Tobi is still NOT Obito!

[HyugaPrinceton]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

Dude STFU! Kakashi asked a question "obito?". Until He himself says he is. That is just a random dude.

 

[Troyg39]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

It's ok man. Tobi has Obito's body, it's not the end of the world. It doesn't prove that Tobi is Obito. His vessel is just being used. If chapter 600 reveals that Obito's body is being used/controlled, then every who keeps making "I told you so" threads about Tobi being Obito will have to backtrack, and everyone who they've been talking **** to all day will be right back at their throats. So let's just wait and see what happens first

 

[minato12345]

Re: Tobi never aged

true he might of gone to the barbers to get a haircut

 

[SasukeSacrifice]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

Fine choise to apologizebut i think the tobi that controlled the mizukage was madara, look at his hair.
Obito only continue the plan but lets see how kishi explain it

 

[minato12345]

Re: Tobi never aged

they call the haircut....the tobi way

 

[KyuubiUzumaki]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

Why apologize? We are still waiting an explanation from Kishi. Till then, it is only Obito's body.

 

[Deuscrop]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

Yeah, but I was so sure they were wrong...like I would bet my ****ing eye...or some shit...don't know....

 

[Chatte]

Re: He is not the real Obito! Oh and.... I told ya so!

Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.

What my questions/remarks are:

1. Why the indirect hate towards the whole Senju clan that Tobi has shown unless being a very old character?

2. Why Kishi would write the few sentences as this: "Obito?" If it would've been a 100% sure it would've been a full stop or a exclamation mark?

Question mark is used in connection with an 100% uncomplete information, it means there is a missing data there.

If it would've been a full stop it would've represented an undenied piece of evidence. Still Kishi used a question mark meaning the evidence is not 100% accurate/missing data.

3. As well as the phrase construction "It has been confirmed: his name is Obito!"

There Kishi confirms things, it gives us the information that the name is Obito, not the whole person. If it would've been a 100% certain information that Tobi is Obito as a whole, it wouldn't have been necessary for Kishi to add an explanatory note, yet he did it to bring an explanatory note about the name being Obito.

So until isn't 100% sure that Tobi is Obito, until Tobi stated himself, yes, I am Tobi, even though it's a 0.01% chances of being someone else, I am doubting this as it still leaves open possibilities.

It would have been logical for Kishi to mislead to add all those details that took to Obito in order to mess with our minds.

My guess is that it is his body, but there is someone else in there, meaning the counsciousness/soul of another person.

Or it is his consciousness but another body very similar to Tobi's.

True that you were very close.
You were actually very accurate on the indicative details that would make us believing that actually, yes, Tobi is Obito or the timeline of the events having some connection with the timeline of the events of Obito's ones.

He could even play with our mind making Tobi to state that he was Obito which again would be an 100% that he would be Obito. But we know that Kishi made this character to be a bit of a lier. What if in a singular panel, later on, when he would be by himself or with Zetsu/Madara, he will state something like "I told them I am Obito in order to play with their minds?" or something very similar to that. Wouldn't that be a second mind-f*ck (excuse my language) given to us by Kishi?

So until Kishimoto comes with an undeniable proof that he is indeed Obito, that still leaves open possibilities, as I've stated before.

What if is indeed his mind and body, but actually somewhere in the back there is God knows what whose using Tobi's counsciousness with a jutsu or something like that? What if it is his body that gave a full access to his memories but someone else is there. Like in Queen of the Damned movie (a vampire one) where when you bit someone and had his blood you had full access to his memories. Body includes the brain, the brain stores memories.

The perfect match to play with someone's mind.

Also, something to note, that rumor who was viral these days on the internet would pretty much fit the whole scenario of Tobi = Obito but is not actually Obito, is Izuna.

Because if you remember, it was said that it was indeed, Izuna BUT he will bring a lot of suffer thus implying the fact that looking like Obito will mind-blow Kakashi and everyone else who once knew Obito.

Also that was supposed to be an unleaked information by someone close to Kishimoto that instantly would blow-away the whole impact on the fanbase. But, Kishi as being smart (hope he is because of not... I don't know what to say U_U) made us once again fall into astonishment, as we move our beliefs regarding the rumor.

