Tobi said it before he is no one.. and i really think that he is a mixture of power like uchiha, senju, uzumaki, maybe he was someone hole back then. i dont even think he has a real body or face.
Well Good theory & could be true azwel for him being a Senju but he can't be an Uzumaki though imo. Remember what he said abt Uzumaki's when extracting kybi 4rm Kushina - something regarding spiritual force which surprised him to be true, contradicts him being a Uzumaki.
He does not ve any traits of Uzumaki aswell
ya but surprised could possibly mean that the uzumaki knew or thought they could survive the extraction and as a yng uzumaki he heard that said and then was surprised it turned out to be tru ???
hmm, to support your theory i would wanna hear more about zetsu's background as well considering his connectivity with tobi . cuz we all no zetsu is definly a senju dna creation
This theory doesn't really have much evidence. Tobi's senju dna comes from the fact that he has zetsu parts, which is not the same as Danzo's case. If Tobi is an Uchiha then he wouldn't get taken over by Hashi's dna anyway since he's the sage's blood descendent. It would also be nonsense to assume the uzumaki are any more "true" descendents than the senju and uchiha, since they have red hair and the sage most likely had blonde hair. Plus the Uchiha's eyes evolve into the rinnegan. If Tobi couldn't deactivate his sharingan, then I'm sure Deidara would've noticed earlier. Also Itachi had his sharingan activated most of time too, plus if he couldn't deactivate it, than why keep it uncovered. This theory is assumptions based on assumptions.
ya but surprised could possibly mean that the uzumaki knew or thought they could survive the extraction and as a yng uzumaki he heard that said and then was surprised it turned out to be tru ???
ok i will put more work into this theory of mine try and cover a few of the holes pointed out with facts and solid speculations and then well see what ppl say after that and one cnc at a time we will create a solid tobi theory
tobi is def a senju or and uzumaki and i say uzumaki jus based on the fact that they said the uzumaki were scattered around and the main character is and uzumaki plus i got a theory that the uzumaki are the tr decendants of the sage noot the senju and sumwhere the stories got mixed up and if u would like to read it here is the link
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i think tobi is an uzumaki or senju for one big reason no one on the entire show but an uzumaki or a senju could possible have the chakra reserves to control 5 bijuu at once and u could argue well he took senju uzumaki dna but remeber when danzo did that and got near the end of his chakra the senju dna over took him and he couldnt control it anymore but tobi has no trouble at all
also if he took hashi dna like everyone else he would have wood style but he hasnt shown it but what he has shown is the uzumaki kushina chain style there so who he is exactly no one can say but based on a few actions from tobi including the two i mentioned and the final inability to deactivate his sharingan im 99 percent sure he is an uzumaki
feel free to flame i prolly would i know there is holes in every theory but at least i didnt say he is obitio haha
hair can be changed or like naruto he jus does not have the red hair but as for him needing senju cells i saying i dont think he personally has any senju cells he uses them for his zetsus and stuff but i when has it been said that he has senju cells himself
i know there are holes like any theory but still the holes can be covered by some small speculation and i know that doesnt really count in the end but when there is no fact sumtimes u need to take sum calculated speculation to form a thought
Naruto's hair is blonde because his father's a Namikaze, not an Uzumaki.
The manga has clearly said Uzumaki's have red hair so no, Tobi is'nt one.
Also, if he were a senju why would he need senju DNA?
And plot wise its 99 % likely that Tobi is someone the readers have been introduced to before, otherwise there would be no point to the build up and suspense of the 6th coffin being Madara and of Tobi wearing a mask. So, then tell me which Senju could he possibly be? Neither of the first 2 hokages, they're all sealed in the Reaper(and they were confirmed dead anyway).
Who else is senju that we know about?
One more thing. There was no way that a non Uchiha would have been able to use his sharingan in a way that let him completely control the 4th Mizukage for such a long time. There are very few pure bloodline Uchiha's even with the Mangekyuo who have such mastery over sharingan genjutsu, to say that a Senju or Uzumaki could do something like that is impossible, i'm afraid.
So in light of perhaps obsessively trying to figure out who Tobi is, I think I may have discovered a secret about him rather than actually figuring out who he is. It hit me when I was simply observing some scenes he was in...
