as well with his sharingan... Konan was close to defeating Tobi, I'm sure Itachi would've defeated him... Amataratsu doesnt stop... Tobi can only let objects pass through him for 5 minutes... Itachi's susanoo, would've prevented the cheapshot Obito gave konan after he used izinagi on her... Correct me if Im wrong...
 

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No.

Kisame>guy

Kisame at 50% was able to survive his attack with no knowledge.


Kisame>bee

Manga.

Bee could have been killed by Kisame {30% charka clone} if it wasnt for A.
lol you dont understand a thing I said do you? Im saying IF kisame knew that his technique cannot absorb the morning tiger he could have done somethnig else. but kisame had zero knowledge about the attack that it why he was hit and defeated by that attack. get what I meant?

kisame was HIT, gai captured kisame because of morning tiger.cant you understand that fact?


it doesnt say tobi feared itachi, but it applyed it.

if tobi or danzo wasnt sacred of itachi.


Danzo- instead of soloing the uchiha clan he was forced to make itachi do it for sasukes sake.

Danzo talked about itachis genjutsu like he was sacred.

if Sasuke can solo danzo, itachi would one shot danzo

Itachi>danzo


Tobi- tobi apporched itachi, and some how knew about the meeting itachi had with root.

itachi told tobi he was to leave sasuke alone, and konah.

If tobi wasnt sacred of itachi, he could have done numerous things


1.destoryed konah in part one
2.soloed itachi
3.soloed and stole sasukes body/sharagin
4.took KA from itachi
5. took KA from danzo

Itachi>Tobi
lol are you effing kidding me? danzo was never afraid of itachi. danzo himself said that if he didn't obey danzo konoha will annahilate uchiha clan together with sasuke and itachi. now itachi OBEYED danzo because he wanted to save sasuke.that is why he chose to kill his own clan in exchange of leaving sasuke alone. wtf? fanboys would be fanboys. interpreting manga the way they want as long as it'll make itachi look stronger.

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in this page, danzo never show any hint of fear. instead he let itachi chose.

die together with the clan including sasuke. or kill his clan in exchange of sasuke's life.

itachi made a wise choice, he didn't dare oppose danzo because he knew that he will not be able to save itachi if konoha will attack his clan.
 
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Smh no tobi was not afraid of itachi, there are rarely any shinobi afraid of anything. but the pact was kept, not kept because tobi likes to keep his promises but because itachi was alive. Itachi being alive had was a formidable threat as well a asset to tobi. He had info not only on akatsuki but on tobi himself. Not only that he viewed itachi as equal in terms of strength goin as far as to metion more then once that if itachi wanted some one dead they'd certaintly turn up dead this is way he kept secrets from itachi, this is why he stayed from konoha not because he's weaker not because he's stronger because he didn't want to take any unnecessary risks when itachi was basically on his death bed.
 

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lol you dont understand a thing I said do you? Im saying IF kisame knew that his technique cannot absorb the morning tiger he could have done somethnig else. but kisame had zero knowledge about the attack that it why he was hit and defeated by that attack. get what I meant?

kisame was HIT, gai captured kisame because of morning tiger.cant you understand that fact?




lol are you effing kidding me? danzo was never afraid of itachi. danzo himself said that if he didn't obey danzo konoha will annahilate uchiha clan together with sasuke and itachi. now itachi OBEYED danzo because he wanted to save sasuke.that is why he chose to kill his own clan in exchange of leaving sasuke alone. wtf? fanboys would be fanboys. interpreting manga the way they want as long as it'll make itachi look stronger.
maybe cos itachi want keep few of clan alive instead wipe them all while itachi love his clan who know??? of course itachi can't alone defend all whole konoha lol
 

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i guess we see tobi kept his promise.
no fear at all. just respect..
the fail safe. that could have killed tobi.. was just that moment he would have died.
not every single moment around that.
as you see above. itachi seeked help kinda.
he didnt massacre a lone..
itachi asked to not kill his brother.
not attack konoha.
nothing about being scared,
a simple pact... that was respected. and kept til itachis death.
evidence that doesnt show he was scared.
evidence that shows that he wasnt scared. just keeping a pact.
i like how earlier on in this thread goku really fought to say that tobi was scared. haha

tobi nor itachi were afraid eachother im sure of..
just a mutual respect
i mean they are both uchia im sure that went a long way,,
besides. i wonder if we will get to see any itachi from obitos side /flashback
 