Than, he comes again later on (still have to see when) and show us Tobi as being Izuna and once again we will be mind-blown. So he got the impact he wanted in the first place EVEN THOUGH the information was leaked.

Nonetheless, we have to wait.

Yes, he had been exposed, but why do I have the feeling that he wanted to be exposed? He is portrayed as a character who wants to play with people's mind and use undeniable true facts twisted to his own advantage.

And here we have to take into consideration the whole Sasuke story.
Indeed, he told Sasuke what happened to Itachi but he did it that way, that would suit his preferences.

Same things could happen with Kakashi as well. Using undeniable facts to his own benefit although they differ in perspective.

If it's not Obito and is Izuna, the whole information he got after the timeline of his events would be easily explained thanks to Zetsu. But to explain Obito's timeline events with what happens now, is a lot harder.

The expose thing I was reffering about him wanted to be exposed when he adressed to Kakashi/Gai.
That would be from where his mind-twisting plan starts.

 

[fati]

Re: Tobi never aged

So it most likely Tobi is obito ( Unless he is in someones body , but i told you so )

He never aged , the right side was mark by crushed Boulders . Someone must have healed him ( Madara , izuna zetsu i dont care )

people say how he fought Minato his senpai at age of 14/15

Sasuke was 17 and fought 5 kages ( They are kages not just any shinobi . Not to mention 5 )

8 yrs later he met Itachi ( or 4 i dont know ) . In that time hair extremly grows right ? So he is still one tobi

Thanks for read . I will make a long dept nice theory about obito in breif some 2-3 days later .

yes but sasuke was considered a genius and was one of the stronges even in academy but obito was weak from the beginning

 

[johnny scars]

tobi could be fooloing every one!!

he could just use a genjutsu and fool everyone or he could use the transformation jutsu to look like obito to fudge up with kakashis mind so he would be easier to take out??:shrug::shrug:

what do you guys think??

 

[BudakPurba]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

hahaha... delta407 .. u sucks.. u said i dumd becoz tobi is obito..but kishi draw tobi is obito... hahaha.. im right you wrong... hahaha... u think ur so clever.. but u are dumb.. hahaha... but...maybe next episode u be the one who luaghing at me back becoz.. i think that this obito maybe just a temporary... maybe just a diversion to kakashi or something... but nevermind just as long im right and you are WRONG!!!

 

[נıм]

Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

didn't understand

 

[b1azeph0en1x]

Re: Tobi never aged

Wrong... He aged but slowly because he has regeneration using wood style.

 

[thai sage]

Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

Thread says everything. I thought you were trolls.....

I'M SO SORRY....YOU WERE RIGHT , WE WERE WRONG...

Thank you, we appreciate it, while many were just being trolls many others also had some pretty good theories. And to all those haters who still refuse to say that tobi is obito, or it's just his body, guess what it doesn't matter the physical form that they are fighting right now is obito's, he also has obitos memories, either that or he's just studied up on Kakashi and gai. So many people were trying to force tobi being othe people making up these elaborate theories, some of which were really good, but they only made them cause they didn't want to admit that tobi was obito. Just get over it people I'm sure there is a lot more to it then just simply being obito but for now we atleast know that tobi has the physical form of obito and has some of his knowledge

 

[fati]

Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

he had the same face when he was talking to sasuke and in the fight with konan

 

[נıм]

Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

yes it's ramen guy, he just used Henge no Jutsu

 

[Chatte]

Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.

What my questions/remarks are:

1. Why the indirect hate towards the whole Senju clan that Tobi has shown unless being a very old character?

2. Why Kishi would write the few sentences as this: "Obito?" If it would've been a 100% sure it would've been a full stop or a exclamation mark?

Question mark is used in connection with an 100% uncomplete information, it means there is a missing data there.

If it would've been a full stop it would've represented an undenied piece of evidence. Still Kishi used a question mark meaning the evidence is not 100% accurate/missing data.

3. As well as the phrase construction "It has been confirmed: his name is Obito!"

There Kishi confirms things, it gives us the information that the name is Obito, not the whole person. If it would've been a 100% certain information that Tobi is Obito as a whole, it wouldn't have been necessary for Kishi to add an explanatory note, yet he did it to bring an explanatory note about the name being Obito.

