[Debate] To both believers and none believers in the Illuminati Global Conspiracy (seriously)

YowYan

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Prove it. You can't? Then don't state it as if it is fact.

I expected a bit more from you :/. They do exist. Signs, happenings, patterns everywhere.
Though I highly doubt David Icke's theory on lizards running our government is true. Maybe he meant it as a symbolic understanding.
The so-called 'lizards' being a group of normal people that are cold-blooded in terms of caring for their fellow men, and are only power driven.
 

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"All world leaders are a part of a conspiracy to enslave the human race"
While I don't agree with the whole 'reptilian' part, but he could be using a metamorph. I can agree with him that all world leaders aim for this. Believe it or not, you're not free- they only put up laws that make you feel like you're free but are we ever truly free to be ourselves? nope, there's always something that causes constant clashes between individuals in our society. Lets take for example 'marijuana' smoker. People view them as a burden to society, because of the fact they smoke weed. Why? media overly reacts to what those people do, why? the media works with the government, why? the government wants to manipulate society into making laws against certain things that a group of people do. Why? to slowly take away our rights. Why? to enslave us without actually getting their own hands dirty. The government does this all the time, people just don't see it or turn a blind eye.
I honestly don't care if someone smokes weed, it's their life. Just as long as they treat others wth respect and are good ppl, then I'm fine with it. which I've met many who were decent people with that "bad habit"
Same thing is happening with the shootings. We keep hearing tragic events that has made more people willing to give up their weapons to keep the nation 'safer' exactly what the government wants. Once we don't have any means to protect ourselves, we're done. They wont strike immediately. They will do everything slowly.
I could be wrong, but we're talking about the government. I still cant seem to figure out that is the state and religion don't mix, how come homosexuals cant have the same rights of a marriage couple. The name of the union matters not, but just the rights. States don't give them those right. Yet exclaim that the government has nothing to do with religion- (insert 'bitch please' face here)

"In god we trust" "under one god" hmm, what? I don't understand this anymore (sarcasm)

While some conspiracies are 'trash' some are not. You just have to believe in your own beliefs and analyze those of others, if they don't fit with your thoughts, then don't follow them. It doesn't hurt anyone either way.
 
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Let me add how cleverly they execute their plans. Instead of forcibly taking away our constitutional rights, they create situations that make the people WANT to let go of their constitutional rights in trade for a fake sense of security. example: gun laws. In other words, they literally manipulate our opinions..atleast, those that live with a box over their head.
 

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Let me add how cleverly they execute their plans. Instead of forcibly taking away our constitutional rights, they create situations that make the people WANT to let go of their constitutional rights in trade for a fake sense of security. example: gun laws. In other words, they literally manipulate our opinions..atleast, those that live with a box over their head.

Or rather one in their homes, i.e idiot box a.k.a T.V.
The sad truth of the matter is people want to be controlled, they don't really want responsibility for themselves because they wouldn't last very long, that's why cities and governments were created in the first place. Most people are weak and easily manipulated and I feel very little pity for them when shit blows up in their faces.
 

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There are some conspiracies that are plausible but the rest are just hogwash imho. And i do not believe in a group controlling everything when power struggles exists in all varying levels of human social structures and that includes this hypothetical one world government/society that when there is left nothing to control or manipulate they themselves would supplant each other for power.
 

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There are some conspiracies that are plausible but the rest are just hogwash imho. And i do not believe in a group controlling everything when power struggles exists in all varying levels of human social structures and that includes this hypothetical one world government/society that when there is left nothing to control or manipulate they themselves would supplant each other for power.

Well, I can agree on the fact that there's A LOT of misinformation out there, but do some research for a couple o' years and you'll start to see the patterns that connect most global topics.
 

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There are some conspiracies that are plausible but the rest are just hogwash imho. And i do not believe in a group controlling everything when power struggles exists in all varying levels of human social structures and that includes this hypothetical one world government/society that when there is left nothing to control or manipulate they themselves would supplant each other for power.

Exactly. They want you to believe they are well organized so they don't have to fear a revolt from all citizens.
 
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