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izuna was not rived with his eyes back .... he took someone sharingan that has similar power to kakashi sharingan .... and he has now the rinnegan from nagato
Ps. i belive ngato has rinnegan from madara Uchiha
NewNarrutoFans
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TOBI is UZUMAKI
Tobi is taking revenge because his uzumaki clan village Uzushiogakure was destroyed in war..
so now it clear tht the fite will be like this
tobi(whoever he would be) as uzumaki vs naruto uzumaki and
sasuke uchiha vs madara uchiha
but again one problem here as toad sage predicted tht naruto would be fiting a young person with strong eye..... or
maybe it will be like friendly fite between sasuke and naruto
Tobi is taking revenge because his uzumaki clan village Uzushiogakure was destroyed in war..
so now it clear tht the fite will be like this
tobi(whoever he would be) as uzumaki vs naruto uzumaki and
sasuke uchiha vs madara uchiha
but again one problem here as toad sage predicted tht naruto would be fiting a young person with strong eye..... or
maybe it will be like friendly fite between sasuke and naruto
Yea only Kishi knows for sure, but yea that gesture was just for laughs. I'm still going with Danzou & Obito on this 1. & I think Danzou's pretty special, he has a connection\done something very memorable to everybody that's relevant at the moment; Itachi, Sasuke, Kabuto, Orochimaru, etc....
That someone would be Obitoalexu9696 said:
You do know the Uzumaki destroyed themselves? Right? It was a civil war chief....NewNarrutoFans said:
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NewNarrutoFans
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no bro .... wikia clearly says it a shinobi world war which cause the destruction of Uzushiogakure, and the rest of the Land of Whirlpools....
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matrixhutner
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we just need a nose and a mouth does anyone have photoshop to put all the pieces together Does this help anyone?
lower part of his face
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Your uchiha kagami theory isnt new i heard it before. i wouldnt call it dumb either. I feel like there is alot of loopholes with that theory because There is very little mentioned about kagami that it is difficult to be certain. Tobirama actually supported the uchiha clan making them more involved in konoha military police force he established. I dont see why uchiha such as kagami would be against him or feel tobirama plan responsible for hatred toward senju. Only when danzo black ops started to interfere, the uchiha lost trust and brought more hatred. I think you failed to explain clearly why Uchiha like kagami would have hated for both senju and uchiha. Uchiha izuna would be more logical in that sense cause uchiha clan abandoned his brother and was senju responsible for his brother defeat. So would have hatred toward both clans.
Re: Tobi isn't a Senju
in the fight with the 4th hokage.... tobi was trying to grab him and in fact almost did as he claimed he got him! i would have to say that it is a requirement for the technique to work....but u may be right saying tobi doesnt have to touch someone...tho if he deosnt his tech would fail. so he always make sure he grabs ahold....which makes it a requirement for success
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Obito:
The only evidence they have is kakashi has left sharingan and Tobi has right so it has to be Obito. Plus Tobi is just Obito but subtract an O. Tobi has both eyes -_- During his fight with Konan his mask broke and you got to see both eyes. Obito would have been a child when Tobi fought the fourth hokage and controlled the nine tails. Obito wasn't that tough, in that short time he climbed up to fourth Hokage level? No.
Kagami:
The only evidence is he was on the same team and Danzou, Saratobi, and the second hokage. Oh yeah and there hair is the same. We know nothing of his personality, his morals, or what he was like. That theory is a stretch but its better than most ive heard.
Izuna:
I think it could be possible. I know the wiki says he died. He could have taken another Uchiha's eyes. Or when Madara died he could have went to his body and took his eyes. Afterall Itachi's eyes were implanted into Sasuke and when Itachi was revived he had his eyes.
Shisui:
This was Itachi's mentor. You would think a mentor and his student would have the same morals. Btw if it was the Tobi would be blind. One of Shisui's eyes was with Itachi which he destroyed after using it to release himself from the Edo Tensei (Impure World Resurrection), and the other Danzou had and used it at the five kage summit but destroyed it before he died so Tobi couldn't have it.
Madara Uchiha:
Yeah Madara was revived using Edo Tensei, therefore Madara had to have been dead so couldn't be him. Might be a some sort of clone, idk.
I personally believe he is an Izanagi creation. Izanagi was a technique used by the Sage of the Six Paths to create life. Other forms have been used by Danzou and Tobi to alter reality so they don't die, but when they did it, their eye closed for good. The Sage's eye never closed. Maybe when Madara unlocked the Rinnegan during his fight with the first hokage, he unlocked the ability to do Izanagi without his eye closing. Madara's chakra being drastically lowered due to the fight, knows he is gonna lose so creates Tobi so he can still continue with his work and later be brought back. Although Madara was surprised he was brought back by Kabuto. Tobi said he was nobody, maybe he was right.
The only evidence they have is kakashi has left sharingan and Tobi has right so it has to be Obito. Plus Tobi is just Obito but subtract an O. Tobi has both eyes -_- During his fight with Konan his mask broke and you got to see both eyes. Obito would have been a child when Tobi fought the fourth hokage and controlled the nine tails. Obito wasn't that tough, in that short time he climbed up to fourth Hokage level? No.
