We could already see battle between brothers, where both were casting standard Sharingan illusions on each other - when it comes to strenght of illusions, they are comparable.
Being a kage guard makes you strong, but doesn't mean he has a 5 in genjutsu.
We could already see battle between brothers, where both were casting standard Sharingan illusions on each other - when it comes to strenght of illusions, they are comparable.
That doesnt mean hes imprevious to Genjutsus. Kurenai has 5/5 in Gen, yet she was affected by her own illusion that Itachi reflected at her.
He was barely able to move his hands, I dont know how can you call something like that a "resictance".
she still broke out of it my biting her lip and she was paralyzed. Moving at all after being paralyzed under Itachi genjutsu is no small feat. Paralyzing genjutus is one of the most effective, as obviously it leaves you hopeless completely. This being used under genjutsu is complete mind control preventing one to move. Orochimaru being able to move in attempts to break, before being STOPPED shows resistance.
In all we cant determine completely is genjtusu was be a factor, unless Orochimaru tried to perform his ritual again. This being the only way Sasuke would be successful in completely defeating him.
Be realistic. The Kage had major difficulties in overcoming Susanoos incomplete stage. It took Tsunade and A with Oonokis power boost, in order to fully destroy the ribcage of Madaras Susanoo. It took A with Oonokis power boost, to damage Susanoos skeleton form. When Madara activated Susanoos skeleton form while they were flying, it struck them all down. Without Oonoki help, whether when it came to the Jinton, or his power boost for A or Gaara in order to lighten his sand, their limit would have been at breaking Susanoos ribcage. Seriously, what can the Sannin do in their base against Susanoo? their offense is a pity and the summons are no worthy to talk about, the Blaze Release would definitely fodderize them. The complete Susanoo with its 4 stages, Amaterasu orb and shield it is covered in, would just slaughter them. Not to mention that Sasuke can use his Amaterasu and Genjutsus from inside. Sure, now Sasuke is testing his new powers and gets used of him, but if he'll go on rampage while keeping his mind calm and being analytically, I don't see the Sannin win here, honestly.
As if Jiraiya would reach his Senninmode against Sasuke when he already had major difficulties in doing it against Chikushodo. Due to the Blaze Release, he wouldn't have any summons to back him actually up.
If you can tell me realistic scenarios where the Sannin can counter Amaterasu and Blaze Release Magatama projectiles along with Susanoos other techniques, and being able to get through Susanoos complete form, we can discuss equally.
Due to Sasukes ability to cover Susanoo with Amaterasu, one touch of Tsunade would automatically be her death, without her being able to harm Susanoo. What is to say about Orochimarus offense? Or about Jiaiyas? The only ability worthy to be mentioned is Jiraiyas swamp and yet Sasuke can use his hawk in order to fly while using Susanoo and eventually even protect his hawk with it. Itachi also demonstrated Susanoo being able to grand comrades protection.
All of you say, all 3 Sannin would be a slaughter, together they would rape Sasuke, 3 vs. 1 is too much for him.
But how is this actually going to be a safety win for them?
Be realistic. The Kage had major difficulties in overcoming Susanoos incomplete stage. It took Tsunade and A with Oonokis power boost, in order to fully destroy the ribcage of Madaras Susanoo. It took A with Oonokis power boost, to damage Susanoos skeleton form. When Madara activated Susanoos skeleton form while they were flying, it struck them all down. Without Oonoki help, whether when it came to the Jinton, or his power boost for A or Gaara in order to lighten his sand, their limit would have been at breaking Susanoos ribcage. Seriously, what can the Sannin do in their base against Susanoo? their offense is a pity and the summons are no worthy to talk about, the Blaze Release would definitely fodderize them. The complete Susanoo with its 4 stages, Amaterasu orb and shield it is covered in, would just slaughter them. Not to mention that Sasuke can use his Amaterasu and Genjutsus from inside. Sure, now Sasuke is testing his new powers and gets used of him, but if he'll go on rampage while keeping his mind calm and being analytically, I don't see the Sannin win here, honestly.
As if Jiraiya would reach his Senninmode against Sasuke when he already had major difficulties in doing it against Chikushodo. Due to the Blaze Release, he wouldn't have any summons to back him actually up.
If you can tell me realistic scenarios where the Sannin can counter Amaterasu and Blaze Release Magatama projectiles along with Susanoos other techniques, and being able to get through Susanoos complete form, we can discuss equally.