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It does not take a genious to know Itachi is not a match for Tobi. During the Uchiha Massacre, those two made a deal. Tobi would get rid of the Uchiha in exchange of not laying a hand on the village. It's in fact true that Tobi did not need to keep his promise but out of respect to a fellow Uchiha he did. And that scan where it shows Tobi saying he would be dead if Itachi knew his secrets. It is only talking about the moment it happened. If Itachi knew Tobi had S/T jutsu. Itachi might not have implanted Amaterasu on Sasuke but perhaps something Tobi might not be able to counter. However, isn't it curious? That Itachi had to resort to such a tactic to try and get rid of Tobi? Why not face tobi? This is because that despite Itachi being strong he would be unable to hold his own with Tobi. It is also said that Itachi joined Akatsuki to keep an eye on them. Tobi knew this. However, he did not get rid of him because Itachi was a valuable asset to the Akatsuki in capturing the tailed beasts. Tobi was the real puppet master.
 

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look at this he SAID "fortunately i managed to keep a few secret even from him, if i hadnt id be dead right now."

tobi was talking about the scenario where itachi made a trap against him. he wasnt afraid
 

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O_O everyone has this all wrong..

Tobi had to keep his pact..for itachi to work for him. o-o



1. kisame wasnt at 100% in that fight between guy
2.kisame survived guys strongest attack at half charka
3. kisame wasnt captured by guy, kisame broke wood style with pure strength near death
4. after that move guy was powerless, if it was a 1vs 1 kisame solos
5. learn to type


IDk wtf half your post says because its all BS. not a itachi fanboy

The manga>your opionion

Danzo was afraid of itachi otherwise there wouldnt be no deal, danzo and root would have soloed entire uchiha clan.

read the manga and leave your ideas out of it

itachi>danzo

itachi>tobi
Itachi was a kid... Danzo was a kage level at that time. so Danzo had nothing to worry about itachi at that point (which is what the guy showed in his post).

At that time of the massacre : Danzo > Itachi

Later on in the series : ITachi > Danzo.
 
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It was cuz he knew he couldn't kill not cuz of some stupid pact - as someone rightfully said he immediately went after konan and plus when he saw kabuto he didn't hesitate cuz he was an obstacle that he thought needed to be removed. In like fashion if he believed he could have taken him out he would have done it...that's jus his personality...but to have a fight with itachi would be more trouble than he was willing to bargain for --- hence fear...with the upgrades he's taken I'd say he could prob. beat him though.
 

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danzo was afraid...not in the way u think -- he threatened to spill the leaf's many secrets - hence he too was afraid and didn't touch sasuke -- think man -- if he wasn't afraid why didn't he go after sasuke one time?...*sigh* facepalm...
 

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Well, I don't care about Itachi>Tobi,
but I have to put my two cents in;
The only reason why Tobi made it out alive of his fight with Minato is because while he was just protecting himself,
Minato was protecting his wife, his newborn, and the whole village.
If it had been a different situation, he would have been so dead.
 

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Obito tard *sigh* from the moment you can talk like that and not even observe the fact that he DID NOT attack konoha until itachi was gone its obvious...geez...i'm not gonna repeat my previous comments i'm fed up - look it up.
 

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WOWWWWWW ARE PPL ON THIS SITE REALLY RETARDED????

OMG The OP posted facts from the manga! Facts!!! I said FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And retarded moorons still ignore them???

Let me further destroy any itachi retard supporter:
It was a deal they made
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This is what he said, just like any other ninja in the manga secrets make you win!
Jman vs pain secrets
Kakuzu vs kakashi secrets
army vs 2nd mizukage secrets etc etc

When you know there secrets you win simple logic for everyone in the manga! IT was a mutha****ing deal they made! If Tobi broke it, itachi tells on him to the world!

Damn this site makes me sick with the amount of ATOMIC NOOBS THAT SUPPORT ITACHI. And dont even know anything about him at all!!!
*sigh* not particularly an itachi fan...but when have you known tobi to not eliminate obstacles to his plan - hmmmm?? wonder why he didn't do that with itachi since u guessed it, he was an obstacle -- konan -- gone -- kabuto -- immediately attacked (as a perceived threat). and btw itachi DID NOT KNOW he was *spoiler for others reading * Obito - he thought he was madara...so umm wat was he gonna tell people...hey everybody this guy is madara...oh wait...other people already know...ohhhhhh -_- ...a drunk monkey could see that if he knew he could take out itachi it would have been done...you know this. Pact my a$$...yes he made a pact but you know this dude will lie, cheat, steal and stab to get at his goals - BE REAL.

