Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[Pain saga]

Thats not possible.. Nagato's parents were ordinary people and they were not ninjas..

 

[samuel anomah larbi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

i think there is must be more to this, i mean how can tobi be obito

 

[Amelius]

Thats not possible.. Nagato's parents were ordinary people and they were not ninjas..

Wrong, at least one of them was an Uzumaki!

 

[Amelius]

one of the many things that need to be explained....

also... since Obito survived and he is an Uchiha, this means Sasuke is not the only survivor, and maybe that if Kakashi, Guy and Naruto try to kill him they are by extension aiding in the Uchiha extermination? xd

I believe he said "You" because he saw the Sharingan and that reminds him of Madara, He also may have felt the same "hatred" from Tobi/Obito that he just assumed it was someone he knew. Perhaps!

 

[Rinneganist]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

great chapter, i laugh in the faces of those that pretended as if they know it all and disqualified Obito as a tobi candidate. Lol
now i forsee 3 or 4 more chapters of what happened to Obito, remember what happened during the Kabuto vs Uchiha brothers fight, 4 boring weeks of Kabuto's history that no ome was interested in.
The same could happen, only that this tym it Obito/Tobi.

 

[serpiente clan]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

i willl said this tobi was not goin to be obitobut kishi have i dream and then he make tobi, obito....

ihink kishi will make madara and orochimaru the new alias

 

[Rinneganist]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Kakashi was about 4 to 6 years younger than Obito. Remember Kakashi graduated from the academy at 5. Most people graduate at 12, even geniuses like Sasuke and Neji graduated at around 12.

Teams are chosen from academy graduates, so they got grouped after the academy, hence it doesnt mean they were the same age. Obito was never stated to be a genius, so he could have graduated at 12, when Kakashi graduated at 6.

Meaning he attacked the Village at about 20.

This makes sense.

 

[YumBadgerKebabs]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

The lack of faith in good ol' Kishi is astonishing. As you can tell from my post count I'm new here, but I came here because of the amazing manga that he has created. The man's a genius, he's produced many Naruto chapters that have been fantastic plot-wise and visually. Have faith in him, he's been doing Naruto for 15 years and has got the ability to produce a brilliant explanation for all of the recent happenings in regards to Obito/Tobi. You gotta have faith in him guys!

 

[jt1891]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

it's in the databooks! databooks are made by the mangaka...

Exactly. Kakashi was 14 during the Nine-Tails' attack according to the databooks written by Kishimoto himself. Of course, that doesn't mean much anymore, since Kishi threw them out with this newest chapter. Kakashi's age when he was promoted to Chuunin is the most prominent discrepancy, but there are also several people in Kakashi/Rin/Obito's class who are, according to databook, either years older or years younger. Namely, Namiashi Raido (Who is 5 Years older than Kakashi), Gekko Hayate (Who was 4 years younger), and Yamashiro Aoba (Who was 4 years older).

So while the official timeline established by the databooks does indicate that Obito would have only been 14 at the time, given that Kishi has thrown it out the window with 599 it's almost irrelevant.

 

[Amelius]

my guess

but @ Memoria your sig...

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what if Madara is Nagatos dad? wont this make everthin omgosh thats where he got the rinnegan... a mixture of Uchiha and uzumaki...Tobi as Madara said i gave him this eyes...maybe because madara is something like his father? This would be a great solution how to explain the timeline....

The flaw I see in that theory is one of nagato's Parents was an Uzumaki, and they had close ties with the Leaf village and knew very well who Madara was and how he abandoned the village. Unlikely one of them would have mated with him.... not saying impossible though! Also it was shown that nagatos parents were murdered in front of him...

 

[mabanae]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

What if Obito is from a different time?
He could master Space time ninjutsu in the future and goin back win naruto was born. That would give him about 16 to 17 yrs to master space time ninjustus.
That also how he know so much.

yes maybe time stops or slows in his dimension , and he had time to train .
and maybe he can teleport there without his ms .

maybe madara trained him .

there is endless possibilities , maybe only the body is obito , and part of his memory .

and we need to know what happened to Rin , that could be a key to all this .