Due to Sasukes ability to cover Susanoo with Amaterasu, one touch of Tsunade would automatically be her death, without her being able to harm Susanoo. What is to say about Orochimarus offense? Or about Jiaiyas? The only ability worthy to be mentioned is Jiraiyas swamp and yet Sasuke can use his hawk in order to fly while using Susanoo and eventually even protect his hawk with it. Itachi also demonstrated Susanoo being able to grand comrades protection.
All of you say, all 3 Sannin would be a slaughter, together they would rape Sasuke, 3 vs. 1 is too much for him.
But how is this actually going to be a safety win for them?
^ Thank you, Strict. This is exactly my point. They cannot outdo Blaze release alone. And Sasuke has several highly deadly variants of it. The Sanins lose this. It's a win for Sasuke because they lack any offense for his sussano and defense for Blaze release.
^ Thank you, Strict. This is exactly my point. They cannot outdo Blaze release alone. And Sasuke has several highly deadly variants of it. The Sanins lose this. It's a win for Sasuke because they lack any offense for his sussano and defense for Blaze release.
Sound is effective. Airborne toxins are effective. Tsunade's punches are effective. Oro's ninjutsu and willingness to sacrifice summons for distractions are effective. Jiraiya's Giant Rasengan and other ninjutsu are effective. Oro's snake-form, and Shima's tongue can fling Susano'o around like a rag doll with the slightest opening. Hell, Katsuyu's acid could even be effective.
Note that I said 'effective' not "ALL OF THESE STOMP SUSANO'O LOLZ". These are all techniques PROVEN to damage Susano'o, or to target Sasuke without it being able to stop them, or inconvenience it heavily.
SAYING that the only technique, between all three of the Sannin, that could even REMOTELY constitute a worry for Sasuke is the Yomi Numa doesn't constitute an adequate counter. HOW does he avoid Toad Song? Is there no long range Ninjutsu between Jiraiya and Oro which constitutes ANY threat? Is a Giant Rasengan incapable of even SCRATCHING Susano'o? Has Orochimaru made him immune to EVERY POSSIBLE TOXIN?
Orochimaru HIMSELF certainly doesn't think so:
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Jiraiya's Goemon (Flaming Toad Oil Sea), much like the Yomi Numa by your own admission, will be difficult for him if he's not aloft on a Hawk Summon.
Do you honestly believe the Sannin, working together, could NOT take down a single Hawk?
SAYING that the only technique, between all three of the Sannin, that could even REMOTELY constitute a worry for Sasuke is the Yomi Numa doesn't constitute an adequate counter. HOW does he avoid Toad Song? Is there no long range Ninjutsu between Jiraiya and Oro which constitutes ANY threat? Is a Giant Rasengan incapable of even SCRATCHING Susano'o? Has Orochimaru made him immune to EVERY POSSIBLE TOXIN?
Orochimaru HIMSELF certainly doesn't think so:
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Jiraiya's Goemon (Flaming Toad Oil Sea), much like the Yomi Numa by your own admission, will be difficult for him if he's not aloft on a Hawk Summon.
Do you honestly believe the Sannin, working together, could NOT take down a single Hawk?
Do you read the manga actually? Just a random question.
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Here, Narutos biggest Rasengan is not even scratching Susanoos ribcage and yet you are going to say that this pitiful technique is going to be a danger for Sasuke.
Jiraiyas oil is a good technique indeed, but yet it won't get pass Susanoo. A good portion of Meis lava (which is supposed to be much hotter then fire) managed to melt the ribcage a bit, so what's to say about the complete Susanoo in its last stage.
Do I have to remember you that it takes a long time until Jiraiya summons Fukasaku and Shima and reaches his senninmode? He had major difficulties in doing this against Chikushodo and only managed it because his summons backed him up, summones that will get fodderized by Blaze Release Magatama projectiles. Also the frog song needs preparation and can only be used ater Jiraiya got into his Senninmode, while Sasuke can cast a Genjutsu instantly.
They can try to kill the hawk, but Sasuke on the other hand can use his even high stages of Susanoo while being on his hawk, since Susanoo doesn't weight much since being merely chakra and Susanoo already proved to be able to protect comrades.
Sorry, but with this pitiful arguments you are not going to make the Sannin win. It's like saying, Sasuke will one shot all three Sannin with Blaze Release Magatama projectiles. Though this idea would even be more realistic.
@Piratefish For the toad song, he'll have to go into the SM first, which means he won't be able to use his hands to form any hand seal based techniques. And it takes a long while for him to do so. The fact that you're ignoring this repeatedly is quite strange. Frog Song is a sound based genjutsu, Kabuto accomplished what he did by sealing their light and hearing senses:
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. That's why he was also to subdue Sussano. A sound based jutsu alone won't harm the eye, how is it an effective technique?
