Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[alikabok]

Re: The Tobito Theories have FINALLY come to an end!!

Me to Obito: "Why didn't you helped/saved Rin then if you were alive and have S/T jutsu? Your best friend letting your crush die is quite a poor excuse for a world war."

Anyway, I can't friggin wait for next week's chapter. Why is he elusive to his identity even after it being revealed, how when and whats.

 

[psukkar]

Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

I cant belive this, kishi actuially made tobi obito.

This is such a poor way for tobi to end his reign as the one of the major villains, speechless just speechless.

The seemly very knowledgable character in the series which is meant to show off ur wisdom with age and experiences is reduced to merely kahashi/Gai class generation?

Some may not understand why this is problem, let me explain.


Its very important for the main villains in the story to be from a old generation this allows them to challege the protoanist's ideology realisticly due to their vast experiences. Having simple goals of modivation for tobi now(because rin died,almost fell of my chair and broke my neck) has killed the character off plot wise. Now Tobi will be killed of soon due his simple ideology, simular to Nagato.

Actually nagato had better reasons for changing at least he was betrayed by the harshness of the shinobi world. Also nagato is older than tobi by at least 10 years, just saying.


So obviosly everything obito knows AND HAS ACCESS TO(his powers) is merely all by madara.

Madara is the final villain of the story no doubt about it after tobi's noob reasons for living untill now. Also orocihmaru will play a big role as a villain bigger than Tobi, because orocihmaru isnt a noob but a legend.

Also would like to meation orocihmaru even older than tobi and nagato and was always a more intresting character than tobi anyway. Tobi could have been intresting but kishi decided to make him a recinated child with noob revenge issues which then proceeds to blame everyone else in the world and wants to wipe everyone out.

So tobi is now the king of noobs, sasuke is 2nd but he is droping fast due to his entilement from itachi and orocihmaru, at least sasuke is still soul searching.

I mean seriosuly after all that carefull planning over the past 20 years all to just avenge rin? OMG kishi where do u get this stuff from?


Thank the lord for hasihrama,madara and the older generation kages presented in the manga.

 

[Kirikoe]

Re: Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

didnt read... but the bits i did read all i can say is .... stop ur b*tching!

 

[dominicansharingan]

Re: Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

Agree can't wait till Sasuke flexes on him, his life will be over!

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

Re: Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

I cant belive this, kishi actuially made tobi obito.

This is such a poor way for tobi to end his reign as the one of the major villains, speechless just speechless.

The seemly very knowledgable character in the series which is meant to show off ur wisdom with age and experiences is reduced to merely kahashi/Gai class generation?

Some may not understand why this is problem, let me explain.


Its very important for the main villains in the story to be from a old generation this allows them to challege the protoanist's ideology realisticly due to their vast experiences. Having simple goals of modivation for tobi now(because rin died,almost fell of my chair and broke my neck) has killed the character off plot wise. Now Tobi will be killed of soon due his simple ideology, simular to Nagato.

Actually nagato had better reasons for changing at least he was betrayed by the harshness of the shinobi world. Also nagato is older than tobi by at least 10 years, just saying.


So obviosly everything obito knows AND HAS ACCESS TO(his powers) is merely all by madara.

Madara is the final villain of the story no doubt about it after tobi's noob reasons for living untill now. Also orocihmaru will play a big role as a villain bigger than Tobi, because orocihmaru isnt a noob but a legend.

Also would like to meation orocihmaru even older than tobi and nagato and was always a more intresting character than tobi anyway. Tobi could have been intresting but kishi decided to make him a recinated child with noob revenge issues which then proceeds to blame everyone else in the world and wants to wipe everyone out.

So tobi is now the king of noobs, sasuke is 2nd but he is droping fast due to his entilement from itachi and orocihmaru, at least sasuke is still soul searching.

almost wish this did happen so that we wouldn't have to hear another person complaining about it.. :sy:

 

[Gooner4life]

Re: Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

Hold on, I'm sure that isn't the sole reason, he just took a chance to mind**** Kakashi, I mean, he hates him for that very reason, I'm positive that isn't all of it.

