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Espadara Uchiha

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Prime Hiruzen doesn't exist. Young Hiruzen doesn't know every Konoha jutsu, meaning he can't neutralize; Old Hiruzen does, but his body is too weak to be effective. (I would like to see someone do a Hiruzen based time travel fic though.)

Itachi might be able to solo anyone due to Totsuka Blade. However, we do not know the full abilities and drawbacks of Totsuka Blade, meaning we can't 100% for sure say Totsuka Blade gg. Also, Itachi can not fight long battles, due to low stamina/his crippling disease. (Anyone know where the hell Itachi found them anyway?)

Danzo lost, not because he's fodder, but because he's 72. We already saw that Hiruzen himself was losing strength from old Age, but Danzo was older when he was killed. For anyone saying 'Senju cells made him stronger', let me remind you he had to spend energy to keep the Senju cells under control, so his body was technically in worst condition.

Also for Danzo, yes he was remarkably douchey, and caused a lot of problems, and committed sins against Humanity. That doesn't mean that's he's some wannabe major villain, wanting to rule the world 'for the evulz'. He wants to protect Konoha. That doesn't mean he would be a tyrannical dictator, knowing full well that Konoha would take away his Hokage title if he went too far.

Obito did not join Madara because he wanted 14-year old *****. He did it because 1) He just saw Kakashi kill Rin, going against his promise to Obito and the Will of Fire, shattering Obito's view of the world, and 2) He didn't want to live in a world where someone as innocent as Rin be killed for the happiness of others.

Sasuke is an insane douche because he saw his entire family be murdered by his older brother before being horrifically mind-raped.

Madara wasn't planning for Infinite Tsukuyomi to become a god. He genuinely wanted to be the savior of the world; you can see this before BZ transforms him, when he declares himself the savior, despite the fact it was only in front of Team 7 and BZ. BZ is an arrogant little douche, and as seen from when he mocked Obito, he also mocked Madara's dream of being a savior.

Prime Kiba can't travel at the speed of Darkness.

Shipping wars are ****ing stupid. Sure, I have ships of my own, (Naru/Ino or Naru/Tayuya and Sasu/Hina) And I have pairings I loathe, (Naru/Hina), but argueing with other people over their ships is ****ing pointless. No matter how many times you declare how MC/LF is the best pairing ever, the Author doesn't give a shit.
 

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Don't tell us what to do!
 

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Only read the first sentence. I agree.
 

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Stopped at Prime Hiruzen
He knows all jutsu in Konoha, and had the neutralizer.
This is just going by facts
 

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Calm down bro, let people say what they want. There are going to be some crazed fans there, but we just gotta deal with them

I do agree with you wholeheartedly though on everything you said
 

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Apparently you don't believe in the hype...
 

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You must be in straight up denial OP, Prime Hiruzen exists :coffee:
 

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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Finally, a sane, fair, fan, seriously, the insane douchiness and hypocrisy of some of the fans really gets annoying.
 

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Espadara Uchiha

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And naturally, the butthurt fans come flocking...

Prime Hiruzen DOES NOT EXIST. The only ways he COULD is if Kabuto Edo Tensai'd him Madara style or if Hiruzen's mind went back into his Prime Body.

The Hype is fake, ya Prime***s.

Itachi isn't godly, either. He can't solo everyone in existence. He's not the smartest character in the world. He is a deeply flawed person, WHICH HE EVEN ****ING ADMITS.

For the love of Jashin's soft face, stop with the ****ing aggressive fanboying! Every ****ing thread I see nowadays that attempts to paint a character in a positive light just has posts loling about 'ITACHI SOLOES GG' or 'PRIME HIRUZEN WRECKS BELIEVE IN THE HYPE'.

Jashin dammit! I'm sick of this shit! The best thing about Naruto ending will be the fact that all of you Red eyed no visine Totsuka blade ****s and Prime Old wrinkled balls will have no one to promote your gay idols to!

Stop with this neutralizing shit, stop with the Totsuka blade shit. For the love of Jashin!
 

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And naturally, the butthurt fans come flocking...

Prime Hiruzen DOES NOT EXIST. The only ways he COULD is if Kabuto Edo Tensai'd him Madara style or if Hiruzen's mind went back into his Prime Body.

The Hype is fake, ya Prime***s.


Itachi isn't godly, either. He can't solo everyone in existence. He's not the smartest character in the world. He is a deeply flawed person, WHICH HE EVEN ****ING ADMITS.

For the love of Jashin's soft face, stop with the ****ing aggressive fanboying! Every ****ing thread I see nowadays that attempts to paint a character in a positive light just has posts loling about 'ITACHI SOLOES GG' or 'PRIME HIRUZEN WRECKS BELIEVE IN THE HYPE'.