Was Sasuke in Sussano? Also, why would Orochimaru even come out in his original form and a numbing poison is not fatal as it's a numbing poison. I thought we are talking about fatal attacks here? For your last comment, re-read Strict's post. And last but not least, either come up with arguments that counter mine and strict, as this is my last reply to you on the matter.
Obviously I never have, as I think Senjutsu techniques are on a different level to ones that aren't, since they include nature chakra and all. I apologize for my grievous error and will atone by reading through the series three times backwards.
Here, Narutos biggest Rasengan is not even scratching Susanoos ribcage and yet you are going to say that this pitiful technique is going to be a danger for Sasuke.
Jiraiyas oil is a good technique indeed, but yet it won't get pass Susanoo. A good portion of Meis lava (which is supposed to be much hotter then fire) managed to melt the ribcage a bit, so what's to say about the complete Susanoo in its last stage.
Mei targeted Susano'o directly, while the Goemon targets EVERYTHING. Boiling oil is a VERY dangerous thing if you are directly hit (it can reach around 300C) and if Sasuke is submerged for even an instant he'll die in agony if he doesn't recieve help. The battlefield has a great deal to say as to the effectiveness of this tech, as a bowl type arena and Sasuke being in the center of it (which he may not realize is a bad idea) would be ideal.
Even if Jiraiya can't use Goemon, the Yomi Numa can be used to great effect even without Sage Mode or a terrain advantage.
Do I have to remember you that it takes a long time until Jiraiya summons Fukasaku and Shima and reaches his senninmode? He had major difficulties in doing this against Chikushodo and only managed it because his summons backed him up, summones that will get fodderized by Blaze Release Magatama projectiles. Also the frog song needs preparation and can only be used ater Jiraiya got into his Senninmode, while Sasuke can cast a Genjutsu instantly.
Senninmode takes a while, but summoning the Elder Toads is an entirely different thing. If Toad Song is landed the fight ends, and Jiraiya isn't directly involved in the process at all. He is protected by Sage Mode from the effects, true, but he'll gladly accept temporary paralysis at the cost of victory, and the Fukasaku and Shima might be able to direct it well enough that it only targets Sasuke, and in any case Oro and Tsunade are probably uneffected. Even if they are the toads can slit Sasukes throat themselves. If the Sannin can protect the two of them for as long as it takes them to find a harmony, the battle is won.
They can try to kill the hawk, but Sasuke on the other hand can use his even high stages of Susanoo while being on his hawk, since Susanoo doesn't weight much since being merely chakra and Susanoo already proved to be able to protect comrades.
Sorry, but with this pitiful arguments you are not going to make the Sannin win. It's like saying, Sasuke will one shot all three Sannin with Blaze Release Magatama projectiles. Though this idea would even be more realistic.
I am refuting your blatantly wrong statements that Sasuke is completely impervious to ANYTHING the Sannin can do.
EDIT: It appears I was mistaken, Goemon is apparently not at actual boiling oil temperatures but at THOUSANDS OF DEGREES. Which means it VAPORIZES people in stead of boiling them and is, in fact, capable of melting Susano'o on its own. Since it's AT LEAST TWICE AS HOT AS LAVA.
Lava has a temperature of at most 1200 C, and since Goemon has been stated in the Databook to have the immense temperatures of AT LEAST TWICE THAT, Susano'o is reduced to a puddle in seconds.
@Piratefish For the toad song, he'll have to go into the SM first, which means he won't be able to use his hands to form any hand seal based techniques. And it takes a long while for him to do so. The fact that you're ignoring this repeatedly is quite strange. Frog Song is a sound based genjutsu, Kabuto accomplished what he did by sealing their light and hearing senses:
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. That's why he was also to subdue Sussano. A sound based jutsu alone won't harm the eye, how is it an effective technique?
Was Sasuke in Sussano? Also, why would Orochimaru even come out in his original form and a numbing poison is not fatal as it's a numbing poison. I thought we are talking about fatal attacks here? For your last comment, re-read Strict's post. And last but not least, either come up with arguments that counter mine and strict, as this is my last reply to you on the matter.
Did I ever state that I was talking about fatal attacks?
Did I SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ATTACKS CAPABLE OF HARMING THE SUSANO'O, OR SASUKE THROUGH IT?
How does it not harming the eyes mean that the Toad Song is ineffective? Did it not take down a Rinnegan user or three? Full-body paralysis seems like a match-ender to me.
Did I ever state that I was talking about fatal attacks?
Did I SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ATTACKS CAPABLE OF HARMING THE SUSANO'O, OR SASUKE THROUGH IT?