 

[supino]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Exactly. Kakashi was 14 during the Nine-Tails' attack according to the databooks written by Kishimoto himself. Of course, that doesn't mean much anymore, since Kishi threw them out with this newest chapter. Kakashi's age when he was promoted to Chuunin is the most prominent discrepancy, but there are also several people in Kakashi/Rin/Obito's class who are, according to databook, either years older or years younger. Namely, Namiashi Raido (Who is 5 Years older than Kakashi), Gekko Hayate (Who was 4 years younger), and Yamashiro Aoba (Who was 4 years older).

So while the official timeline established by the databooks does indicate that Obito would have only been 14 at the time, given that Kishi has thrown it out the window with 599 it's almost irrelevant.

you know what the problem is when retconing material... that everything could just randomly become irrelevant. personally, my problem is not so much that Obito was 14 at the time, but that apart from Obito's timeline other characters timeline is also affected. unless, kamui has some hax ability... hey, why not. Uchihas are already as it is pwning the world.

 

[Downforwardx]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

good points but the proof is out...manga says tobi is obito...kishi has massive explanations to do

They didn't say for sure. The translation is a bit off on NB. Look at MangaPanda. "Obito?" "The name finally surfaced"obito"".

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

wrong!!

jiraya trained minato after nagato !
that means nagato is much older than minato !
how can obito have given rinnegan to nagato!
minato was obitos sensei!!!!

Wrong !! Jiraya didn't become one of the legendary sanin until he fought hanzo which was after he trained minato & THEN after he trained nagato he found yahiko konan & nagato after he left the village to start the make out series

 

[Armathyx]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Well yeah, databook is outdated by now.

 

[Downforwardx]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

This is how you can tell is someone was an Obito theory basher... Fece it, the hints were there, you just happened to miss them. We were right, you were wrong, end of story... :noc:

Obito theory has been around for the longest time. And it was very easy to find or see. Do you honestly think that the idea that everyone gravitates towards being the most simple and easy theory to find would be the correct one? There has been to many twist that no one has seen.

That would make kishi a really bad author.

 

[Downforwardx]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

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Well what does it say? Did i read Obito...?

Deal with it, 12-year-old Obito fought Minato and controlled Kyuubi.

Read Mangapanda. Then come back.

 

[elxdark]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

oh my god people.........
Tobi is obito, accept it, deal with it, get it whatever but he is obito.
Plot holes? yeah there are so many holes about it, bu can you wait to next weeks instead of making wrong theories or conclusions?

First, Look AT the title : Obito uchiha.
Then read the chapter : about obito uchiha..
Finally see the last page : tobi without his mask, boom.. he looks like obito with scars.

Still don't get it? don't problem dude think about this.
WHY the HELL kishi did a whole chapter about obito? then he showed us tobi without his mask.......................... common sense people please, is not that hard.

Still don't get it? Read it 10102010 times .
Still don't get it? you're a idiot.

I didn't think tobi would be obito but he was obito AND WHAT? I deal with it, it's just a manga come on.
BUT HOW OBITO DID GIVE THE RINNEGAN TO NAGATO?
BUT HOW OBITO DID FIGHT WITH MINATO IF HE WAS 13 YEARS OLD?
BUT HOW...

Can you wait to next week?

please stop these threads already.

Why kishi would waste a whole chapter about obito's memories if we know it already?
Why kishi would waste a whole chapter about obito's memories if we know it already?
Why kishi would waste a whole chapter about obito's memories if we know it already?

 

[KillerbYo]

The Kagami theory could be partly the correct Obito theory, so im still somewhat right. and its still the same theoty since like a year ago.

 

[FireBlade]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Well, in the meanwhile i will believe Obito is the real deal.

And if i may, let me add this crazy theory:

The link between Madara and Obito is Orochimaru.

Let me try to explain it:

The "Edo Tensei" Madara said something about Tobi having a plan.
If the timeline is "incorrect" and Madara and Obito lived in different eras, they could only talk if Madara was ressurrected. And who was the only one who could perform Edo Tensei ? Well, Orochimaru

And besides, Orochimaru might be the "crazy scientist" who worked with Hashirama's DNA and created the white Zetsus (like he did with Danzo)

I know that's just a theory, and a crazy one actually... but i want to believe the "final fight" will be against Orochimaru and that he is the one controlling things on the shadows