Tobi destroys Madara anyday

[Strict]

The Mokuton suppresses Bijus but whether it counts for the statue which banned away their chakra is the other question; I doubt it since the statue isn't a Biju. The Juubi isn't a Biju as well, the Bijus are creatures which were created by simply using Juubis Chakra - The Juubi was a demon, or rather a god in the Narutoverse, a monster which was the beginning of Chakra. But though Tobis force with the Juubi would be unimaginable, Madara is still an Edo Tensei, where only sealing techniques can beat him.

And though I imagine more from the Juubi since it had a special Doujutsu, it stays a mere assumption what it could actually do with it.

But, Tobi can use the Human-Path and the Soul Removal Dragon through Gedo Mazo (perhaps by connecting himself with the Gedo Mazo) and combined with the force of the Rinnegan and the Juubi, Tobi should be the superior one.

 

[TobisPawn]

nope madara can counter it with his mokuton substitution. that tech is very useful trap for tobi and his s/t. you make it seem hopeless defeat for madara but that isnt true

But if tobi uses juubi he would win but there are still other possibilities such as madara taking control over the gedo or jubi.

but if we go by a straight match(without "ifs" or unkown possibilities) and also without juubi being in a dormant state tobi has a clear advantage with juubi.

I want to see what happens when madara joins the fight alongside the kyubi that is when things are going to get very interesting

Yeah, but Madara won't have a Mokuton clone out at every time while the real Madara is hiding. That's not how he fights, and he would have no reason for doing it if he has no knowledge on Tobi. And his clones at best can only use complete Susanoo (as of now) so that'll get taken out by Gedo Mazo's lightning chakra volt thing. Its not hopeless for Madara but Tobi would probably win at least 7/10 times with his S/T techs because Madara has no definite counter to them other then him possibly having a Mokuton clone out at every time one would be needed.

And Madara died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan, so I don't think he necessarily knows how to even use Gedo Mazo and because of that, the Juubi.

The Mokuton suppresses Bijus but whether it counts for the statue which banned away their chakra is the other question; I doubt it since the statue isn't a Biju. The Juubi isn't a Biju as well, the Bijus are creatures which were created by simply using Juubis Chakra - The Juubi was a demon, or rather a god in the Narutoverse, a monster which was the beginning of Chakra. But though Tobis force with the Juubi would be unimaginable, Madara is still an Edo Tensei, where only sealing techniques can beat him.

And though I imagine more from the Juubi since it had a special Doujutsu, it stays a mere assumption what it could actually do with it.

But, Tobi can use the Human-Path and the Soul Removal Dragon through Gedo Mazo (perhaps by connecting himself with the Gedo Mazo) and combined with the force of the Rinnegan and the Juubi, Tobi should be the superior one.

Tobi doesn't necessarily needed sealing techs to beat him. He can warp him (of which Madara has no counter too) or take out his soul.

One question though: Do you think Tobi, without the Juubi, can beat Edo Madara?

 

[SilverSlick]

A bunch of tobi fanboys what y'all fail to realize is tobi never fights he has other people fighting for him tobi has no type of jutsu the 4th own him within 3mins hell he is getting own by naruto and company he was getting own so much he was actually force to use the juubi n currently madara owns everything in naruto madara with all 7bijuu gedo statue wud do a lot more damage then tobi so madara > to

The term "fanboy" is nothing more than an ad hominem and has no real value in this discussion. Everything is subjective. You yourself can be described as a "fanboy" more so than I can since that whole post was pretty much baseless statements. Now, I hate being redundant, but I'm going to say it again. Madara has no counter to S/T tech.

Seriously people, I don't know how hard it is to understand this. Tobi's S/T technique defeats the purpose of Perfect Susano'o, meteors, mokuton, clones, you name it. Battle records are irrelevant. You know one thing Madara lacks that Minato had? A S/T tech. A>B>C logic does not work here. The fact that Tobi has 6 bijuus, who retains their normal abilities, spells overkill.

About Tobi facing Guy, Naruto, Kakashi and Bee. For one, two perfect Jinchuriki>5 kages.
There is no evidence stating that Tobi is getting his ass whipped. So what if he broke a sweat. How do we even know he was breaking a sweat anyways? Anyways, last time I checked, Tobi blocked a Rasengan with his fan.

