Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[zoezoe]

Re: Tobi

I was thinking that too, they should not be the same person. :y

i agree

 

[KidGamer65]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

The whole flashback would be a waste if Tobi wasn't Obito, it would be pretty dumb to show a flashback, then say Obito the main object of the flashback is dead.

 

[elxdark]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

The whole flashback would be a waste if Tobi wasn't Obito, it would be pretty dumb to show a flashback, then say Obito the main object of the flashback is dead.

i'm trying say it to them, but it seems they DON'T want to see...

 

[Minato namikaze2]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

ye obito the guy who couldnt even face enemy suddenly gains mangekyo-knows all history about uchiha-plans how to conquer the world-becomes smart as yagami light and gets brave as **** so obitoish dont u think ? Kishi is trolling soon he will show who is the soul of obito i feel like izuna took obitos body like orochimaru jutsus i guess but im 100% sure that he isnt real obito

 

[Minato namikaze2]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Tobi is obito, The chapter is called Obito Uchiha, look at kakashi's face, kishi made a whole chapter about obito and you're trying tell us that tobi is not obito? guys are you high?

And the last thing, the last page did you see the black text ? "It's finally revealed. His name is obito", I saw it in 3 different languages so the translation is not wrong.
Just accept it, and wait to next week.

thats called troll bro

 

[zombiejesus]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

it is what it is man you need to exept it and move on

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

*sigh* You people are still indenial, just accept the fact Tobi=Obito

 

[NLee]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Despite the latest chapter, I still don't believe Tobi is actually Obito. I don't know. There has to be something else going on here.

 

[Minato namikaze2]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

*sigh* You people are still indenial, just accept the fact Tobi=Obito

accept the fact u fell for kishis trolling trap lol

 

[NarutoKakashi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

Well I think one of the good explanations of this is :

Madara was the early Tobi and then Obito killed him and gained his mask?

 

[NarutoKakashi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Despite the latest chapter, I still don't believe Tobi is actually Obito. I don't know. There has to be something else going on here.

It showed on the manga.

But if its Obito's body and then Izuna Uchiha is controlling by using Ino Clan's Technique....

Imma Rape Kishi for making me look like a Dumbass!

 

[esaboturaneht]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Kishis known who tobi is for fricken years! He's aware of the plot holes and he knows how to fill them. Do you seriously think he makes it up as he goes along? Please. Don't be stupid. For me? pretty please?

 

[N A R U T O]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

I TOLD YOU ALL HAHAHAHAHA Ever since tobi came i knew he was obito but everybody Didn't Believe me I get 50$ from a Bet now So Suck It!!

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[NarutoKakashi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Several reasons why Tobi cannot be Obito

1) The sudden leap in ability. When Obito died, he was a Chuunin. From Kakashi's age, we can infer that Kakashi was 13 or 14 when Obito died (Kakashi is 26-27 at the start of Naruto, and he was 13 when he became Jonin. At most, nine months pass between the Kannabi Bridge mission and Naruto's birth, if Kushina got pregnant only after the mission. Or it could have been as short as a week for all we know). So, at most, Obito had only nine months to somehow jump from Chuunin rank to fighting at least on equal terms with the Fourth Hokage. Given from what 599 tells us, Obito was jealous of Kakashi outstripping him. If Obito managed to be equal to the Fourth...why is he jealous?
- Side note to that fight with the Fourth. In a battle, especially ninja battles, you're supposed to use any and all tricks necessary to win. If Tobi was Obito, wouldn't he have pulled off his mask and said "Hi Sensei! Great to see ya!" so as to distract Minato, get him to pause for a second?

-Obito clearly died from the cave in. He has a ton of huge rocks on top of his body. In fact, it's already hard to believe he survived long enough to say goodbye to his team-mates and to give Kakashi his eye. Even if somehow the rocks were just the right shape and he was in just the right position to only be trapped but not actually harmed by the rocks...why would his team-mates then leave him alive to starve to death? If he was only trapped and not harmed by the cave-in, they would have granted him a merciful death, to spare him the agony of starving.

-Obito had only awoken his Sharingan for the first time that mission. No way that after the cave-in, he somehow used Kamui to save himself.

-Even if he did somehow use Kamui...what possible motive does he have to become the villainous mastermind behind everything? From the montage we see in 599, Obito at most is jealous of Kakashi and pissed off at him. That's it. At his death, he died with a smile on his face, willingly giving up his eye to his friend. If he was actually evil...why willingly give up his eye? Why, if he survived, didn't he go back to Konoha? Why, if jealous of Kakashi being better than him, give him an eye that would only serve to make him even better? If he survived, why do everything he did, instead of going back to Konoha and beating the living crap out of Kakashi?

-As for the possibility of it being Obito's body that is being controlled or possessed in some way (say via a Yamanaka-esque mind control jutsu, or through him being resurrected with Edo Tensei), two things are wrong with that. First, this implies a FOURTH hidden character (first hidden character was the leader of Akatsuki, later revealed to be Nagato/Pain. Second was Tobi, whom at first was said to be Madara Uchiha. Third was Tobi again, once it was revealed Madara was a separate individual) So now, close to the end of the manga, there's a possibility of a fourth hidden character? Imagine if, say, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, during the Battle of Hogwarts, it was revealed Voldemort's body was being controlled by his third cousin twice removed? In a piece of literature, you don't reveal at the very end that your main villain is actually somebody else, whom the audience has never before seen.
The second problem with that is...why Obito? Why control/resurrect Obito? He was a no-name ninja. His only claim to fame was that his sensei became Fourth Hokage. He didn't accomplish anything and had no notable skills, so why use Obito to fight against the Fourth a year after his death? This would be somewhat like Kankuro choosing to use a basic puppet to fight against a Kazekage, rather than say Sasori's puppet body. Especially if somehow his controller/possessor knew before Obito's death that Obito's eyes would develop the Kamui power. How would they have known?


Lastly...what's up with 599 showing Kakashi taking the Chuunin exam at the same age as Obito and Rin? He didn't. The official databooks say he became a Chuunin at age six, having graduated as a Genin at five. So Kakashi had no business at all even so much as being part of the same graduating class as Obito and Rin.

Dude wait for Chapter 600 and then you will know the reasons behind it.

But it is possible that when someone got his body and revived him, he told him the black side of the uchiha and other issues going around the leaf that made him into a mask villian.

But that explaination does not cover the Kurama Part.

 

[Release230]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

Or...obito used his Space/Time abilites from his sharigan to go back in time to do all of this...solves nearly all plot holes if you think about it

 

[HerpDerpUchiha]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Am I the only one that thinks Tobi AND Kakashi both got their eyes from Obito? Like you said, Obito wasn't even born when Tobi was controlling the Mizukage so the logical prediction is that after Kakashi had Obitio's eye implanted to him, Tobi came and took Obito's other eye that was crushed, and somehow made it normal again. There is something important Kishi isn't telling us...

 

[Qureshi]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

calm down people it will all end good, kishi said that he decided the ending and he does not have any second thoughts about it so it must be pretty good

 

[minatoisagod]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

there must be some "logical" explanation for this.

 

[Release230]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

there must be some "logical" explanation for this.

i just gave one

 

[Zygomic]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Just wait a while, im sure all the answers will surface soon.