darthvader5666
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This. Not to mention he probably has all the Rinnegan abilities (like the six paths' powers).
Tobi gets no respect
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Blaze Release
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Read your post and you even went as far as calling him a coward. In naruto there is no such thing as cowards or else oro using 2 former hokages to fight a 69 year old is a coward. Kabuto using others abilities to fight in a war is a coward.
You are underrating him
Every technique/person has his weakness. Why didn't Tobi do all the work. Some examples:
- Sasori - He had poisoned Puppet-guy from sand already and then Sakura made a antidote of the poison. That way she could delay the after effects of it.
- Itachi - they (kakashi) fought them once and the second time they meet again, he already had a way to counter his genjutsu. Don't look into his eyes and a kage bunshin that couldn't be effected by genjutsu.
- Hidan/Kakuzu - Team Asuma had fought them and after that Shikamaru made a strategy based on their abilities. Second time they knew the abilitie from hidan and that was enough.
- Pein/Nagato- Jiraiya sensei had fought him and based on his fight he knew a few secrets/abilities. And Naruto could make a counter attack based on those info.
My point is if Tobi would do all those jobs. There was a big possibity that the enemy could make a strategy to defeat him. Cause everyone has a weakness. Also that weakness was found by Konan and she almost defeated tobi. But she didn't know about Izinagi.
And to say that controlling the kyuubi to attack Konoha is the same as saying using toad/snake summoning is also lame. Beside to control the kyuubi and fight at the same time means you are realy strong.
And minato got him, because he already made a counter plan to his SpaceTimeJutsu, cause he could be Intouchable and got to be solid again to grab/hit someone. And that way he used his FTG technique.
So does he has respect, yes. Is he strong, definitly. Does he play it dirty, yes but there are no rules in ninja world. Which villain does care about dirty or fear, doesn't give a .... about it.
- Sasori - He had poisoned Puppet-guy from sand already and then Sakura made a antidote of the poison. That way she could delay the after effects of it.
- Itachi - they (kakashi) fought them once and the second time they meet again, he already had a way to counter his genjutsu. Don't look into his eyes and a kage bunshin that couldn't be effected by genjutsu.
- Hidan/Kakuzu - Team Asuma had fought them and after that Shikamaru made a strategy based on their abilities. Second time they knew the abilitie from hidan and that was enough.
- Pein/Nagato- Jiraiya sensei had fought him and based on his fight he knew a few secrets/abilities. And Naruto could make a counter attack based on those info.
My point is if Tobi would do all those jobs. There was a big possibity that the enemy could make a strategy to defeat him. Cause everyone has a weakness. Also that weakness was found by Konan and she almost defeated tobi. But she didn't know about Izinagi.
And to say that controlling the kyuubi to attack Konoha is the same as saying using toad/snake summoning is also lame. Beside to control the kyuubi and fight at the same time means you are realy strong.
And minato got him, because he already made a counter plan to his SpaceTimeJutsu, cause he could be Intouchable and got to be solid again to grab/hit someone. And that way he used his FTG technique.
So does he has respect, yes. Is he strong, definitly. Does he play it dirty, yes but there are no rules in ninja world. Which villain does care about dirty or fear, doesn't give a .... about it.
FlyingThunderGodHax
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Tobi is a boss. He can manipulate people so easily it could be compared to Naruto's talk no jutsu 
Manipulate no jutsu??
Manipulate no jutsu??
kakashikage
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I don't think his over rated. His tactics make sense if you think of it as Tobi was never really complete or not 100%. Like the time he got hit with Amaterasu or poisoned with insects by Danzo's guard he was able to rip of the damaged part of his body without any blood or pain.
Shino Swagg
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I said he uses coward tactics. I personally feel like Oro using the edo's was a bit cowarddly but at the end of the day he fights back. Just like when he fought J-man and Tsunade. And at least Kabuto was fighting the Uchiha brothers.
I said he uses coward tactics because he just uses that BS defense until he thinks he has a way to win. I never said he was weak, just that ppl act as if he is SO6P
that technique is a cowardly way to fight. And he spammed it until he got the rinnegan. He never went mano-a-mano. Spamming that technique and running into another dimension. No respect. Dont misunderstand me, he is strong. Very strong. Just overrated
Shino Swagg
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If he was just having fun he would a completed his whatever moon BS that he's trying to do. Plus, Tobi is a serious guy. IMO he wouldn't toy around or just have fun. He seems dedicated to his cause not like Madara who just wants to show off.
This is a show about ninja, and if you don't know what ninja means go read it on internet, in old japan they were created to do the dirty works like,
Assassinations,espionage, somethings that your so called proud warrior (Samurai) were unable to do, so in the world of ninja there is nothing cowardly about hiding,planning ambush, assassinating a person while he is in a sleep, this is what ninja do,
They were never meant to fight an open battle, Man to Man in your words, there job was to kill without being noticed.
And Tobi does what a ninja should do, his Tecs are not cowardly,they are a perfect Tool for a ninja.
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Shino Swagg
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Yes, it is a ninja show. But we aren't talking about ninjas doing assasinations or espionage. We are talking about ninjas that fight. All the ninjas in the show fight each other. They go mano a mano like I said. Almost every ninja besides Tobi some way or another goes head to head against other ninjas. We have ninjas like Kisame, Itachi, Hiruzen and Minato who sacrifice themselves for what they believe in and then we have Tobi who is scared to get his hands dirty. Brainwashing Sasuke and so on. Most of his tactics like I said are cowardly. Sasuke, a young ninja, ran into the Kage summit and caused mayhem. Yes, he did need some help from his team but his approach to it was like a boss. Come in with a bang and look for Danzo and fight some Kages along the way. Tobi approached Minato when he was having his baby and with all that planning and catching people off guard his plans were still crushed by Minato. That's sad. He had all that time to plan it perfectly.
teetooktier
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I not only think the OP is right but that it's intentional. He's meant to contrast with Naruto's ballsiness and straight-up fighting.
his just a genius that has space time tech.... his not over rated.... his using akatsuki because... he is master tactician... why risk your life in battle when you can use others to do your work for you... no risk for him..... his just using his head... not like sasuke whos barging in and almost die all the time