 

[shadowanitez]

Re: The Tobito Theories have FINALLY come to an end!!

OR OR OR!... Obito is madara son!!! LOL

 

[Lightning Release]

Re: The Tobito Theories have FINALLY come to an end!!

Unfortunately they STILL haven't come to an end.. People are still making "Tobi may not be Obito" threads. It'll never end... People are too in-denial.

 

[TicrabeX]

Chapter 600: Nice explanation Kishi !!!... :sy:

 

[Bloodytaste]

Re: Why Obito still could not be Obito(proof)

madara just did it like Barney Stinson when he wants to hook up a girl or Ted, first negative compliments(He is a good Uchiha, who failed, showing him Rins death), then nice eye contact(lololol sharingan), then he touches him sometimes to get more personal(hugs him).
And Ted Mosby got into it within 2 Days, so why won't Obito? Madara is Awesome & Legendary Deal with it, and stop this denial attitude, why can't people just relax and go with kishi? If he changes obito to be somone else in his body it will be, if not then not, but right now we have our proofs so as naruto would say, belive it!~

 

[psukkar]

Re: Tobi/Obito, The king of noobs

didnt read... but the bits i did read all i can say is .... stop ur b*tching!

lol u did read it because u knew i was bitching.

And u enjoyed it too. Thanks for the read.

almost wish this did happen so that we wouldn't have to hear another person complaining about it.. :sy:

u should be more animated, if u just take things the way they are, nothing will change for the better. that a lession for u kids out there.

Hold on, I'm sure that isn't the sole reason, he just took a chance to mind**** Kakashi, I mean, he hates him for that very reason, I'm positive that isn't all of it.

but this is the reason tobi said why he waited so long to carry out his plans. He was just telling us all his plans over the past 20 years were just motivated because his girlfirend died.

 

[what a drag]

Obito might have killed RIN!!!

Now that we knew that Obito survived that rock, what if Obito and Rin secretly meeting each other and Obito(this obviously after the supposed Obito's death) is telling Rin what's his plan together with Madara(Madara and Obito knew each other) and somehow, somewhere down the line Rin was against this plan and Madara ordered to kill Rin by Obito to gain the MS, obviously Rin will not go out without Kakashi because they are still teammate...

Obito then somehow attacked Rin now with a Mask or something in his face to hide his identity...Obito succeed with the plan and Kakashi failed to protect her but both of them gains MS....

Just a thought...

 

[Imm0rtal bAstard]

Re: Tobi is still so not Obito

Too much confusion pertaining Tobi's answers to Kakashi and Gai's questions haha. That conjo is still hiding something!:ice:

You're right.

 

[devilking123]

Re: Obito might have killed RIN!!!

no...

 

[dominicansharingan]

Re: Obito might have killed RIN!!!

I think that too, but Sasuke will kill Obito for his non-sense

 

[moongem]

Re: Obito might have killed RIN!!!

"You had one job Kakashi. Protect Rin."
-later-

"From me!!!-
-kills her-

-now-
Dafuq Kakashi? You let my Rin die?! I'mma take over da world! Cause fu*k logic!

 

[Unbiased]

Orochimaru was a better villain the Tobi

Orochimaru ambitions were to

1: Learn all the jutsu's in the end
2: Immortality
3: Crush the 5 major villages (killed kazekage and hokage)
4: Obtain the sharingan (and presumably the rinnegan)

Tobi
1: Create a world of an infinite genjutsu


Orochimaru's reasons

1: His parents had an affect on him when they died
2: He had a cruel outlook on life
3: That snake shedding he saw with hiruzen influenced his ambitions


Tobi's reasons.