People always bring up that Madara has mokuton, Perfect Susano'o, Rinnegan, Senju DNA, meteors, yada yada yada, so on and so on. Well people, does he have a counter for Tobi's S/T tech? Please, I'm begging you, go find a counter for Madara because its obvious he doesn't have one. Tobi has Rinnegan and Senju DNA anyways. You just can't ignore stuff like this.

 

[kellzfresh]

Tobi doesn't need the Juubi to beat him. His S/T techs get the job done. And Perfect Susanoo can't tank a mountain busting TBB. It has no durability feats to even suggest that.

U sure, konan hurt tobi bad wit just paper bombs. Against a good strategist, (uchihas, konan, minato) even the S/T techs can be beaten.
Madara's susanoo will always protect him, he doesn't hav a problem of chakra so if tobi keeps jumpin and dodging madara then it will be a drag.

TBB destroyed mountains, the PS sword destroyed mountains. The same power as a bijuu, madara had no reason to lie.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Tobi is weak and fail villain. Both Madara and Orochimaru needs to take over as final villains.

He has this greatest power of the Gedo Mazo (which is not even his power to begin with), yet he is nervous to the point that he can't even tell the difference between rain and his own sweat!

 

[TobisPawn]

U sure, konan hurt tobi bad wit just paper bombs. Against a good strategist, (uchihas, konan, minato) even the S/T techs can be beaten.
Madara's susanoo will always protect him, he doesn't hav a problem of chakra so if tobi keeps jumpin and dodging madara then it will be a drag.

TBB destroyed mountains, the PS sword destroyed mountains. The same power as a bijuu, madara had no reason to lie.

Madara has no counter to Tobi's S/T techs. Mind telling me one? And Tobi can warp into P.Susanoo just as he warped into Jinton. Chakra constructs don't hinder his S/T techs in any way.

Perfect Susanoo cutting through a mountain doesn't imply that it can withstand a mountain buster, let alone 6.

 

[Champ]

Tobi is weak and fail villain. Both Madara and Orochimaru needs to take over as final villains.

He has this greatest power of the Gedo Mazo (which is not even his power to begin with), yet he is nervous to the point that he can't even tell the difference between rain and his own sweat!

I agree uchihajin

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Madara has no counter to Tobi's S/T techs. Mind telling me one? And Tobi can warp into P.Susanoo just as he warped into Jinton. Chakra constructs don't hinder his S/T techs in any way.

Perfect Susanoo cutting through a mountain doesn't imply that it can withstand a mountain buster, let alone 6.

All Madara has to do is avoid the Gedo Mazo and aim for Tobi alone.

Madara will beat this fail villain mid difficulty at the very most.

 

[TobisPawn]

All Madara has to do is avoid the Gedo Mazo and aim for Tobi alone.

Madara will beat this fail villain mid difficulty at the very most.

And how does Madara hurt Tobi while simply "avoiding" Gedo Mazo? Tobi warps him away at anytime.

And if the Juubi's involved...

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

And how does Madara hurt Tobi while simply "avoiding" Gedo Mazo? Tobi warps him away at anytime.

And if the Juubi's involved...

Lol if a punk like Minato beat his @$$, then there is no way a legendary Uchiha God like Madara won't be able to find a way through it

all Madara has to do is time his attacks when Tobi solidifies, because Tobi can only stay in the intangible mode 5 mins at max and Tobi also has to solidify to absorb anyone, and he takes longer anyone other than himself

 

[SilverSlick]

All Madara has to do is avoid the Gedo Mazo and aim for Tobi alone.

Madara will beat this fail villain mid difficulty at the very most.

Wow, lets see how that goes. Since there also the 6 bijuus and Tobi's intangibility factor. Remember his fight with Foo and Torune? That's basically how this fight will turn out, the way you put it.

 

[arv993]

Yeah, but Madara won't have a Mokuton clone out at every time while the real Madara is hiding. That's not how he fights, and he would have no reason for doing it if he has no knowledge on Tobi. And his clones at best can only use complete Susanoo (as of now) so that'll get taken out by Gedo Mazo's lightning chakra volt thing. Its not hopeless for Madara but Tobi would probably win at least 7/10 times with his S/T techs because Madara has no definite counter to them other then him possibly having a Mokuton clone out at every time one would be needed.

