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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

1. 17 years ago is behind 8 years ago, thanx for making my point for me. Time limit of years whatever the case, Shisui cared for the Uchiha as much as Itachi did maybe even more, Danzou couldv'e taken his eye telling him the same crap he told Itachi, put Itachi in Sasuke's postion, and Shisui in Itachi's. Danzou couldv'e told Shisui either he goes along with his plan or he'll destroy the Uchiha clan, including Itachi. All Shisui had to do was give Danzou 1 of his eyes. Uchiha members may have noticed his eye was missing, but he wasn't telling anyone what happened. Shisui was one of the most feared Uchiha within his clan, so nobody was going to make him tell them what happened.

2.He survived Tobi's assualt with little to no harm, meaning he has enough knowledge about that jutsu, or he uses it himself, like when Kakashi tried to attack Tobi with Kamui, it was pointless, same goes for Tobi against Danzou

3. It's not time consuming but it is stamina/chakra comsuming, as I stated earlier he had already used Kotoamatsukami earlier that day, he was drained regardless.

4. He wasn't going to have to get new eyes with Hashirama's cells he would be able to use them the next day, so if he had to "waste" them for a day to get rid of a lifetime nuisance, he made the right decision.

5. Ummmm you mean Kamui, the jutsu that Kakashi uses, being able to suck yourself and others into another dimension is Kamui, Kakashi can't do himself but he can do it to others, meaning Tobi isn't the ONLY ONE who can use it like you implied. And you're speaking of Orange Spiral who is Obito not Danzou. That jutsu in which Yellow Tigerstripe slips through others bodies is not Kamui
Kamui, sends the target or the wielder into another dimension. What Yellow Tigerstripe was not Kamui....

6. Zetsu is made of mokuton, Hashirama has mokuton, Danzou has Hashirama cells....do the math
Geez, man. You're really good at defending your theory. The thing is though, Danzo had to had taken Shisui's eye RIGHT before Shisui killed himself. Because, in chapter 550 you see Shisui on the night he killed himself and his right eye(or former right eye, lol) is bleeding. This suggests that the eye had JUST been taken. I don't really think that the blood would stay on for years. Also, how would people not notice that Shisui didn't have an eye for so long?
 

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Re: Common Sense that Tobi is Izuna Uchiha

Good effort for idea. Don't know why people can't just chill and stop being d*cks, but it is what it is I guess
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Geez, man. You're really good at defending your theory. The thing is though, Danzo had to had taken Shisui's eye RIGHT before Shisui killed himself. Because, in chapter 550 you see Shisui on the night he killed himself and his right eye(or former right eye, lol) is bleeding. This suggests that the eye had JUST been taken. I don't really think that the blood would stay on for years. Also, how would people not notice that Shisui didn't have an eye for so long?
A suggestion is a suggestion, your guess is as good as mine :shrug:, like I said Shisui was one of the most feared genjutsu users even within his clan. No one was going to make him tell them because they were afraid of him. He did care for the Uchiha deeply though, so he did spy on Itachi without hesitation in the name of the Uchiha. And I was 1 of 3 leaders for my school's debate team, when I was still in school haha. It was my job to go for the negative side of an arguement and make it seem right....this is what I do chief haha
 
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Re: Common Sense that Tobi is Izuna Uchiha

there is nothing common sense about it... tarded!

threads like this ensure that Idiocracy WILL come to pass...
 

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Re: Common Sense that Tobi is Izuna Uchiha

That proves nothing. Itachi is also dead yet running around.
Gaara has died but is well now ... it's possible to revive people in Naruto if you are not aware
Dude, Madara knows Tobi. He is clearly saying here that Izuna died and the ONLY thing he left behind was his eyes. He is practically saying his hatred is fueled by his brothers death. Izuna is not Tobi.
 

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Re: Common Sense that Tobi is Izuna Uchiha

Dude, Madara knows Tobi. He is clearly saying here that Izuna died and the ONLY thing he left behind was his eyes. He is practically saying his hatred is fueled by his brothers death. Izuna is not Tobi.
you will never know if izuna use izamai on madara inorder to fake his death.Izuna may be help itachi to kill the uchiha clan to get temporary eyes .We saw tobi had a collection of eyes in his hide out
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

I wouldn't say that. Whoever Tobi is he could be grabbing his arm remembering the loss of it, possibly in a fight with Izuna. He may have wanted to keep the story that it was a willing exchange going. The whole idea of someone volunteering their eyes then going off to die in a battle sounds like someone under a KA variant. Very similar to Tobirama's decision to be a decoy, which was a suggestion that came from Kagami. Someone had to perform the surgery and it wasn't the donor or recipient. I just find it hard to believe that Tobi cared how someone thought Madara got the eyes but was ok with him being an Edo slave.
Well none of the current known theories fall under "being alive to do the surgery of Madara-Izuna's eyes" unless you say the elder son which is a big longshot. It would be a random unknown character which I doubt would satisy anyone.

Also, Tobi DOES care about edo Madara. He curses Kabuto and you can see from the sound effect (sheen!/glare) of Tobi staring at the coffin out of the corner of his eye. This suggests that a revived Madara is a big deal, possibly not in Tobi's (if we assume the Izuna theory where Izuna may be trying to revive Madara fully using Gedo with Sasuke sync) best intrests to fight at that time (giving the impression that he did not care although was clearly moved by the 6th coffin).
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Well none of the current known theories fall under "being alive to do the surgery of Madara-Izuna's eyes" unless you say the elder son which is a big longshot. It would be a random unknown character which I doubt would satisy anyone.

