Tobi destroys Madara anyday

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ya ...... tobi has got all new powerssssssssssssssssssss....
he can kick some a** out of madara any day any time.....
 

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Haha, that's just an assumption. Tobi has shown to have more powerful Genjutsu. Madara has been dead most of this time. You calling him master of the sharingan has no value since we haven't seen much of him. A Rinnegan is a Rinnegan as far as I'm concerned. An assumption is an assumption. You can say that it's logical to assume that he has one, but it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been shown in any scan to have a teleportation technique in any form.

HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF HIM!?!?!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?

But looking at it from a side other than my own (wich everyone should do....), yeah, I see your point. Puting all of your faith in Tobi because of a space-time technique (wich I've seen the most often) isn't very smart.

Besides, Madara has Uchuha and Senju power. He's a full fleged Sage of the Six Paths!!! The Sage of the Six Paths defeated the complete Ten-Tailed Beast and even have the power to seal it away and split it apart. I'm sure Madara could beat Tobi and a half-baked bhiju.

Don't get me wrong--Tobi and the ten tails are a force to be wreckoned with--I'd never underestimated him and never will. But asuming Madara has this or Tobi has that is just stupid.

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SPECULATION BITES US IN THE REAR AND RIPS OUR SPINES OUT!!! Stop speculating guys and gals. Let's be honest, it's never worked out very well for us in the past. The only thing it has done is start arguments. Zeish....
 

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Tobi doesn't necessarily needed sealing techs to beat him. He can warp him (of which Madara has no counter too) or take out his soul.

One question though: Do you think Tobi, without the Juubi, can beat Edo Madara?
No I don't think that Tobi could beat Edo Madara without the use of Gedo Mazo. Warping him in his dimension or taking out his soul is easier said than done, considering the offense and defense Madara has to offer. By keeping Susanoo up, he would already have protection against the warping and the Soul removal which needs a touch to its victim. And now consider that the Rinnegan can use other defensive techniques like the Shinra Tensei, too, which is used very fast and probably before Tobi will even touch him, if he will react on him though. The problem is not only that Madara has an undying body but also an unlimited Chakra level, which lets him use his powerful techniques without getting tired, for example the Mokuton, the perfect Susanoo or a bunch of Clones with Susanoo active, while Madara could if it matters hide himself somewhere, for example in a tree like he did it before, while his bunch of clones would fight him while using Susanoo and the other techniques.
 

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HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF HIM!?!?!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?

But looking at it from a side other than my own (wich everyone should do....), yeah, I see your point. Puting all of your faith in Tobi because of a space-time technique (wich I've seen the most often) isn't very smart.

Besides, Madara has Uchuha and Senju power. He's a full fleged Sage of the Six Paths!!! The Sage of the Six Paths defeated the complete Ten-Tailed Beast and even have the power to seal it away and split it apart. I'm sure Madara could beat Tobi and a half-baked bhiju.

Don't get me wrong--Tobi and the ten tails are a force to be wreckoned with--I'd never underestimated him and never will. But asuming Madara has this or Tobi has that is just stupid.

Life leson in the Naruto universe:
SPECULATION BITES US IN THE REAR AND RIPS OUR SPINES OUT!!! Stop speculating guys and gals. Let's be honest, it's never worked out very well for us in the past. The only thing it has done is start arguments. Zeish....
I agree with your post. Though not the Madara part, lol. Tobi has Senju DNA also by the way.
 

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No I don't think that Tobi could beat Edo Madara without the use of Gedo Mazo. Warping him in his dimension or taking out his soul is easier said than done, considering the offense and defense Madara has to offer. By keeping Susanoo up, he would already have protection against the warping and the Soul removal which needs a touch to its victim. And now consider that the Rinnegan can use other defensive techniques like the Shinra Tensei, too, which is used very fast and probably before Tobi will even touch him, if he will react on him though. The problem is not only that Madara has an undying body but also an unlimited Chakra level, which lets him use his powerful techniques without getting tired, for example the Mokuton, the perfect Susanoo or a bunch of Clones with Susanoo active, while Madara could if it matters hide himself somewhere, for example in a tree like he did it before, while his bunch of clones would fight him while using Susanoo and the other techniques.
Tobi can warp inside Susano'o.
 

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So basically this thread is about.... Tobi controlling the strongest tailed beast in the world is stronger then Just madara with no tailed beast or nothin. O_O hmmmmm.

Seems pretty stupid to me. So basically this is the Hashirama vs Madara+Kyuubi fight ?? but just to the extreme. goodness sake.

