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Re: Tobi is Sage of six paths (read)
I have a similar prediction I posted earlier, i also made a new thread which is more refined, but its really long and still has a few flaws
here it is if you're interested
I have a similar prediction I posted earlier, i also made a new thread which is more refined, but its really long and still has a few flaws
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here it is if you're interested
Uzumaki Hyuga
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Re: Tobi is Sage of six paths (read)
tobi cannot be the sage of six path cause according to archive, The SO6P created all the jutsu that exists today, but Tobi had to learn ET from Kabuto.
SO6P can no way be scared if he where to face Kabuto or edo tensei, but Tobi was a bit nervous. If Tobi were the SO6P, the tailed beast would recognise him almost immediately. and if Tobi were the SO6P who can create out of nothing with the izanagi; why need the other tails or something,why does the SO6P want to keep Hashirama's DNA, why did Kisame call him "former lord mizukage?"
tobi cannot be the sage of six path cause according to archive, The SO6P created all the jutsu that exists today, but Tobi had to learn ET from Kabuto.
SO6P can no way be scared if he where to face Kabuto or edo tensei, but Tobi was a bit nervous. If Tobi were the SO6P, the tailed beast would recognise him almost immediately. and if Tobi were the SO6P who can create out of nothing with the izanagi; why need the other tails or something,why does the SO6P want to keep Hashirama's DNA, why did Kisame call him "former lord mizukage?"
Re: Mystery Revelation!!
All the "who is Tobi" is taking so long and ppl made so many theories about it, that got boring. Tobi is Tobi until Kishi shows otherwise, and until then, I don't really care.
About your theory... Nice effort. But could you also explain why ppl don't just seal the chakra of the other beasts inside ppl, instead of sealing chakra+beast soul!?!?
Because if it was like that, I'm sure it would be far more easy to control their power, not having to worry about the beast attitude.
Conclusion, the beast soul is most likely trapped in the moon with his body.
All the "who is Tobi" is taking so long and ppl made so many theories about it, that got boring. Tobi is Tobi until Kishi shows otherwise, and until then, I don't really care.
About your theory... Nice effort. But could you also explain why ppl don't just seal the chakra of the other beasts inside ppl, instead of sealing chakra+beast soul!?!?
Because if it was like that, I'm sure it would be far more easy to control their power, not having to worry about the beast attitude.
Conclusion, the beast soul is most likely trapped in the moon with his body.
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The Warrior
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Re: Mystery Revelation!!
i could explain EVERYTHING, im just too lazy...........lol so ask small questions.
the soul doesnt get trapped in a body after you die.
i could explain EVERYTHING, im just too lazy...........lol so ask small questions.
nuku ninja
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Re: Mystery Revelation!!
read this
If you think about it like how he said from kishis point of veiw this is probley the best prediction out. the series has to end soon so wouldn't it make sense to start adding the final plots and enemies?
read this
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it kinda helps with your theory and explains alot about somethingsRe: Mystery Revelation!!
As far as we know, Juubi is alive, but sealed.
Besides, the beasts are not like humans... When they die, they just come back to live again passed some time, even coz they're body is a mass of chakra. Chakra+Soul.
Who said the Juubi is dead!?!?
As far as we know, Juubi is alive, but sealed.
Besides, the beasts are not like humans... When they die, they just come back to live again passed some time, even coz they're body is a mass of chakra. Chakra+Soul.
Re: Mystery Revelation!!
I think you're dead wrong. How can a mind of a living mass of chakra continue to live as a human? Beacuse the tailed beasts are the chakra from the ten-tails tobi can't possibly be a part of the chakra.
I think you're dead wrong. How can a mind of a living mass of chakra continue to live as a human? Beacuse the tailed beasts are the chakra from the ten-tails tobi can't possibly be a part of the chakra.
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The Warrior
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-
Maybe his body? My prediction is Tobi has the soul of the Sage within him and he is trying to reform himself. That's why he is helping Sasuke progress so much. Sasuke being the reincarnation of the older son who has the eyes and spiritual energies, and Naruto the younger son who has the body and physical energies. You combine them you have a body very similar to that of the Sage and the perfect host for the Juubi. But this is all speculation.
Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-
maybe when SO6P divided Jubi to 9 beast he sealed something in kyubi , wich would explain why naruto chakra form is similar to So6p. or maybe he want to take the uzumaki`s fuinstyle so he can be able to seal the kyubi after all. i really dont have any logical idea
Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-
You could be right. Maybe the Sage did seal something important within the Kyuubi in the hope that if someone tried to reincarnate the Juubi the 9-Tails jinchuuriki could stop it.maybe when SO6P divided Jubi to 9 beast he sealed something in kyubi , wich would explain why naruto chakra form is similar to So6p. or maybe he want to take the uzumaki`s fuinstyle so he can be able to seal the kyubi after all. i really dont have any logical idea
dattebayo91
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-
I believe he is Izuna and this is key
tobi clenched his arm when he said that izuna gave his eyes willingly, just a small example
i could argue with anyone on this
I believe he is Izuna and this is key
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tobi clenched his arm when he said that izuna gave his eyes willingly, just a small example
i could argue with anyone on this
yoshimitsu
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-
@ the warrior
i agree with your theory. i believe tobi is either some form or another of the juubi, or he is some form or another of so6p (corrupted or infected by juubi).
my ideas may be farfetched, but read them out.
madara (summoned by kabuto through muu) was aware of a technique known as "impure world resurrection". tobi, however, did not. he even asked kabuto to show him how its done. tobi has also never shown any elemental jutsu. from this, i can safely assume tobi is not madara.
tobi has mad amounts of chakra. he freely manipulates x tailed beasts without breaking a sweat.
before the 5 kages, madara shows a conceited, yet determined and arrogant glare. such a glare indicates madara is willing, although not necessarily capable, of battling 5 kages at once. now recall when tobi introduced himself to the kages; he was calm and diplomatic (or more tyrannic). one is more talkative; theother (madara) more combative. they do not have same personalities.
and in a recent chapter (too lazy to verify), tobi states "you have something that belongs to me", meaning the 8 and 9 tails.
your thoughts?
@ the warrior
i agree with your theory. i believe tobi is either some form or another of the juubi, or he is some form or another of so6p (corrupted or infected by juubi).
my ideas may be farfetched, but read them out.
madara (summoned by kabuto through muu) was aware of a technique known as "impure world resurrection". tobi, however, did not. he even asked kabuto to show him how its done. tobi has also never shown any elemental jutsu. from this, i can safely assume tobi is not madara.
tobi has mad amounts of chakra. he freely manipulates x tailed beasts without breaking a sweat.
before the 5 kages, madara shows a conceited, yet determined and arrogant glare. such a glare indicates madara is willing, although not necessarily capable, of battling 5 kages at once. now recall when tobi introduced himself to the kages; he was calm and diplomatic (or more tyrannic). one is more talkative; theother (madara) more combative. they do not have same personalities.
and in a recent chapter (too lazy to verify), tobi states "you have something that belongs to me", meaning the 8 and 9 tails.
your thoughts?
Who is Tobi? I think I know
This is somethin I have been thinking off aside from the numerous theories about Tobi. Correct me if anything, I have been thinking about this.
Tobi at the kage summit, told about the ten tails and sage of the sixth paths story?
He said that only those with sharingan and rinnegan are able to read the stone tablet at wich the uchihas posesses.
A rinnegan bearer would be able to understand the whole tablet, about ten tails and sage og the six paths.
But a sharingan bearer would only understand some?
As Tobi currently wasn't a rinnegan bearer, how then is he able to know the whole story?
We saw edo Madara achieve the rinnegan, wich came as a big suprise, but he testified that it occured before his death against Hashirama.
So there would be no way he would have read the stone tablet, and informed Tobi about it.
Or maybe Tobi took Madaras rinnegan after he died and read the stone tablet, then took em off and put em on Nagato, sounds very unlikely to me.
The least we know this is all coming from Tobi, an untypical sharingan bearer, stockpilling sharingan eyes at his lab somewhere.
As he said at the kage sumit "I like to stockpile good eyes" refering to Sasuke, this gives me the impression that he is without respect to uchihas wich leds me to believe he isn't one either.
Also he has an active sharingan all time as Kakashi, wich further supports it.
At the fight against Konan I think, he states that he is the second sage of the six paths, and that Nagatos was the third, if this is to be true then it sounds to me as if Tobi has a long story, way back to Rikudos time.
The think is Tobi just knows too much about everything, he has shown that he is a mastermanipulator and without doubt the most ambitiouness, independent of time.
Even Minato took him very serious on hos words, he sacrified his life in thrust that his child was the child of proffecy, wich is destined to face of against Tobi.
This all has led me to believe, that Tobi is in fact one of the sons of sage of the six paths, none other than the younger son.
Yes a senju, an undoubtly smart one that even fooled Rikudo or maybe he lied.:hypertobi:
This all comes from the time Tobi spoke with Naruto where he told about the two brothers, and about the older brother getting mad because he wasn't chosen by Rikudo to led.
Tobi has stated that he is weak, that he lost his powers somehow?
This is what I think happened.
1.
