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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

This is probably the best image of Madara we've got;
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Now in a sense he looks like an older Naruto, but I doubt that's an older Naruto to be honest. He does have some creases like Itachi, and Itachi's father Fugaku. Are there some reasons why it might be Fugaku? Yes. Are we going to be able to tell if it is or not before Kishi tells us? Hell no. There's just too little to go on. It's a good theory tho', so I'll give you credit for that. It's not another... "Oh! it's Obito" one.. And yes he does look like Obito in a sense, but then he looks like Danzou too. Looks can be deceiving obviously. Also, it would make sense for Itachi to not want Sasuke to know that Tobi is THEIR FATHER.
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

Why?

1.You guys think he died,but really this was a zetsu clone.Itachi couldn't notice the difference in their chakra and thought it was his father. Same way zetsu replaced Kisame when he was fighting bee, the body didn't change back to zetsu's form for a long time.


2.He cares about sasuke too much, he was even going to show his face to him. Why would he show it to sasuke? because only he would recognize it.


3.He helped itachi kill the uchiha clan because he cared too much about itachi and knew he couldn't handle the mission by himself and would most likely die.

4.He knew exactly when naruto was about to be born because Kushina told his wife and of course she told him that this was his chance.

5.He fits the age

6.He was the leader of the uchiha's and father of itachi he has to be strong as hell

This is just my theory, so don't judge me yo
This is a good theory...But no proof. I can only see assumptions. I don't think speculations is enough to reveal who Tobi is. But this is possible...The Uchiha were planning a coup de tat and they were blamed for the Nine-Tails attacking, so it could have been Fugaku. Kishi is unpredictable with characters...
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

i like these 2 theories, and this is other one:
i guess tobi is uchiha obito
same hair style
right eye sharingan and the left is with kakashi (the left eye which he lose with isanagi may be stoled from some one)

i dont know....may be
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

i agree and have thought this for a while, but not because of any evidence just because of how it fits naturaly in with the So6P two sons progression throughout the generations......

so far we know that the last generation to battle was Hashirama and Madara... but what after that? we know nothing except for now that Naruto and Sasuke are the ones who have taken on the roles of "Eyes" and "Body"

so in the simplest way, that would mean you go back up from those two and start tracing back

Naruto>Minato>??????>Hashirama
Sasuke>Fugaku>?????>Madara

is there a link we just have not found out yet? or does the third link not exist, and are Fugaku and Minato directly related to Hashirama and Madara? dont know, but that is what the easy way would lead too. maybee kishi wants us to "over" think things and miss the obvious... who knows...

all i know is, Minato has played a huge role so far, but Sasuke's father has just been left in the wind.... i mean he must of been a bad a to be in the position he was in, and to have two sons with that much talent. I think he
is was the one who attacked the village, and is the missing link.

my thoughts.
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

Naruto>Minato>??????>Hashirama
Sasuke>Fugaku>?????>Madara
Would be hard since Kushina, and Fugaku's wife were good friends. But your point is a good one. Who is in between Madara, and Hashirama? Not so much on the Senju side of things, that could've been anyone, but not all the Uchiha had that much of a bone to pick with the rest of Konoha.
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

Fugaku was planning the coup against konohA. If he lived his son he would've just called it off and fixed it as opposed to killing off the clan. Plus in the flashback the masked man had big long hair and fugaku has short hair. I personally find this theory dumb
 

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Re: I think Fugaku Uchiha is Tobi

Fugaku was planning the coup against konohA. If he lived his son he would've just called it off and fixed it as opposed to killing off the clan. Plus in the flashback the masked man had big long hair and fugaku has short hair. I personally find this theory dumb
Theory debunked. The man can't put on a mask and have long hair then go back to his family and have short ass hair
 
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Re: Kagami Uchiha is Tobi, Madara Uchiha isn't

Izuna didn't die when Madara took his eyes. He kept fighting as a blind shinobi and died on the battlefield. Had a big fancy funeral. Madara got all pissed cause his brother didn't have to die, because shortly after the wars ended.
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha is Tobi, Madara Uchiha isn't

I just find it hard to believe that Kishi would make the final villain someone who's received two panels in the entire manga, and we have no information on him whatsoever
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha is Tobi, Madara Uchiha isn't

ya i doubt at this point, tobi would be somebody we havnt seen,

tobi has found knowledge of history of the leaf village and uchiha's
 
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Possibilities for the True identity of Tobi

Hello guys, just wanted to hear some thoughts about who Tobi could be. I've come up with lots and have thought of the reasons why it couldn't be, so I've eliminated most of them and have come down to two solid conclusions on who it is. I had others but these seemed to interest me the most. Also, i'm sorry if something like this has been posted. Now that we have more a bit more information i wanted to know if anyone has changed their mind on who they originally thought he was.