Jashin dammit! I'm sick of this shit! The best thing about Naruto ending will be the fact that all of you Red eyed no visine Totsuka blade ****s and Prime Old wrinkled balls will have no one to promote your gay idols to!

Stop with this neutralizing shit, stop with the Totsuka blade shit. For the love of Jashin!
If you want to deny manga facts, I am fine with that.
But do not taint the children's minds with such blasphemy.
 

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And naturally, the butthurt fans come flocking...

Prime Hiruzen DOES NOT EXIST. The only ways he COULD is if Kabuto Edo Tensai'd him Madara style or if Hiruzen's mind went back into his Prime Body.

The Hype is fake, ya Prime***s.

Itachi isn't godly, either. He can't solo everyone in existence. He's not the smartest character in the world. He is a deeply flawed person, WHICH HE EVEN ****ING ADMITS.

For the love of Jashin's soft face, stop with the ****ing aggressive fanboying! Every ****ing thread I see nowadays that attempts to paint a character in a positive light just has posts loling about 'ITACHI SOLOES GG' or 'PRIME HIRUZEN WRECKS BELIEVE IN THE HYPE'.

Jashin dammit! I'm sick of this shit! The best thing about Naruto ending will be the fact that all of you Red eyed no visine Totsuka blade ****s and Prime Old wrinkled balls will have no one to promote your gay idols to!

Stop with this neutralizing shit, stop with the Totsuka blade shit. For the love of Jashin!

Thanks again, I'm sick of all the Itachi-fap, look folks, no, Itachi can't solo Obito, no, Obito didn't fear him, no, he couldn't solo Madara either, yes, he beat Nagato, but that was because Kabuto was an idiot, believe it or not mind-raping your brother for what feels to him like three days is a bad ****ing idea! and no, Itachi wasn't the smartest character in the manga, if anything, Black Zetsu, and Madara was smarter than Itachi anyway (possibly Obito too).
 

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If you want to deny manga facts, I am fine with that.
But do not taint the children's minds with such blasphemy.

What Manga facts? That one where Iruka calls Hiruzen the greatest Hokage? You think Iruka ever knew the Shodaime or the Nidaime, or even got anywhere near the Yondaime? Of course Hiruzen would be the greatest Hokage to him; he's the only one he bloody knows.

And knowing all of the jutsu in the village doesn't mean shit if your body is already wearing down from old age and your chakra reserves aren't high enough to repeatedly use all of them.

Your 'Prime Hiruzen' can only exist in the form of young Hiruzen with Old Hiruzen's mind, which would never happen. That's like saying Prime Danzo is young Danzo, but with Shisui's eye and the Sharingarm, or Prime Sasuke is current Sasuke with his Curse Seal.
 

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What Manga facts? That one where Iruka calls Hiruzen the greatest Hokage? You think Iruka ever knew the Shodaime or the Nidaime, or even got anywhere near the Yondaime? Of course Hiruzen would be the greatest Hokage to him; he's the only one he bloody knows.

And knowing all of the jutsu in the village doesn't mean shit if your body is already wearing down from old age and your chakra reserves aren't high enough to repeatedly use all of them.

Your 'Prime Hiruzen' can only exist in the form of young Hiruzen with Old Hiruzen's mind, which would never happen. That's like saying Prime Danzo is young Danzo, but with Shisui's eye and the Sharingarm, or Prime Sasuke is current Sasuke with his Curse Seal.

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So should I believe Masashi, or you?
You also keep bringing up his "wearing down body".
He didn't have those problems in his prime.
 

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And naturally, the butthurt fans come flocking...

Prime Hiruzen DOES NOT EXIST. The only ways he COULD is if Kabuto Edo Tensai'd him Madara style or if Hiruzen's mind went back into his Prime Body.

The Hype is fake, ya Prime***s.

Itachi isn't godly, either. He can't solo everyone in existence. He's not the smartest character in the world. He is a deeply flawed person, WHICH HE EVEN ****ING ADMITS.

For the love of Jashin's soft face, stop with the ****ing aggressive fanboying! Every ****ing thread I see nowadays that attempts to paint a character in a positive light just has posts loling about 'ITACHI SOLOES GG' or 'PRIME HIRUZEN WRECKS BELIEVE IN THE HYPE'.

Jashin dammit! I'm sick of this shit! The best thing about Naruto ending will be the fact that all of you Red eyed no visine Totsuka blade ****s and Prime Old wrinkled balls will have no one to promote your gay idols to!

Stop with this neutralizing shit, stop with the Totsuka blade shit. For the love of Jashin!

Someone's jimmies have been rustled by Lord Itachi's crows
 
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