The younger son was chosen to led by Rikudo, but the younger brother had evil intentions, he was a mastermanipulator that even fooled his father.
After the death of their father, the younger brother sought to reign under his definition of love wich was to control all people somehow.
This was the reason the older brother was mad that he was chosen, and he fought against him, and gave him severe damage so that he would lose most of his powers, and after that he himselft died, resulting in the younger getting obsessed with the powers of the uchihas.
2.
The older brother was rightfully chosen to led, resulting in the younger brother after Rikudos death, to want the led. This would assume Tobi lied when he told Naruto that the younger was chosen, but we all know Tobi lies.
So the younger son sought to fight as to achieve all power, and he was in the fight damaged so severe that he lost most of his powers, by the older before he died.
The younger brother was evil to begin with.
Tob himself told the story about the two brothers, he said the younger brother believed in love, and the older in strenght.
Tobi is talking about love here!
he believes his solution the moon eye plan is the final solution, his definition of peace.
Also we have only seen the senju perform time space jutsu "second hokage" as Tobi seem to master, the senju.
The reason he lives this long is because he was blessed with the power of rikudos body, a very long lifespan, and given he was the very first senju also.
And if you look at the picture, the younger brother has the same hair as Tobi
and also the eyes look much alike.
This is what I believe, what do you guys think?
This is somethin I have been thinking off aside from the numerous theories about Tobi. Correct me if anything, I have been thinking about this.
Tobi at the kage summit, told about the ten tails and sage of the sixth paths story?
He said that only those with sharingan and rinnegan are able to read the stone tablet at wich the uchihas posesses.
A rinnegan bearer would be able to understand the whole tablet, about ten tails and sage og the six paths.
But a sharingan bearer would only understand some?
As Tobi currently wasn't a rinnegan bearer, how then is he able to know the whole story?
We saw edo Madara achieve the rinnegan, wich came as a big suprise, but he testified that it occured before his death against Hashirama.
So there would be no way he would have read the stone tablet, and informed Tobi about it.
Or maybe Tobi took Madaras rinnegan after he died and read the stone tablet, then took em off and put em on Nagato, sounds very unlikely to me.
The least we know this is all coming from Tobi, an untypical sharingan bearer, stockpilling sharingan eyes at his lab somewhere.
As he said at the kage sumit "I like to stockpile good eyes" refering to Sasuke, this gives me the impression that he is without respect to uchihas wich leds me to believe he isn't one either.
Also he has an active sharingan all time as Kakashi, wich further supports it.
At the fight against Konan I think, he states that he is the second sage of the six paths, and that Nagatos was the third, if this is to be true then it sounds to me as if Tobi has a long story, way back to Rikudos time.
The think is Tobi just knows too much about everything, he has shown that he is a mastermanipulator and without doubt the most ambitiouness, independent of time.
Even Minato took him very serious on hos words, he sacrified his life in thrust that his child was the child of proffecy, wich is destined to face of against Tobi.
This all has led me to believe, that Tobi is in fact one of the sons of sage of the six paths, none other than the younger son.
Yes a senju, an undoubtly smart one that even fooled Rikudo or maybe he lied.:hypertobi:
This all comes from the time Tobi spoke with Naruto where he told about the two brothers, and about the older brother getting mad because he wasn't chosen by Rikudo to led.
Tobi has stated that he is weak, that he lost his powers somehow?
This is what I think happened.
1.
The younger son was chosen to led by Rikudo, but the younger brother had evil intentions, he was a mastermanipulator that even fooled his father.
After the death of their father, the younger brother sought to reign under his definition of love wich was to control all people somehow.
This was the reason the older brother was mad that he was chosen, and he fought against him, and gave him severe damage so that he would lose most of his powers, and after that he himselft died, resulting in the younger getting obsessed with the powers of the uchihas.
2.
The older brother was rightfully chosen to led, resulting in the younger brother after Rikudos death, to want the led. This would assume Tobi lied when he told Naruto that the younger was chosen, but we all know Tobi lies.
So the younger son sought to fight as to achieve all power, and he was in the fight damaged so severe that he lost most of his powers, by the older before he died.
The younger brother was evil to begin with.
Tob himself told the story about the two brothers, he said the younger brother believed in love, and the older in strenght.
Tobi is talking about love here!
he believes his solution the moon eye plan is the final solution, his definition of peace.
Also we have only seen the senju perform time space jutsu "second hokage" as Tobi seem to master, the senju.
The reason he lives this long is because he was blessed with the power of rikudos body, a very long lifespan, and given he was the very first senju also.
And if you look at the picture, the younger brother has the same hair as Tobi
and also the eyes look much alike.
This is what I believe, what do you guys think?
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