Re: Best explanation of why Tobi = Obito; share it!
I like this extended theory, although we have to wait Kishi himself fills all the plot-holes of the storyline. Despite of the controversies, the choice of making Tobi=Obito (or Obito is one of the persons behind Tobi's persona) is somewhat interesting in terms of the grand design of the naruto shippuden series, where in manga it started after Kakashi Gaiden arc.
There should be a deeper meaning on why Kishi put Kakashi Gaiden arc before starting the naruto shippuden. With this, probably we will get an interesting revelation on what actually happened with Rin all this time.
I am actually prefer Obito's story just ended after the kannabi bridge fight, and we all just have a memory and perception of Obito as a hero.
But it does not seem bad after all if Obito become a "villain" (we saw already a "villain" become a good guy in the series: Uchiha Itachi). The good thing also is, we could see how Obito's adult face look like ^_^.
The face of Obito, where the right part of his face is damaged due to Kannabi's incident, just reminded me of the character of two face in the Dark Knight.
He was a hero, but he could turn to be a villain when the one he loved died.
Kakashi had promised to Obito to protect Rin even though he has to sacrifice his life, but still he failed. Probably that is why Tobi said to Kakashi several sentences:
"You open your mouth too easily"
"You are only talk and no action"
"A hero that made pathetic excuses in front of grave"
all because Kakashi could not fulfill his promise to protect Rin, while Obito really loved Rin, and asked Kakashi to do a "lifetime mission" to protect Rin. And probably that is why Tobi also asked Naruto what will his teacher think if Naruto failed in his mission, which could also refer to Kakashi which failed in his mission to protect Rin.
But It feels too cheesy of course if the reason for Obito turned into a villain just because of Rin, and I am not a story-maker myself, so I also need a better story analysis and guesses than I just wrote above ^_^.
Just remember, Kishi created this "Naruto" story where many characters have greater "illusions" in their existence in manga when they are greater Shinobis. As a creator, Kishi himself should be a "greatest Shinobi" to make an ultimate "illusion" to the whole storyline. As one of the main rule of a Shinobi in the beginning of the series: A shinobi must see underneath the underneath.
Which also makes me also wonder, why the second chapter in the earliest Naruto manga was introducing Konohamaru.
I agree with almost everything, but....
Tobi is Obito
Obito gave his eye to Kakashi and they were told to run, leaving Obito to die
Obito passed out
B4 he the last moment of his death he had autoactivated the space-time justu and manged to survive
Obito was saved by Madara Uchiha at The Battle of Kannabi Bridge
After Obito woke up, Madara had already attended to his wounds, his eye sack, from which his eye to Kakashi was torn out, is shown to be sewn, and his right eye intact, although his right side of the face seems to be bruised a lot
Obito was burried in Konoha with an empty grave, most likely kakashi and his team tryed to look for his dead body, but could not find it.
Madara became Obito's mentor, therefore explaining how he knew him and obito becoming so powerful
Obito was brainwashed in the long run into accepting Madaras ideals
He was mad at kakashi that rin/ren had died even though he made a promise with kakashi after madara brainwashed him, explaining the hatrate in him and him trying to accomplish the moon eye plan, since he was troubled by the death of
Ren/rin. This also explains the change in motive in obito/Tobi, and explains why he said "it's to late to regert now" and explains why he thinks kakashi is "only talk and no action". Obito loved Ron,and when that bond had been broken up, he was mad and himself and everyone, including kakashi, so he is trying to accomplish the moon eye plan, so he can be with rin/ren
Madara was the one to come up with Tsuki No Me
Madara also created the akatsuki
Tobi used zetsu to go and transform himself to Tobi/ inorder to attack Hidden leaf village 16 years ago, or once he released the nine-tails he went away and zetsu took his place.
Madara died/ self sacrificed himself, inorder to be summoned by obtio/tobi in a different form, an thus unlocking his "prime".
Maybe, but b4 madara died, he gave nagoto his renningan, or gave him the power to use unleash it. Explaining the fact madara knew nagato.
Obito became Tobi
His mission was to carry out Madaras plan
He was given all the information that Madara possessed, thus the extent of knowledge Tobi has about everything
Also given leadership of the akatsuki, and given abit of madara's power, explaining the fact he can controll the nine-tails with his eyes If obito/Tobi did attack the village 16 years ago.
Tobi/obito did controll the 4th mizukage, but when he showed his face, if
You look closely kisame kept looking at the eyes of Tobi/obito, therefore he had casted a illusion on kisame, to make him believe that he was really madara, just like recently when he shows kisame that Tobi is madara, and without realizing that he was in a illusion.
