Toad Sage Mode vs Dragon Sage Mode

[Xlad]

TSM and DSM have the same enhancements due to balancing equal portions of energy. They only can come down to:

TSM:
- Frog Fu
- Frog Call
- Toad Summons

DSM:
- Muki Tensei
- White Rage
- Snake Summons

If I had to take into account who is the better user, I have to say... Naruto.

Kabuto's White Rage is more effective in close areas than open fields. Muki Tensei can only go as far as a sneak attack. Even then, Naruto had the durability to take in those spikes or have the sensing to react to it. There are better reactions feats from him since Kabuto's best feat was dodging Susanoo Arrow, which is still a pretty fast attack. Naruto's attacks are also powerful enough to graze through even Juubito as well as having more effective taijutsu.

 

[Gerkak]

no, the explosion isnt that big and naruto only creates it from a distance(before leaping at the enemy) if it detonates it would be no where near kabuto

Kabuto is a close range fighter, he would be near naruto anyway. An average sage mode rasenshuriken's explosion nearly covered kurama let alone the much larger variant. Kabuto's best bet is to jump over the FRS and let it explode somewhere away from him rather than him causing the attack to explode before it is thrown, causing an explosion that can engulf both him and naruto.

 

[Aznkidd]

And how is Naruto gonna stop Inorganic Reanimation? Naruto has threat perception, but it won't tell him what the threat is. It wouldn't tell him to jump or how to avoid the Inorganic Reanimation?

Did you read the manga?
Also you need to read your own text over again 100 times and you will realise how stupid it is...

 

[ShiroT]

Kabuto is a close range fighter, he would be near naruto anyway. An average sage mode rasenshuriken's explosion nearly covered kurama let alone the much larger variant. Kabuto's best bet is to jump over the FRS and let it explode somewhere away from him rather than him causing the attack to explode before it is thrown, causing an explosion that can engulf both him and naruto.

your wrong, sage mode aside kabuto can fight at all ranges as he shown in his fight.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Did you read the manga?
Also you need to read your own text over again 100 times and you will realise how stupid it is...

Did you? Tell me, what can Naruto do to stop Inorganic Reanimation once it starts while in Sage Mode and holding a Fuuton: Rasenshuriken. Go.

 

[Gerkak]

Inorganic Reanimation is a threat coming from all around. The only place Naruto can go is up. Now, Kabuto also has heightened perception, he can tell Naruto is gonna move, track his move and launch a White Rage at him while he's moving up. Distracted by his thought process to jump, and having nowhere to go while in the air, he's an open target.

All round. white rage is only a mid range attack(10 m- 30 m). SM naruto jumps way higher than that as shown

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. This is the reason why the small crammed cave was perfect place for kabuto fight the uchiha's because it suit his fighting style. Kabuto's inorganic transmigration is no match for kaguyas.

 

[Gerkak]

your wrong, sage mode aside kabuto can fight at all ranges as he shown in his fight.

Really, and when did he use long range attacks? Through out the fight kabuto mostly used short range attacks and a few mid range attacks like white rage and muki tensei

 

[ShiroT]

Really, and when did he use long range attacks? Through out the fight kabuto mostly used short range attacks and a few mid range attacks like white rage and muki tensei

kabuto specifically has the sound 4(arrow's and genjutsu)

 

[Hazo]

They're equal in terms

 

[Gerkak]

kabuto specifically has the sound 4(arrow's and genjutsu)

The truth is DSM kabuto>TSM naruto.

The enhancements kabuto has, have almost nothing to do with DSM. Healing factor is uzumaki DNA, natural energy absorbtion is juugo DNA, liquidation is suigetsu DNA and the rest are the sound 5 powers. The only thing DSM granted kabuto was snake eyelid thing, threat perception and horns.

Based on that TSM>DSM

The above is my first post. My point wasn't that TSM naruto could defeat DSM kabuto, My point was that naruto's TSM feats were way better than kabuto's DSM feats without his bio enhancements. I said this because people usually put DSM above TSM because of kabuto's bio enhancements when those enhancements have nothing to do with DSM. Without them, DSM isn't really that impressive.

 

[ShiroT]

The above is my first post. My point wasn't that TSM naruto could defeat DSM kabuto, My point was that naruto's TSM feats were way better than kabuto's DSM feats without his bio enhancements. I said this because people usually put DSM above TSM because of kabuto's bio enhancements when those enhancements have nothing to do with DSM. with out them, DSM isn't really that impressive.

which is why i said sage mode aside kabuto fights at all ranges

 

[Gerkak]

which is why i said sage mode aside kabuto fights at all ranges

Oh I see, I guess I missed that. My point still remains though by feats TSM>DSM

 

[HiddenSound]

TSM is more aligned with strength
DSM, agility

They both have their pros and cons. I personally, obviously, prefer DSM.

 

[Punk Hazard]

All round. white rage is only a mid range attack(10 m- 30 m). SM naruto jumps way higher than that as shown

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. This is the reason why the small crammed cave was perfect place for kabuto fight the uchiha's because it suit his fighting style. Kabuto's inorganic transmigration is no match for kaguyas.

If it's affecting all around Naruto from 10-30M, with Naruto as the epicenter, he'd have to jump. If he jumps, he is vulnerable to White Rage. I'm pretty sure I spoke of this in clearer detail a couple posts back.

 

[Aznkidd]

Did you? Tell me, what can Naruto do to stop Inorganic Reanimation once it starts while in Sage Mode and holding a Fuuton: Rasenshuriken. Go.

Well you seem doesnt understand that your own words soloed you ?
You said in ur previous comment : naruto has threat perception, then right after that you said by having threat perception doesnt give you any threat perception. Do you even know what are you saying ?

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I hate to admit that DSM kabuto is stronger than SM naruto

SM naruto have brute strength with monstrous FRS.

DSM kabuto had Uzumaki cells,Senju cells, suigetsu's liquidity cells, Juugo cells, kimmimaru's cells.these cells make kabuto much more stronger than Just DSM kabuto

Muki tensei and Dragon jutsu which paralyze his victims are jutsu are OP jutsu.
DSM kabuto is in top 6.

 

[Gerkak]

If it's affecting all around Naruto from 10-30M, with Naruto as the epicenter, he'd have to jump. If he jumps, he is vulnerable to White Rage. I'm pretty sure I spoke of this in clearer detail a couple posts back.

You did, which is why I said that white rage doesn't have the range to catch naruto when he jumps. The technique isn't a long range one. This is my point

 

[WalksInShadows]

TSM all the way, by country miles. DSM is so garbage. Aside from the basic perks, there's a limited resistance to genjutsu and the person needs an environment to compliment the aforementioned perks. Don't really need to go into the laundry list of perks for TSM.

 

[Retsu]

The above is my first post. My point wasn't that TSM naruto could defeat DSM kabuto, My point was that naruto's TSM feats were way better than kabuto's DSM feats without his bio enhancements. I said this because people usually put DSM above TSM because of kabuto's bio enhancements when those enhancements have nothing to do with DSM. Without them, DSM isn't really that impressive.

This is true, tsm seems to have WAY better strength and durability, dsm seems like more refined sensing and evasion, tsm gives a better advantage overall since Kabuto's main advantage was a variety of ninjutsu, which in theory could be learned by a tsm user

 

[Gerkak]

This is true, tsm seems to have WAY better strength and durability, dsm seems like more refined sensing and evasion, tsm gives a better advantage overall since Kabuto's main advantage was a variety of ninjutsu, which in theory could be learned by a tsm user

Indeed. At least you understand