1) I had a thought that it could be Shisui Uchiha, dear friend of Itachi. Seeing that Shisui's eye was used on the crow Itachi placed within Naruto then only to be burned by Amaterasu and the other eye being used by Danzo, crushed before death. I came to take that back. Although his eyes were taken does not mean Tobi could have been given the eyes of someone more powerful, but i digress.

2) I came to believe that Tobi was just a embodied form of chakra just by thinking of who uses Rinnegan. There is a pattern in the users. Since the sage gave his eyes to one son and body to the other he split his power. But only when the two are back together can his power be restored.

Nagato who is relative to Senju through the Uzumaki tribe and was given the eyes according to Tobi.

Adding to that i made a prediction that Madara got his Rinnegan while he was dying from the attack that Hashirama a Senju gave him. He had to have absorbed some of his DNA as he was dying, just a thought.

This continues to my second prediction on who Tobi is. This is a bit far fetched but it's very plausible considering evidence. While Madara was dying he used the Sage's (Rinnegan) power to create a life form of complete Chakra, Tobi. Tobi was also programmed to use the Rinnegan eyes and embedded them in a Senju compatible body (Nagato).

Evidence:
1- Tobi said that Nagato's eyes were really his. Tobi also pointed out that Nagato was suppose to use the ressurrection technique on "Him" (Madara). I believe Tobi is somehow a clone either from Charkra or a clone created from Zetsu similar to the clones (Itachi and Kisame) made of other Akatsuki's. Also when Tobi fought Fu and Torune he had to break his arm off so the minibugs didn't kill him. His arm looked just like a white Zetsu.

2- Madara when brought back through edo Tensei said something about the brat Nagato finally did it (brought him back).

3- When Madara recognized that Kabuto found his secret it's because Kabuto realized that Senju and Uchiha blood needed to be mixed for the Rinnegan and that explains when he looked at his chest (he has Senju inplant). That's when he went crazy showing off the Rinnegan's and Senju's powers. Again a theory, please do not take this to heart.

3) My final thought on who Tobi could be, is a bit odd and highly unlikely but by far is one of my favorites due to the fact that it will bring a lot of story and background to the manga. I had a thought that it is, the Original Uchiha. The Elder son of Rikudou Sennin. Now, it sounds impossible but i have some suggestions on why it could be. Obviously the elder son hated his younger brother for not being chosen to lead. I feel that over years of hatred and fighting his eyes evolved even higher than Rinnegan and had created the technique of Immortality, let's say this jutsu is called.. Kami no me, translation, God's Eyes.

Evidence - As i state the proof i have, i will also explain why it cannot be characters stated by others. For one. Although many people wish it to be, it cannot and will never be Obito Uchiha, reason? In chapter 501, where Kushina, is telling Naruto of what happened the day they she was killed and Minato sealed by dead demon consuming seal.



Tobi, or who we believe is Tobi. Is there, fighting Minato during this time period. At this time period for those who didn't know. Kakashi, Obito and Rin were Minato's students, how is it possible that Obito who is alive at this point, is changed into a Sharingan Master who's age not determined but seen as older can take on The Yellow Flash....this is fact.
Another reason why i believe Tobi is the older son of Rikudou Sennin is because of his knowledge of the Moon Technique. When the Rikudou Sennin was at the point of death as he split his abilities to his sons, it is also known that he hurled the rest of his abilities into the skies, forming the moon. Coincidence or not Tobi wanting to use the moon to control everyone and the moon being the remains of Rikudou Sennin's powers came off as suspicious to myself. Though i have had doubts on this one reason being that when Kabuto first met with Tobi, he showcases his powers of resurrection by showing Tobi the dead Akatsuki. Yet as a finale he shows him a coffin us the reader cannot see, now to be confirmed was Madara, then i thought to myself why would Tobi if it were the Sennin's older son, be at all nervous of this. And again i thought he wasn't nervous he was shocked that Kabuto had the power to this, and again I digress.

Thank you in advance to those who really read all this thoroughly and please, let me know some mistakes if any, your thoughts. Anything i may have missed. I welcome all thought but please be reasonable with them. Again i'm glad to be part of the Base and i hope by this i have displayed that even someone as new as myself has knowledge of those of more experience. Much appreciated.
 

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Re: Possibilities for the True identity of Tobi

one he didn't die fighting the first hokage and second if he did have zetsu arm then it would have turned into a tree when naruto head butted him.
 
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Re: Possibilities for the True identity of Tobi

Oh, thank you for reminding me. I also had a simple thought that Tobi could indeed just be a character of unknown origin and had hatred enough to try to take over the world. So, thank you for that. Many possibilities are floating around and i for one cannot wait until it is revealed. On the other side i am worried of who it could be due to the fact that once he is unmasked people on NB will go into even further heated debate
 
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