Bigfoot34501
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Alright since there seems to be such an interest in this topic today, I made a thread about this topic again. The original thread that I made about this topic is dead, but I have the link to it on the botom of the page if you want to read it.
Now I want to start with noting that there has been three times in the manga where Tobi has legitimately been pissed off:
-The first time was when Nagato betrayed him, although he had a backup plan for that
-The second time was when it was revealed that he was not Madara Uchiha, although he just shrugged it off as not being a big deal
-The third time was when Danzo crushed Shisui's eye, he did not have a backup plan for that
What does that matter? It matters because it probably didn't take long for Tobi to figure out who had Shisui's eyes after the Uchiha massacre. He probably only helped with the massacre to get Shisui's eyes. I believe that he found the mutilated, eyeless corpse of Shisui and figured it out from there. He figured out Danzo had the right eye, so it's only natural that he would assume Itachi had the left eye. I mean only five other people knew about the massacre, the Third Hokage, the two elders, Danzo, and Itachi. He should have known that the elders and the Third didn't have any reason to have that left eye, and by process of elimination he would know it's Itachi. Now why would Tobi try to kill Danzo who was much more difficult to kill than Itachi?
Now I know Itachi fanboys will flame me out for saying that, but just think for a second. Danzo seemed like he didn't leave the village a lot, I highly doubt Hiruzen or Tsunade ever sent him on any missions. So trying to attack Danzo must have taken Tobi a while until he left the village. He also had to attack him when he wasn't heavily guarded as shown here:
Lucky for Tobi, the Raikage had the Kage Summit, which required only two guards. But why did Tobi wait when he had at least five other people that would have helped him kill Itachi for Shisui's left eye much sooner?
-Deidara hated Itachi after he beat him the first time they met, Tobi should have known that Deidara would have happily helped him kill Itachi
-Tobi could have ordered Nagato to kill Itachi which would have been a lot easier than invading Konoha
-Konan would have followed Nagato
-Kisame may have respected Itachi and gotten along with him, but if Tobi had revealed his identity as the former Mizukage sooner and asked him to kill Itachi, he probably would have. Hell, Kisame commited suicide just to protect Tobi's identity. He would have helped Tobi for sure
-Zetsu obeys every order that Tobi commands him to do, as Tobi noted he isn't that good of a fighter, but he still could have helped kill Itachi
So that's six people who could have teamed up and killed Itachi. Sorry Itachi fanboys, there's absolutely no way he could win that battle. But this didn't happen, Tobi waited all that time just to kill Danzo. So why was Shisui's right eye more important than the left?
Here's what I think, we all know that Danzo had Shisui's ability of Kotoamatsukami. Danzo used this on Mifune during the Kage summit:
We also know that Tobi controlled the Fourth Mizukage. NOTE: On the first page here we only see one eye, the right eye. And Kisame confirms that he only sees one eye in the next panel. The second page is Tobi revealing himself to Kisame
This next two pages confirms that Kisame met the same person he met before in the previous two pages:
And this is the the most important piece to the puzzle. Here the Fifth Mizukage states that she can't help but believe that the technique Tobi used and the technique Danzo used are eerily similar:
And this is what I think it all means, I believe that Tobi's right eye belonged to a close relative of Shisui. That is why I think he has Kotoamatsukami in his right eye and that's why he clearly favored his right Sharingan over his left Sharingan before he lost it to Izanagi. If Tobi's right eye does belong to that close relative, then that is why he did not go after Itachi for Shisui's left eye, because Shisui's right eye was the key to Tobi getting EMS. Maybe he got the left eye that he used against Konan after the Uchiha massacre. If his plan had worked, he would have had EMS for himself and Nagato would have had the Rinnegan. But Nagato betrayed him, so he planned on taking Nagato's left Rinnegan and having EMS in his right eye. But that also failed and now I believe that he is stuck with MS in his right eye instead. I know it's not confirmed that he has MS, but Itachi pointed out that you need at least MS to control the Kyuubi:
Now I know that I am making a lot of assumptions, but it's only a theory. What do you guys think of it?
And here is the original thread:
Now I want to start with noting that there has been three times in the manga where Tobi has legitimately been pissed off:
-The first time was when Nagato betrayed him, although he had a backup plan for that
-The second time was when it was revealed that he was not Madara Uchiha, although he just shrugged it off as not being a big deal
-The third time was when Danzo crushed Shisui's eye, he did not have a backup plan for that
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What does that matter? It matters because it probably didn't take long for Tobi to figure out who had Shisui's eyes after the Uchiha massacre. He probably only helped with the massacre to get Shisui's eyes. I believe that he found the mutilated, eyeless corpse of Shisui and figured it out from there. He figured out Danzo had the right eye, so it's only natural that he would assume Itachi had the left eye. I mean only five other people knew about the massacre, the Third Hokage, the two elders, Danzo, and Itachi. He should have known that the elders and the Third didn't have any reason to have that left eye, and by process of elimination he would know it's Itachi. Now why would Tobi try to kill Danzo who was much more difficult to kill than Itachi?
Now I know Itachi fanboys will flame me out for saying that, but just think for a second. Danzo seemed like he didn't leave the village a lot, I highly doubt Hiruzen or Tsunade ever sent him on any missions. So trying to attack Danzo must have taken Tobi a while until he left the village. He also had to attack him when he wasn't heavily guarded as shown here:
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-Deidara hated Itachi after he beat him the first time they met, Tobi should have known that Deidara would have happily helped him kill Itachi
-Tobi could have ordered Nagato to kill Itachi which would have been a lot easier than invading Konoha
-Konan would have followed Nagato
-Kisame may have respected Itachi and gotten along with him, but if Tobi had revealed his identity as the former Mizukage sooner and asked him to kill Itachi, he probably would have. Hell, Kisame commited suicide just to protect Tobi's identity. He would have helped Tobi for sure
-Zetsu obeys every order that Tobi commands him to do, as Tobi noted he isn't that good of a fighter, but he still could have helped kill Itachi
So that's six people who could have teamed up and killed Itachi. Sorry Itachi fanboys, there's absolutely no way he could win that battle. But this didn't happen, Tobi waited all that time just to kill Danzo. So why was Shisui's right eye more important than the left?
Here's what I think, we all know that Danzo had Shisui's ability of Kotoamatsukami. Danzo used this on Mifune during the Kage summit:
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This next two pages confirms that Kisame met the same person he met before in the previous two pages:
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Now I know that I am making a lot of assumptions, but it's only a theory. What do you guys think of it?
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