Kagami:
The only evidence is he was on the same team and Danzou, Saratobi, and the second hokage. Oh yeah and there hair is the same. We know nothing of his personality, his morals, or what he was like. That theory is a stretch but its better than most ive heard.
Izuna:
I think it could be possible. I know the wiki says he died. He could have taken another Uchiha's eyes. Or when Madara died he could have went to his body and took his eyes. Afterall Itachi's eyes were implanted into Sasuke and when Itachi was revived he had his eyes.
Shisui:
This was Itachi's mentor. You would think a mentor and his student would have the same morals. Btw if it was the Tobi would be blind. One of Shisui's eyes was with Itachi which he destroyed after using it to release himself from the Edo Tensei (Impure World Resurrection), and the other Danzou had and used it at the five kage summit but destroyed it before he died so Tobi couldn't have it.
Madara Uchiha:
Yeah Madara was revived using Edo Tensei, therefore Madara had to have been dead so couldn't be him. Might be a some sort of clone, idk.
I personally believe he is an Izanagi creation. Izanagi was a technique used by the Sage of the Six Paths to create life. Other forms have been used by Danzou and Tobi to alter reality so they don't die, but when they did it, their eye closed for good. The Sage's eye never closed. Maybe when Madara unlocked the Rinnegan during his fight with the first hokage, he unlocked the ability to do Izanagi without his eye closing. Madara's chakra being drastically lowered due to the fight, knows he is gonna lose so creates Tobi so he can still continue with his work and later be brought back. Although Madara was surprised he was brought back by Kabuto. Tobi said he was nobody, maybe he was right.
SilverSlick
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Omg, that's what I've been saying this whole time. Tobi and Izuna have the same eyes!
6 Paths of Pain
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This obito theory is stupid most logical is izuna but could he have taken sum fodder uchiha with the s/t sharingan?if he wasnt a senju ,uchiha , i think uzumakis have high chakra he wouldnt be able to use his sharingan like he is right now
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Re: Tobi is actually the jubi (Ten tails)
I came up with an idea that kinda piggybacks on your idea. Tobi is the Jubi but he is using the body of the So6P as his body. We know that the Jubi's body was trapped inside or became the moon. His chakra was divided into the Tailed beasts. The only thing left of the Jubi is his will, his mind. As we saw with Kurama, even with no chakra left was able to create a massive beast bomb. My idea is that after the Sage died, the Juubi was strong enough to use the Sage's body to become whole again. In a sense, the juubi is using the Sage like one of Pain's bodies.
I came up with an idea that kinda piggybacks on your idea. Tobi is the Jubi but he is using the body of the So6P as his body. We know that the Jubi's body was trapped inside or became the moon. His chakra was divided into the Tailed beasts. The only thing left of the Jubi is his will, his mind. As we saw with Kurama, even with no chakra left was able to create a massive beast bomb. My idea is that after the Sage died, the Juubi was strong enough to use the Sage's body to become whole again. In a sense, the juubi is using the Sage like one of Pain's bodies.
Minatoboss94
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sorry dude but that does not make any sense. first of all the body of the ten tails is sealed to the moon, or something like that. and the 10 tails needs all the other beasts together to be brought back. i beilieve tobi is more likely to be someone in the 3 sannin day. in the series it shows lots of flashbacks basically showing that this was a plan tobi has been working on for years.
You guys are clearly leaving out a vital piec of information. Remember when edo madara asked himself, (Does he also know about our plan), he was thinking if kabuto knew about THEIR, he did say OUR plan, which goes to imply that madara was a part of this plan from the start. also meaning that this plan would of had to be devised with someone from his time of life, like izuna. Also, it was never stated when or where exactly that madara died, all we know for sure is that he did NOT die in the battle with senju, he ESCAPED. Could it not be possible that he stole the DNA which he said he did, and went back to his brother and had his eyes with EMS and newly awakened rennigan medically transplanted back into izuna before dying. I believe for major reasons that tobi is izuna, but the main reason being that madara acknowledged tobi as his partner, and is partner would have to be someone close to him that he trusted and also lived in his same time era, only option i am thinking is izuna. Plz stop saying obito people, thats just ridiculous, and i dont think even if kagami lived in madaras era that madara would trust him. We know that the DNA was stolen from senju during the fight, the fact that tobi has it has to mean it was passed unto him by madara before he died, madara would not give that DNA to kagami, best logical choice is izuna, i see no other option here, but like i said, keep in mind, madara acknowledged that he was part of this plan all along and he has a partner, who else would madara trust to be his partner, it was said all the uchiha turned their backs on him, except....IZUNA.
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Izuna's height: 174.8 cm
Izuna's weight: 55.9 kg
Tobi's height: 175 cm
Tobi's weight: 55.9 kg
Where did we get most of our information about Izuna from? Tobi.
This is more than enough info for me to believe that Tobi is Izuna.
Edit: the picture isn't working anymore, but if you go to the previous page, it'll show the same pic.
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The Drunken kage
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This would actually explain why Tobi states at the 5 kage summit that he "can't attack you (the kage's)" because "you could say that I'm a shadow of my true/former self."
I was skeptical at first, but your theory actually makes sense!
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I was skeptical at first, but your theory actually makes sense!
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