No point saying Tobi destroys madara anyday .. if its not tobi's own power.. And people stop overrating tobi's S/T jutsu.. Konan screwed that shit up big time.
 

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So basically this thread is about.... Tobi controlling the strongest tailed beast in the world is stronger then Just madara with no tailed beast or nothin. O_O hmmmmm.

Seems pretty stupid to me. So basically this is the Hashirama vs Madara+Kyuubi fight ?? but just to the extreme. goodness sake.

No point saying Tobi destroys madara anyday .. if its not tobi's own power.. And people stop overrating tobi's S/T jutsu.. Konan screwed that shit up big time.
Lol, if you can tell me how Madara counters s/t tech, it'd be much appreciated. This isn't even about Tobi having Juubi anymore.
 

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Lol, if you can tell me how Madara counters s/t tech, it'd be much appreciated. This isn't even about Tobi having Juubi anymore.

Spam mokuton...

And, I think there is some timing to Tobi's S/T jutsu right??.

Also tell me this, How can he warp inside a susano'o??? which was never been shown before. lol.

Also, How is tobi going to against the Perfect Susano'o?? and not get tired?

Cause madara can just keep spaming stuff 24/7.
 

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Heh, heh.
I'd die, laughing and rolling on the floor if Tobi summoned the ten tailed beast and couldn't controll it.
HA HA HA!!! Man, that would be so awsome

He has been a fail all this time, that would a be fitting cliche end for this fail villain.
 

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If it was a one on one battle Tobi would have killed Naruto ages ago.

The other way actually. Tobi is living because it was a 6 vs 4. ;x now if a fresh naruto vs Tobi... one on one.. NAruto has more chances.
 

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Spam mokuton...

And, I think there is some timing to Tobi's S/T jutsu right??.

Also tell me this, How can he warp inside a susano'o??? which was never been shown before. lol.

Also, How is tobi going to against the Perfect Susano'o?? and not get tired?

Cause madara can just keep spaming stuff 24/7.
Here's the real question. How can he not warp inside Susano'o? And no, he's moving his body parts through space at the speed of light basically when goes intangible. When he's normally warping, it's the same. Though it takes longer to warp other people. Also, you failed to mention the 6 bijuu's and Gedo Mazo, and the Rinnegan tech. Space is space, and I'm not talking about outer space. This means he can warp wherever he wants to, when he wants to. Stuff made out of Chakra, such as Susano'o can't restrict him.
 

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its gotta get revived first
 

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Im pretty sure it's accepted by most people that Tobi could in fact beat edo Madara,
the only reason this is still being discussed is because there is Madara fan boys using the logic of "he's awesome so he would win".
But this is to be expected for any character whos even somewhat powerful
although lately I've been hearing especially ridiculous things about how edo Madara>So6P without Juubi.
which is by far the most far off from the truth ,thing i've heard about madara
 

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of course tobi can rinse madara, he can become intangible the only reason the 4th was able to land a hit on him is because of ftg. madara doesnt posses such speed and do may he have the power to kill him in one blow or not he will never be able to get tobi. so yes tobi would destroy madara but really its just common sense
 

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I always thought Tobi was either Obito or Madara's Brother, the one who gave him his eyes, maybe they just swapped and tobi got immortality or something! or maybe he's a genjutsu copy and the whole thing is Just a Dream!
 

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Oh, so NOW you guys say that Gedo Mazo > Perfect Susanoo.
I was reading threads at the time someone posted PS vs. GM.
I was amazed at how everyone was so quick to say Perfect Susanoo because it could just slice Mountains. Now it was said that Gedo Mazo is the vessel of the Juubi. Now everyone's changing their Minds and stuff, saying GM > PS. Bull Shit. You say one thing, stick to it even when things change. It probally started with one person changing their mind, and everyone followed them, and then now nobody is backing up PS.

I personally thought the Gedo Mazo was stronger, and he was connected to the Juubi. Never changed my mind since. I know some people are going to be like, "NAW, I WAS WITH GEDO THE WHOLE TIME." But I know some of you changed sides.
 

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ok so besides people saying tobi rapes madara how does tobi actually do that? if your saying tobi with the jubbi beats edo madara then yes thats obvious the jubbi is dam near unstoppable but if your trying to say edo madara vs just tobi no paths no gedo mazo which is a one on one then madara rapes tobi quite hard lol the reason tobi shit himself when he saw madaras coffin was because the man is a freakin badass he would be very upset if he found out tobi has been bringing shame to his name this whole time rinnegan tobi is not as formidable as edo madara its that simple edo madara has evrything a perfect ninja should have imo
 
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