1: Rin died

Orochimaru was always the creepy one who even if he isn't as powerful as lets say madara, will always be remembered as the villain that everyone feared. No one dared to cross his path, even the akatsuki couldn't kill him. Matter of fact even sasuke attributed his death to the fact that he was in a sick state. Its near impossible to kill him since he can just come out of cursed seals. The man is the definition of frightening. While Obito on the other hand......

Someone I loved died, now its time to ruin the world.

I'm not a tobi=obito hater, I just wish it was more dramatic and more reason was given as to why he wants to take over the world. Orochimaru's story was rather touching as his parents died and he feared death.

 

[what a drag]

Re: Obito might have killed RIN!!!

no...

can you explain why?

 

[H4wk]

How Obito and Madara are related

All of my fellow naruto lovers. I ask all of you to open your minds and prepare to be blown away.

Now is it just me or has every generation in naruto had a uchiha that has turned evil? Lets think here.

Madara- 1st hokage generation
Obito- kakshi generation
Sasuke- naruto generation

If you noticed i left one generation out. The third hokages generation. I believe that Kagami went evil. (i just got off work and am tired so i dont want to get all of the pages to provide proof). But when tobi attacked the village there is the page where everyone is present who was with the 2nd hokage before he died. Kagami isn't with them.

Now this is how i think obito and Madara are related. Kagami is madara's son. I mean who else is there better to watch over the son of the biggest threat of the village then the 2nd hokage since the first had already passed away i presume. I cant think of anyone. Now also think that Obito had a younger brother. Shuisi, the reason i think this is because i think each pair of uchiha ever shown has had a brother that take different pathes. One goes good the other evil. Madara went evil, Izuna gave his eye's to his brother (which would consider him loyal and faithful both good characteristics). Itachi we all know was a good guy, sasuke not so much. Now i believe Obito was truely good until (however he survived idk) found out rin had died. Now knowing that obito lived wouldnt he try to contact his little brother? i figure that he wanted shuisi's eyes in the end. Remember him trying to get it from danzo? well who better to give his eye's to then danzo (someone that will destroy it at all cost's). while giving the other to itachi who he knew would also protect it with his life. I think obito learned everything about the sharigan because of either madara or kagami. I think kagami had two son's Obito and Shuisi, because all uchiha's have came in pairs as brother's thus far. That could also explain why when tobi is telling sasuke about how madara was given his brother's eyes he grasped his arm (thats why everyone assumed he was izuna) however i think its either a) he was mad he gave kakashi his eye. or b) he wouldn't ever be able to get his hands on his own brothers eye's. anyways like i said i just got off work its 5:30 a.m and im tired im sorry this is long and made poorly but i just needed to get this off my mind haha. thanks guys. i hope you enjoy and actually understand my tired rambling.

 

[psukkar]

Re: Orochimaru was a better villain the Tobi

Orochimaru ambitions were to

1: Learn all the jutsu's in the end
2: Immortality
3: Crush the 5 major villages (killed kazekage and hokage)
4: Obtain the sharingan (and presumably the rinnegan)

Tobi
1: Create a world of an infinite genjutsu


Orochimaru's reasons

1: His parents had an affect on him when they died
2: He had a cruel outlook on life
3: That snake shedding he saw with hiruzen influenced his ambitions


Tobi's reasons.

1: Rin died

Orochimaru was always the creepy one who even if he isn't as powerful as lets say madara, will always be remembered as the villain that everyone feared. No one dared to cross his path, even the akatsuki couldn't kill him. Matter of fact even sasuke attributed his death to the fact that he was in a sick state. Its near impossible to kill him since he can just come out of cursed seals. The man is the definition of frightening. While Obito on the other hand......

Someone I loved died, now its time to ruin the world.

I'm not a tobi=obito hater, I just wish it was more dramatic and more reason was given as to why he wants to take over the world. Orochimaru's story was rather touching as his parents died and he feared death.

I agree with title, no need to read the rest of thread.