So until isn't 100% sure that Tobi is Obito, until Tobi stated himself, yes, I am Tobi, even though it's a 0.01% chances of being someone else, I am doubting this as it still leaves open possibilities.

It would have been logical for Kishi to mislead to add all those details that took to Obito in order to mess with our minds.

My guess is that it is his body, but there is someone else in there, meaning the counsciousness/soul of another person.

Or it is his consciousness but another body very similar to Tobi's.

True that you were very close.
You were actually very accurate on the indicative details that would make us believing that actually, yes, Tobi is Obito or the timeline of the events having some connection with the timeline of the events of Obito's ones.

He could even play with our mind making Tobi to state that he was Obito which again would be an 100% that he would be Obito. But we know that Kishi made this character to be a bit of a lier. What if in a singular panel, later on, when he would be by himself or with Zetsu/Madara, he will state something like "I told them I am Obito in order to play with their minds?" or something very similar to that. Wouldn't that be a second mind-f*ck (excuse my language) given to us by Kishi?

So until Kishimoto comes with an undeniable proof that he is indeed Obito, that still leaves open possibilities, as I've stated before.

What if is indeed his mind and body, but actually somewhere in the back there is God knows what whose using Tobi's counsciousness with a jutsu or something like that? What if it is his body that gave a full access to his memories but someone else is there. Like in Queen of the Damned movie (a vampire one) where when you bit someone and had his blood you had full access to his memories. Body includes the brain, the brain stores memories.

The perfect match to play with someone's mind.

Also, something to note, that rumor who was viral these days on the internet would pretty much fit the whole scenario of Tobi = Obito but is not actually Obito, is Izuna.

Because if you remember, it was said that it was indeed, Izuna BUT he will bring a lot of suffer thus implying the fact that looking like Obito will mind-blow Kakashi and everyone else who once knew Obito.

Also that was supposed to be an unleaked information by someone close to Kishimoto that instantly would blow-away the whole impact on the fanbase. But, Kishi as being smart (hope he is because of not... I don't know what to say U_U) made us once again fall into astonishment, as we move our beliefs regarding the rumor.

Than, he comes again later on (still have to see when) and show us Tobi as being Izuna and once again we will be mind-blown. So he got the impact he wanted in the first place EVEN THOUGH the information was leaked.

Nonetheless, we have to wait.

Yes, he had been exposed, but why do I have the feeling that he wanted to be exposed? He is portrayed as a character who wants to play with people's mind and use undeniable true facts twisted to his own advantage.

And here we have to take into consideration the whole Sasuke story.
Indeed, he told Sasuke what happened to Itachi but he did it that way, that would suit his preferences.

Same things could happen with Kakashi as well. Using undeniable facts to his own benefit although they differ in perspective.

If it's not Obito and is Izuna, the whole information he got after the timeline of his events would be easily explained thanks to Zetsu. But to explain Obito's timeline events with what happens now, is a lot harder.

The expose thing I was reffering about him wanted to be exposed when he adressed to Kakashi/Gai.
That would be from where his mind-twisting plan starts.

 

[The God of Wind]

Re: He is not the real Obito! Oh and.... I told ya so!

What the **** have you even proved yet?

Go to the thread in my first post, the new chapter is the same as my spoiler, word for word, except for the stuff that is still to be revealed.

Also....go look at all my Tobi has Mangekyo theories made atleast 4 months ago, and all the people that said I was wrong or stupid, I just proved otherwise with these last two chapters from kishi, and I will be right about Tobi being Madara too, mark my words!

That is what I proved!

 

[Spyder Lee]

Re: Tobi never aged

Not to mention Minato was praised as a genius, plus he's faster than the Raikage and knows spatial time technique, yet Tobi/Obito almost took him down. Now I know Sasuke is a great Uchiha, although I personally don't think he could take on Minato or T/O that's only because I think he is too rash whereas the older ninjas are level headed fighters in the heat of battle.

 

[b1azeph0en1x]

Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

he could just use a genjutsu and fool everyone or he could use the transformation jutsu to look like obito to fudge up with kakashis mind so he would be easier to take out??:shrug::shrug:

what do you guys think??

Wrong -rep