And Madara died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan, so I don't think he necessarily knows how to even use Gedo Mazo and because of that, the Juubi.

Tobi doesn't necessarily needed sealing techs to beat him. He can warp him (of which Madara has no counter too) or take out his soul.

One question though: Do you think Tobi, without the Juubi, can beat Edo Madara?

why would he not use them. if tobi is tring to absorb him tactically by going underground or through objects. madara would obviously try to trick him and try to counter it not just stand there looking pretty. he does have a decent counter to the s/t tech

mokuton substitution can only be seen through by madara as well so tobi can somewhat easily fall for a trap like this.

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u make it out to be too easy. madara isnt going to underestimate tobi i dont see why he wouldnt use most of his powers against him.

to the last part i dont think its impossible as i said its a possibility he is the one who unlocked the rinnegan, we dont kno the full extent of his knowledge on using rinnegan.

 

[SilverSlick]

Lol if a punk like Minato beat his @$$, then there is no way a legendary Uchiha God like Madara won't be able to find a way through it

all Madara has to do is time his attacks when Tobi solidifies, because Tobi can only stay in the intangible mode 5 mins at max and Tobi also has to solidify to absorb anyone, and he takes longer anyone other than himself

You're not getting it are you? What did Minato have? A S/T tech plus his base speed being the fastest in the series. Madara has neither S/T nor speed feats comparable to Minato.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Wow, lets see how that goes. Since there also the 6 bijuus and Tobi's intangibility factor. Remember his fight with Foo and Torune? That's basically how this fight will turn out, the way you put it.

Every jutsu has a weakness, this is Madara who even broke out of the Edo-tensei all by himself. I won't be surprised, if he could brake out of Tobi's petty "dimensions" in no time.

This is just child's play to Madara

 

[SilverSlick]

Every jutsu has a weakness, this is Madara who even broke out of the Edo-tensei all by himself. I won't be surprised, if he could brake out of Tobi's petty "dimensions" in no time.

This is just child's play to Madara

Are ****ing with me? Madara does not have a S/T technique. That's the only known way to get out of Tobi's pocket dimension.

 

[arv993]

Every jutsu has a weakness, this is Madara who even broke out of the Edo-tensei all by himself. I won't be surprised, if he could brake out of Tobi's petty "dimensions" in no time.

This is just child's play to Madara

You are severely underestimating tobi. just stop the trolling please.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Are ****ing with me? Madara does not have a S/T technique. That's the only known way to get out of Tobi's pocket dimension.

You never know, Madara is the MASTER of the sharingan, not ****ing Tobi okay?

Madara is the true master of the EMS + Rinnegan,

so it is very logical to assume that he knows space-time techniques like Kakashi.

Tobi is just a wannabe like Kakashi or Danzo, who can't even switch off their own stolen sharingan

 

[Wallcrawler]

Madara would own him. Even if he has the "incomplete" Madara can spam like a mo fo lets see how it fairs against multiple meteors with massive scale WS all while having to deal with Ultimate Susanoo. We are talking about unlimited chakra inability to die and His Rinnegan makes fighting the TB much easier. All Tobi has is teleportation Not enough to take down a man like madara since he had that ability when he was threatened and was crapping his pants when he saw him.

 

[Wparker6804]

A few days ago I saw some madara fanboys saying that xd
OT: Yeah Tobi>madara just with his bijuu's and gedo mazo. With the ten tails he should be able to beat madara mid difficulty.

Heh, heh.
I'd die, laughing and rolling on the floor if Tobi summoned the ten tailed beast and couldn't controll it.
HA HA HA!!! Man, that would be so awsome

 

[SilverSlick]

You never know, Madara is the MASTER of the sharingan, not ****ing Tobi okay?

Madara is the true master of the EMS + Rinnegan, so it is very logical to assume that he knows space-time techniques like Kakashi.

Tobi is just a wannabe like Kakashi or Danzo, who can't even switch off their own stolen sharingan

Haha, that's just an assumption. Tobi has shown to have more powerful Genjutsu. Madara has been dead most of this time. You calling him master of the sharingan has no value since we haven't seen much of him. A Rinnegan is a Rinnegan as far as I'm concerned. An assumption is an assumption. You can say that it's logical to assume that he has one, but it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been shown in any scan to have a teleportation technique in any form.