[Theory] Tobi is not Madra

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I know this is tired however my proof is in the pudding.
first we know Obtio got the side of his face crushed and you can see that here....

from there you see tobi's face with a hole in it here....

therefore tobi is obito
now the only hole is see is the side probably having something to do with izunga or something
link that with kakishi sharingan deals with space time and it makes sense
 

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Stop... Your theory fails. Obito is dead, he had a crushed right eye. Tobi had two Sharingans until he fought Konan. He used Izanagi and his left eye closed. So he replaced it with Rinnegan.
 

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Obito's right side was crushed, and Tobi used izinagi with his left eye. Its dark because the 'light' in his eye has gone out because he does not have the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Izanagi can only be used once.
 

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yo this is sooo stupid.. its like yall dont watch naruto at all... obito is dead. gave his eye to kakashi...tobi is madara's nickname like wow comon guys wheres ur common sense.
just like how minato (forth hokage) is called "yellow flash"...madara is called or calls himself tobi... BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT ANYONE KNOWING HIS TRUE IDENTITY....
the story line is pretty staright foreward its takes a real dumbass to think that obito and tobi are the same person.
 
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thats not a hole dumbass! thats just the shading to prevent us from getting too much detail of MADARA'S face, second, your logic makes NO SENSE AT ALL not for obviously being retarded, but because you claim that Tobi is Obito for having Obito's RIGHT side crushed and then you go on to tell us about Madara's LEFT side... I swear some people...
 

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I know this is tired however my proof is in the pudding.
first we know Obtio got the side of his face crushed and you can see that here....

from there you see tobi's face with a hole in it here....

therefore tobi is obito
now the only hole is see is the side probably having something to do with izunga or something
link that with kakishi sharingan deals with space time and it makes sense
No, Obito got his right side crushed. Madara is shown with his Right side.

Madara had his spacetime technique 16 years BEFORE Kakashi was able to unlock it. The time span don't make sense. I know everyone wants Obito to be Tobi but he isn't. Tobi is just an allias for Madara. Nothing more nothing less.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to Obito being Tobi.. But there are just too many problems with that. There is a reason why there are 1000 threads about it. Because its impossible at this point to prove it and easier to think of reasons that would disprove the theory.
 

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My guess is that Madara is not Tobi but is Izuna Uchiha. The only proof we have of his death is the word of 'Madara'. To fake one's death its obviously necessary to propagate such a rumor. My theory is that Zetsu witnessed the battle at the VoTE and retrieved the eyes, while enjoying a snack, for Izuna. Unforeseen problems arose with the EMS 're-transplant' leaving Izuna at diminished capacity. He poses as Madara for obvioius shock-effect advantage. I agree that Kabuto knows what we all want to know. And that is the truth behind the mask of Tobi. He keeps dropping hints.

Izuna was left with diminished sharingan and was on a quest of vengence and an upgrade. He used Zetsu to be on the lookout for any and all Sharingan of fallen Ninja. He found Obito's eye intact, attached to his crushed body and took it from his dead corpse. Again a snack. Zetsu is impermanent to solids--easy for him. Obito died and is not Evil.

'Izuna-Tobi' made a deal with Danzo. I believe Orochimaru, obsessed with forbidden techniques, was involved with and an agent of Danzo, employed as his 'Dr. Frankenstein'. The deal made to 'harvest' the Uchiha sharingan as weapons... The ultimate Forbidden Uchiha tech--Izanagi. A Tech that closes the eye permanently. Requiring a large supply of disposable Sharingan. The 2 split the booty, entered into a mutual non-aggression pact and rendered a potential threat into non-existence. I believe Orochimaru joined Akatsuki with the orders from Danzo to retrieve Itachi's sharingan. Later, Oro went rogue and desired the Sharingan for himself, pursuing Sasuke.

Izuna, being the equal of Madara and one of the 2 firsts to awaken MS, knows the Secrets of the Sharingan and the history as well as Madara. He took it upon himself to surpass his brother once and for all. To go one step further than Izanagi. To become the 'equal' of the So6P. Insane, but logical.
 

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Obito only came to being to explain Kakashi Sharigan, thats all. Ones Obito gave Kakashi His Sharigan it was all He was needed for. Obito is dead and gone, Madara/Tobi is over 100 years old, Obito was a teenager when He died, Obito and Kakashi were the same age when Obito died, please levee Obito rest in peace.
 

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obito is gone, just part of the story to explain kakashi's sharingan, and his view about leaving people behind, the story with obito made him the noble shinobi he is now, without that he would stick to the rules and be called a powerfull selfish basterd, a real tool because his actions could be easely predicted since he would folow the rules stricktly, but obito changed him in that repsect. other then that obito brings nothing to the story. he was a child with a newly awakend sharingan, but had no actual power or name to himself, and only half a body after his death, so why would anyone be interested in his body??
and even if he was alive, why would he have a grudge against konoha and the shinobi, why would he so suddenly be trying to take over the world, it just doesn't make sence.

it's quite simple:
madara managed to find a way to prolong his life, (with or without the help of zetsu, that is unclear),and being the briliant strategist and cunning shinobi managed to find himself a way to become very powerfull again and created a long term plan to gain al this power to get his vengence. but he didn't want people to target him while he was still reaserching and while he was in the early stages of his plan so he hides behind his alias "tobi" and orchestrates everything from the shadows by manipulating pain and that kage, and now sasuke. if he would stay under the name "madara" he would have been targetted all his life and would never have been able to complete his plan.
and he feels threathend by kabuto because he seems to know quite a lot more then others do.
that's why I belive tobi = madara and since the kage summit he finaly openly admitted it.

sorry for the spelling, I'm not native english and this was typed quicly because I'm getting a bit tired of all these obito theory's and I don't have much time at the moment
 

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I think Tobi was neglected as a child which is why he started this war in order to get a lot of attention and to take over the world in the meantime, you know to keep his schedule filled. Zetsu's there to take over things in case Tobi wants to free up his schedule
 
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