How does it not harming the eyes mean that the Toad Song is ineffective? Did it not take down a Rinnegan user or three? Full-body paralysis seems like a match-ender to me.
Man, do you bother to read all of the post, or just pick out lines? Look at my post again. Is Sasuke inside Sussano in that image? No he isn't. If his last layer of sussao - and he was also at his last leg in terms of chakra and stamina - was able to block out most of Mei's acid mist, what makes you think toxins will get to him? Wasn't that acid mist a part of the air as well, as it mingled with it? Since Sussano is a probably factor in Sasuk taking on all three, why would you not put it into equation?
Rinnegan and EMS are not even remotely related in terms of eye usage. Rinnegan gives the paths, whereas EMS or all sharingen technique specifically call for the eyes focus on the target. Right MS/EMS for Tsukiyomi and Left for Amatersu. Both of them combine to form Sussano. Kabuto used a combination of light and sound to make it effective. He used a jutsu that targeted the eyes as well. So it clearly means that to find a way around sharingen, one has to block out the eye indefinitely to make it useless. And Kabuto specially was keen on talking about light disturbing their vision.
Frog song will only work on Sasuke's ears. What different it make then as Sharingen solely depends on the vision and Kabuto specifically targeted that as well? This will be an effective technique against an EMS user.
I am refuting your blatantly wrong statements that Sasuke is completely impervious to ANYTHING the Sannin can do.
EDIT: It appears I was mistaken, Goemon is apparently not at actual boiling oil temperatures but at THOUSANDS OF DEGREES. Which means it VAPORIZES people in stead of boiling them and is, in fact, capable of melting Susano'o on its own. Since it's AT LEAST TWICE AS HOT AS LAVA.
Lava has a temperature of at most 1200 C, and since Goemon has been stated in the Databook to have the immense temperatures of AT LEAST TWICE THAT, Susano'o is reduced to a puddle in seconds.
And Amatersu according to the databook and the manga has the temperature of the surface of the sun? And you think Tsunade and Jiriya somehow will survive it?
How is sussano reduced to puddle, when the last layer of such a powerful acid mist couldn't break through completely when Sasuke was so tired? It's just an assumption, when Sussano can sustain the usage of enton on it? It's chakra. It's not a physical object that'll be reduced to puddle.
Man, do you bother to read all of the post, or just pick out lines? Look at my post again. Is Sasuke inside Sussano in that image? No he isn't. If his last layer of sussao - and he was also at his last leg in terms of chakra and stamina - was able to block out most of Mei's acid mist, what makes you think toxins will get to him? Wasn't that acid mist a part of the air as well, as it mingled with it? Since Sussano is a probably factor in Sasuk taking on all three, why would you not put it into equation?
Rinnegan and EMS are not even remotely related in terms of eye usage. Rinnegan gives the paths, whereas EMS or all sharingen technique specifically call for the eyes focus on the target. Right MS/EMS for Tsukiyomi and Left for Amatersu. Both of them combine to form Sussano. Kabuto used a combination of light and sound to make it effective. He used a jutsu that targeted the eyes as well. So it clearly means that to find a way around sharingen, one has to block out the eye indefinitely to make it useless. And Kabuto specially was keen on talking about light disturbing their vision.
Frog song will only work on Sasuke's ears. What different it make then as Sharingen solely depends on the vision and Kabuto specifically targeted that as well? This will be an effective technique against an EMS user.
And Amatersu according to the databook and the manga has the temperature of the surface of the sun? And you think Tsunade and Jiriya somehow will survive it?
How is sussano reduced to puddle, when the last layer of such a powerful acid mist couldn't break through completely when Sasuke was so tired? It's just an assumption, when Sussano can sustain the usage of enton on it? It's chakra. It's not a physical object that'll be reduced to puddle.
1. Well my basic knowledge of physical science says no a gas and a liquid, I.e. air and mist are very different things. Mist is literally little droplets of liquid.
2. Logic doesn't follow.
3. It is impossible to stand with a mile radius of piece of the sun's core the size of the head of a pin. So considering how close characters have been to Amaterasu and larger quantities of Amaterasu we can obviously see the hyperbole. Examples: Jiraiya sealing the Amaterasu flames, Team Yamato standing near the land filled with Amaterasu flames, Sasuke vs Itachi, Sasuke vs raikage so on and so forth. The databook says to Kamui there is not defense, yet it also says that yata mirror can neutralize all attacks. Something must be wrong within the databook. You can't merit statements like that which are obviously meant to be hyperbolic.