"Yes it's true in the world of shinobi those who are itachi fan boys are lower than garbage...but those who are Obito fan boys and refuse to admit it are even worse!"...see wat i did there? lol
 

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YOU don't want to believe the facts, it as simple as this: Itachi can't hit Tobi, so how does he win, what does Itachi do to defeat Tobi, tell me this and then i'll believe Itachi>Tobi, but until then i'll stick with Tobi>Itachi.

Also this is the absolute translation because it's VIZ no other translation is better than this,
@KidGamer65: Itachi can defeat Tobi (w/o rinegan). You are forgetting the genjutsu, tsukoyomi and intelligence of Itachi. Itachi don't need to hit Tobi like naruto or guy; all that he needs is trap him under genjutsu and guess who is better genjutsu user between the two... ITACHI. Also, I would like to remind you that ITACHI had SHISUI's one eye. So your argument that Itachi cannot hit Tobi is not irrelevant. Itachi have already stated in the manga "Each jutsu has weakness" and ITACHI is more intelligent enough to figure it out after seeing his spacetime tech. (and TOBI is more deceptive than ITACHI.) So it could go either way.
 

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Agree with the OP 100%..

Tobi wasn't or will never be afraid to fight Itachi or any other member of Akatsuki. This has been shown as he was so confident to take on Kabuto even with the presence of the 5 strongest members of Akatsuki in front of him. This of course includes Edo-Itachi, Edo-Nagato, blah.. blah.. & so forth.. The fact that Tobi decided not to pursue on invading Konoha when Itachi was stil alive, doesn't necessarily mean or prove anything that he was intimidated by Itachi's power. There were reasons why he intends not to attack the village because:
1.) It was part of their arrangements, or as long as Itachi performs his tasks as an Akatsuki, their agreements were still honored.
2.) He wanted Itachi to die at Sasuke’s hand so he could manipulate Sasuke on his own way.
3.) Itachi joined Akatsuki in order to keep an eye on the organization. Thus, it could deteriorate most of Tobi's plan because Itachi could provide ample intel's to the rest of the villages about the Akatsuki's doings, goals & purposes, strategy, member's strengths & weaknesses or their jutsu's & capabilities.

Furthermore, Tobi seemed to be one-step ahead against Itachi. He knew the truth about him, the reasons why he wanted to die at Sasuke's hand, his real purpose of joining Akatsuki, & fooled him by letting him believed he was Uchiha Madara. Also, Itachi's plan for Sasuke failed only because of Tobi's intervention.

Hitherto, it was never stated in the manga that Tobi wished to kill or fight Itachi. However, one of Itachi's main goals is to kill Tobi. He even planted amaterasu in to Sasuke's eyes hoping it will eventually kill him.

So my conclusion, pre-rinnegan Tobi > ms Itachi. Itachi even believed that Tobi (a.k.a. Uchiha Madara during that time) was invincible & immortal. If he could actually kill him, he must have accomplished that a long time ago.

OT: People underestimates Tobi’s S/T often times. To every battle we’ve seen him fighting, he never had the intention to kill. His plan is to capture or warp them in to his dimension & perhaps gain control of them through genjutsu as we witnessed what happened to Fu & Torune. Even when he fought Konan, he could not kill him first because he wanted to know Nagato’s whereabouts. Imagine what will happen if he goes for instant kill, he could aim for the heart / head. Thus, making his S/T a “one-shot jutsu”!
 

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1. kisame wasnt at 100% in that fight between guy
2.kisame survived guys strongest attack at half charka
3. kisame wasnt captured by guy, kisame broke wood style with pure strength near death
4. after that move guy was powerless, if it was a 1vs 1 kisame solos
5. learn to type


IDk wtf half your post says because its all BS. not a itachi fanboy

The manga>your opionion

Danzo was afraid of itachi otherwise there wouldnt be no deal, danzo and root would have soloed entire uchiha clan.

read the manga and leave your ideas out of it

itachi>danzo

itachi>tobi
Lol i posted facts still you insizt danzo wasscared. Ignoring manga?
Danzo used itachi to eliminate the threat without them doing anything. Since itachi is double agent. Itachi obeyed dAnzo and chose to kill his clan rather than opposing danzo.
Before replying any more bs show a page where danzo is afraid

You really dont understand manga dude morning tiger brought down kisame because kisame though his ultimate shark jutsu would absorb the attack. Ill bring a manga page later im using vita now
 
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