Tobi, the man behind the mask is more than one person. In other words, I believe he is 2 seperate people at once.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, if you watch the scene where Sasukes eye activated Itachis Amaterasu on Tobis right shoulder he cries out in pain and dances around in a panic before he falls into the shadows and comes back out seconds later seemingly unharmed. You think oh he just did his space time eye technique and escaped the flames somehow and then comes walking back out. But if you observe closely you can see that when he walks back out into the candlelight his outfit is slightly changed and his body seems to have become more aged and droopy (and even appears to be slightly shorter). And he automatically says "Not even Itachi knew everything about me. Otherwise I'd be dead" as if to imply he had more than one body to kill. Then if you fast forward to the episode where Sasuke is having his emo hissy fit fighting against the Raikage Tobi pays a visit to Naruto, Yamato and Kakashi and when Kakashi asks him what his goal is he says it's to "become a complete being".
Now, WHO Tobi is is a completely different mystery. As for now I think I may have unlocked atleast another aspect of his being
So in light of perhaps obsessively trying to figure out who Tobi is, I think I may have discovered a secret about him rather than actually figuring out who he is. It hit me when I was simply observing some scenes he was in...
Tobi, the man behind the mask is more than one person. In other words, I believe he is 2 seperate people at once.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, if you watch the scene where Sasukes eye activated Itachis Amaterasu on Tobis right shoulder he cries out in pain and dances around in a panic before he falls into the shadows and comes back out seconds later seemingly unharmed. You think oh he just did his space time eye technique and escaped the flames somehow and then comes walking back out. But if you observe closely you can see that when he walks back out into the candlelight his outfit is slightly changed and his body seems to have become more aged and droopy (and even appears to be slightly shorter). And he automatically says "Not even Itachi knew everything about me. Otherwise I'd be dead" as if to imply he had more than one body to kill. Then if you fast forward to the episode where Sasuke is having his emo hissy fit fighting against the Raikage Tobi pays a visit to Naruto, Yamato and Kakashi and when Kakashi asks him what his goal is he says it's to "become a complete being".
Now, WHO Tobi is is a completely different mystery. As for now I think I may have unlocked atleast another aspect of his being
So in light of perhaps obsessively trying to figure out who Tobi is, I think I may have discovered a secret about him rather than actually figuring out who he is. It hit me when I was simply observing some scenes he was in...
Tobi, the man behind the mask is more than one person. In other words, I believe he is 2 seperate people at once.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, if you watch the scene where Sasukes eye activated Itachis Amaterasu on Tobis right shoulder he cries out in pain and dances around in a panic before he falls into the shadows and comes back out seconds later seemingly unharmed. You think oh he just did his space time eye technique and escaped the flames somehow and then comes walking back out. But if you observe closely you can see that when he walks back out into the candlelight his outfit is slightly changed and his body seems to have become more aged and droopy (and even appears to be slightly shorter). And he automatically says "Not even Itachi knew everything about me. Otherwise I'd be dead" as if to imply he had more than one body to kill. Then if you fast forward to the episode where Sasuke is having his emo hissy fit fighting against the Raikage Tobi pays a visit to Naruto, Yamato and Kakashi and when Kakashi asks him what his goal is he says it's to "become a complete being".
Now, WHO Tobi is is a completely different mystery. As for now I think I may have unlocked atleast another aspect of his being
Your theory makes sense though maybe the last part about him wanting to be a complete being is maybe about collecting all the bijuus to create the Tentails? That's just a suggestion that could be possible too but I like your theory Well thought out, +rep
So in light of perhaps obsessively trying to figure out who Tobi is, I think I may have discovered a secret about him rather than actually figuring out who he is. It hit me when I was simply observing some scenes he was in...
Tobi, the man behind the mask is more than one person. In other words, I believe he is 2 seperate people at once.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, if you watch the scene where Sasukes eye activated Itachis Amaterasu on Tobis right shoulder he cries out in pain and dances around in a panic before he falls into the shadows and comes back out seconds later seemingly unharmed. You think oh he just did his space time eye technique and escaped the flames somehow and then comes walking back out. But if you observe closely you can see that when he walks back out into the candlelight his outfit is slightly changed and his body seems to have become more aged and droopy (and even appears to be slightly shorter). And he automatically says "Not even Itachi knew everything about me. Otherwise I'd be dead" as if to imply he had more than one body to kill. Then if you fast forward to the episode where Sasuke is having his emo hissy fit fighting against the Raikage Tobi pays a visit to Naruto, Yamato and Kakashi and when Kakashi asks him what his goal is he says it's to "become a complete being".
Now, WHO Tobi is is a completely different mystery. As for now I think I may have unlocked atleast another aspect of his being