Also, Tobi DOES care about edo Madara. He curses Kabuto and you can see from the sound effect (sheen!/glare) of Tobi staring at the coffin out of the corner of his eye. This suggests that a revived Madara is a big deal, possibly not in Tobi's (if we assume the Izuna theory where Izuna may be trying to revive Madara fully using Gedo with Sasuke sync) best intrests to fight at that time (giving the impression that he did not care although was clearly moved by the 6th coffin).
If Tobi loved his brother so much that he gave Madara his own eyes, and was emotionally distraught at the suggestion that Madara took the eyes by force and made sure to deny the story, do you think he would allow Kabuto access to him in Edo form? At the very least, he would Edo Madara himself if he was going to eventually Rinne Tensei him as you're suggesting. He certainly would not let Kabuto put him under his control. Doesn't hold water. More likely that Tobi trolled Madara to get Rinnegan. With Madara now in Edo form, he may be concerned with what he might find out, and if he will show up to ask Tobi some difficult questions.
 
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

1. 17 years ago is behind 8 years ago, thanx for making my point for me. Time limit of years whatever the case, Shisui cared for the Uchiha as much as Itachi did maybe even more, Danzou couldv'e taken his eye telling him the same crap he told Itachi, put Itachi in Sasuke's postion, and Shisui in Itachi's. Danzou couldv'e told Shisui either he goes along with his plan or he'll destroy the Uchiha clan, including Itachi. All Shisui had to do was give Danzou 1 of his eyes. Uchiha members may have noticed his eye was missing, but he wasn't telling anyone what happened. Shisui was one of the most feared Uchiha within his clan, so nobody was going to make him tell them what happened.
Ok? 17 Years is behind 8 years. Which is my point. If you REALLY think that Shisui could've been walking around for EIGHT YEARS without an eye, well I don't know, I don't know how you could think that. The higher ups in Konoha would not have just been satisfied with Shisui saying "Oh I don't know where my eye went." This is a SHARINGAN you know, a SECRET JUTSU of Konoha. Anytime a Hyuuga's eye went missing they sent out top level Ninjas/ANBU to go find that eye right damn now. They would do the same with a Sharingan. Shisui would HAVE to tell them what happened. And it wouldn't fly that Danzo stole it.

2.He survived Tobi's assualt with little to no harm, meaning he has enough knowledge about that jutsu, or he uses it himself, like when Kakashi tried to attack Tobi with Kamui, it was pointless, same goes for Tobi against Danzou
Well Tobi didn't use it against Danzo anyway, I was talking about Fu and Torune. But my whole point was that it is near impossible and implausible for these two Tobi's that you think there are, to have the EXACT same Jutsu's.

3. It's not time consuming but it is stamina/chakra comsuming, as I stated earlier he had already used Kotoamatsukami earlier that day, he was drained regardless.
It doesn't matter, my point was that if each Tobi we see, be it Tobi who fought Minato or the Tobi in the current time, each Tobi uses the Space-Time Jutsu WITHOUT tiring, and WITHOUT needing a break in between uses. So if that is the case, than Danzo being the Tobi that fought Minato, would be able to use it the same way if he had it. But he doesn't, so that is why he doesn't use it.

4. He wasn't going to have to get new eyes with Hashirama's cells he would be able to use them the next day, so if he had to "waste" them for a day to get rid of a lifetime nuisance, he made the right decision.
It doesn't matter if he has Hashirama's cells, Izanagi closes the eye FOREVER. So therefore he would have had to find 10 NEW Sharingan to put into his arm. Which he wouldn't be able to do.

5. Ummmm you mean Kamui, the jutsu that Kakashi uses, being able to suck yourself and others into another dimension is Kamui, Kakashi can't do himself but he can do it to others, meaning Tobi isn't the ONLY ONE who can use it like you implied. And you're speaking of Orange Spiral who is Obito not Danzou. That jutsu in which Yellow Tigerstripe slips through others bodies is not Kamui
Kamui, sends the target or the wielder into another dimension. What Yellow Tigerstripe was not Kamui....
Kamui is NOT the same thing that Tobi uses. NOT at all. Kamui DOES NOT suck in the entire body to an alternate dimension, nor can Kakashi even ACCESS that alternate dimension AFTER he sucks something in. Kakashi can suck in a body part, an explosion etc. He can't suck in an entire body. Plus Kakashi doesn't touch anybody to use that, he looks at the object with his eye and sends it into the other world, he can't send an entire person. What Tobi uses is something COMPELTELY different. And yes when Tobi phases through people and attacks, that is not Kamui obviously, but it IS the same Jutsu that Tobi uses to suck people into dimensions. He makes his own body intangible, probably sending it into the other dimension. Kakashi can obviously not do that, and neither can Danzo, or anybody else for that matter except Tobi.

6. Zetsu is made of mokuton, Hashirama has mokuton, Danzou has Hashirama cells....do the math
Ok, I know that, but Danzo's LEFT arm is NOT made of Mokuton, only his RIGHT. You can CLEARLY see this during his fight with Sasuke. His RIGHT ARM is discolored and Zetsu like, not his LEFT. But clearly in Tobi's fight with Minato, his LEFT hand falls off in the Zetsu like fashion. So that CAN'T be Danzo, since only his RIGHT arm is like that, not left.
 
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