Just because something was manga fact in the past doesnt mean it remains that way. One jutsu is what was accepted back then. That was many chapters ago. WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION. With this new information,things change. Madara just recently gave us new information along with the actions of kakashi and obito in the manga as proof to back it up. Its the new manga fact, just accept it. Remember, it used to be manga fact that itachi was evil and was doing everything he did for the sake of his own well being. We learned otherwise.but until it was proven wrong, if someone said itachi was good, people would think he was bulshitting. But we learned how that turned out.
To the people that said i was wrong about kakashi and obito's eye
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Uzumakisan
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Pratically all of Obito's fights were based on him touching someone to transfer to other dimension.
Including his last fight against Guy, Kakashi, Bee and Naruto.
This thread makes no sence.
Including his last fight against Guy, Kakashi, Bee and Naruto.
This thread makes no sence.
Uzumakisan
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This makes a lot more sence...
Like one eye for "absorbing", other eye for "expeling".
Obito's eye absobs things to other dimention.
Kakashi's eye expel things to other Dimension.
Rikudou Sennin balls
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Sorry but I think your wrong. Obito can't use a long distance Kamui. Look at the whole Manga at every Tobi/Obito fight. He's never extended his Kamui outside his touch. A prime example would be him Obito VS Minato. Where the whole basis of the fight was for Minato to not get touched by Obito. If Obito could've used the extended Kamui, Minato would've just been sucked up from a distance.
The case of the Gadou mazo statue is probably more simple than you think. Obito has a link to the statue so all he had to do was phase the statue to the other world. The same thing would happen if Kakashi used Kamui against Obito himself. Now as to this chapter it seems if Kakashi uses Kamui to warp Obito while Obito uses his own Kamui it increases the warp speed.
I have a feeling Kakashi will get both eyes getting the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's dead zersu's only prolonging his life and Obito just for fitted the kyuubi to Naruto. (Obito's the only person in Naruto history to get 2 beast taken away on the same day and is still alive)
The case of the Gadou mazo statue is probably more simple than you think. Obito has a link to the statue so all he had to do was phase the statue to the other world. The same thing would happen if Kakashi used Kamui against Obito himself. Now as to this chapter it seems if Kakashi uses Kamui to warp Obito while Obito uses his own Kamui it increases the warp speed.
I have a feeling Kakashi will get both eyes getting the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's dead zersu's only prolonging his life and Obito just for fitted the kyuubi to Naruto. (Obito's the only person in Naruto history to get 2 beast taken away on the same day and is still alive)
Rikudou Sennin balls
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Sorry but I think your wrong. Obito can't use a long distance Kamui. Look at the whole Manga at every Tobi/Obito fight. He's never extended his Kamui outside his touch. A prime example would be him Obito VS Minato. Where the whole basis of the fight was for Minato to not get touched by Obito. If Obito could've used the extended Kamui, Minato would've just been sucked up from a distance.
The case of the Gadou mazo statue is probably more simple than you think. Obito has a link to the statue so all he had to do was phase the statue to the other world. The same thing would happen if Kakashi used Kamui against Obito himself. Now as to this chapter it seems if Kakashi uses Kamui to warp Obito while Obito uses his own Kamui it increases the warp speed.
I have a feeling Kakashi will get both eyes getting the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's dead zetsu's only prolonging his life and Obito just for fitted the kyuubi to Naruto. (Obito's the only person in Naruto history to get 2 beast taken away on the same day and is still alive)
The case of the Gadou mazo statue is probably more simple than you think. Obito has a link to the statue so all he had to do was phase the statue to the other world. The same thing would happen if Kakashi used Kamui against Obito himself. Now as to this chapter it seems if Kakashi uses Kamui to warp Obito while Obito uses his own Kamui it increases the warp speed.
I have a feeling Kakashi will get both eyes getting the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's dead zetsu's only prolonging his life and Obito just for fitted the kyuubi to Naruto. (Obito's the only person in Naruto history to get 2 beast taken away on the same day and is still alive)
We don't have new information kid. You are choosing madara's words over Kakashi's when the difference is Kakashi PROVED his theory correct. The actions of Kakashi and Obito in the manga also prove you are wrong. Obito has never sent anything to the other dimension without touching them first. Never. Not once. There is not a single instance where he has done what Kakashi has done. He has been shown to be able to take things out of the other dimension without touching them, but that is not long range kamui because his kamui allows him to connect with the other dimension. Without a connection, i.e touching the object he can not nor has he ever sent anything to the other dimension.
The ability of the right eye is to kamui parts of himself to the other dimension while keeping the rest in the real world. It's still kamui, just using it on a smaller scale. It's ONE JUTSU. Do not forget that Kakashi also uses kamui, so you choosing Madara's words over Kakashi's words+DEMONSTRATION is the dumbest thing anyone can do. There is no new information. Madara simply said reiterated the same wrong thinking that kakashi was thinking back then, that Obito can slip through people. Kakashi PROVED that wrong already. So what new info do you have? None.
Re: To the idiots that said i was wrong about kakashi and obito's eye
I love how this ***** keeps saying manga facts. Dude you're arguing against not only naruto base but against Kishi stop it man you lose
That Itachi part makes no sense. Whether he was evil or cool or good or justified was opinion not fact. Even today people have different opinions on him. We had no idea about his motives back then so basically we had no info back then we actually have info on kamui now
The only thing that hasn't been proven in this topic is that we have only seen Kakashi use Kamui at long distance while Obito does it at short distance.
The ability is esentially the same, but what varies is the range and the speed of execution.
Both Kakashi and Obito can transport things to the Kamui dimension, and also there is a chapter with the name "one jutsu".
Everything fits just fine...
The ability is esentially the same, but what varies is the range and the speed of execution.
Both Kakashi and Obito can transport things to the Kamui dimension, and also there is a chapter with the name "one jutsu".
Everything fits just fine...
you do realize obitos eye doesnt phase him threw anything right?..he sends the peice of his body that is going to be attacked to the other dimension at the perfect time, therefor making it look like its going thrw him, this has been stated. and is manga fact. maybe im miss understanding you, but what are you throwing in the face of the people who disagreed with you?On my last post:You must be registered for see links
i talked about how obito and kakashi can use the same ability of kamui.
That is, kakashi can teleport himself in and out of the dimension, and obito can use the long range kamui, as proven by the manga page on my last post when he deflected kakashi's kamui on the statue.
On my last post people denied this, and there was one that denied obito could use it long range when there was proof right in their face that he cancelled it from afar, let alone proof of the other claim that kakashi could use kamui to teleport himself like obito.
everyone claimed it was just a way to negate the other eye, and its an original power pertaining to each individual eye like amaterasu...
well this weeks chapter proved that wrong.
we learned that the right eye (obito's) is actually containing the power to slip through things. It is a different ability than interdimensional transportation, as seen in the scans i provide below.
That is the special power of the right eye. To phase his body through objects. Madara states this himself.
Burn retard kids for your ignorance. BURN!
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