4. Explain Susanoo melting, because it behaves like a physical object.
Man, do you bother to read all of the post, or just pick out lines? Look at my post again. Is Sasuke inside Sussano in that image? No he isn't. If his last layer of sussao - and he was also at his last leg in terms of chakra and stamina - was able to block out most of Mei's acid mist, what makes you think toxins will get to him? Wasn't that acid mist a part of the air as well, as it mingled with it? Since Sussano is a probably factor in Sasuk taking on all three, why would you not put it into equation?
As Tazzilla (thanks Tazzilla!) pointed out, mist is a liquid. Airborne toxins may not be, and not every liquid behaves EXACTLY the same way. It would be mighty strange if Susano'o was able to protect Sasuke from the very air he breathes, as it's not a gas mask.
Rinnegan and EMS are not even remotely related in terms of eye usage. Rinnegan gives the paths, whereas EMS or all sharingen technique specifically call for the eyes focus on the target. Right MS/EMS for Tsukiyomi and Left for Amatersu. Both of them combine to form Sussano. Kabuto used a combination of light and sound to make it effective. He used a jutsu that targeted the eyes as well. So it clearly means that to find a way around sharingen, one has to block out the eye indefinitely to make it useless. And Kabuto specially was keen on talking about light disturbing their vision.
He might, MIGHT, be able to maintain EMS tech usage. Problem is, he is inarguably physically paralyzed, and is therefore easy pickings EVEN IF HE CAN MAINTAIN SUSANO'O. Unless he's paralyzed in such a way that all three of the Sannin remain in his field of vision for the remainder of the battle.
Frog song will only work on Sasuke's ears. What different it make then as Sharingen solely depends on the vision and Kabuto specifically targeted that as well? This will be an effective technique against an EMS user.
And Amatersu according to the databook and the manga has the temperature of the surface of the sun? And you think Tsunade and Jiriya somehow will survive it?
How is sussano reduced to puddle, when the last layer of such a powerful acid mist couldn't break through completely when Sasuke was so tired? It's just an assumption, when Sussano can sustain the usage of enton on it? It's chakra. It's not a physical object that'll be reduced to puddle.
Mei's Acid Mist was breaking steadily through Susano'o, and the Goemon is many times hotter than lava. Why wouldn't it be able to melt through, and fast at that?
I don't think Sasuke ever used Enton directly on Susano'o's main structure for an extended period. Do you have manga evidence of that?
As Tazzilla (thanks Tazzilla!) pointed out, mist is a liquid. Airborne toxins may not be, and not every liquid behaves EXACTLY the same way. It would be mighty strange if Susano'o was able to protect Sasuke from the very air he breathes, as it's not a gas mask.
Orochimaru's toxins were in form of vapours, which itself is a liquid form. And let's not bring extreme science into this, okay? Let's stay within Naruto. Orochimaru obviously made Sasuke's body completely immune to all poisons save for his own, as he was going to take it over. He obviously left that poison out as a trump card just to play it safe.
Since you don't have anything to prove this and as Sussano blocked out most of acid mist - it could have blocked more had Sasuke not been that beat up due to extreme stress - it would've blocked it out completely even in that ribcage form. So, we can safly assume that as sussano is Chakra, it does act as an indefinite barrier.
He might, MIGHT, be able to maintain EMS tech usage. Problem is, he is inarguably physically paralyzed, and is therefore easy pickings EVEN IF HE CAN MAINTAIN SUSANO'O. Unless he's paralyzed in such a way that all three of the Sannin remain in his field of vision for the remainder of the battle.
How is he paralyzed when Kabuto had to block out the eyesight as well to completely overwhelm EMS? This is a non-debatable issue, as EMS depends completely on the eye. In order to bring Sasuke out of sussano, they will have to attack the eyes, and they have nothing to accomplish that.
My argument still stands. The frog song is useless against an EMS user, as it attacks via sound.
That was enton Kagatsuchi, meant as a defense not an offense attack that's why it was spreading very slowly. He still lost his arm, didn't he? Now imagine Amatersu in its place on the whole body. Yeah, I can imagine the outcome.
Mei's Acid Mist was breaking steadily through Susano'o, and the Goemon is many times hotter than lava. Why wouldn't it be able to melt through, and fast at that?
I don't think Sasuke ever used Enton directly on Susano'o's main structure for an extended period. Do you have manga evidence of that?
Read those chapters again as to why she was able to accomplish that. And it's not melting it, it was eating through it. Is there any evidence to suggest that he can't? He used it fully around his sussano and then manipulated it till the time Gaara didn't stop the fight. That is long enough to melt sussano considering this 'melting' logic. Sasuke never said, 'damn, I shouldn't use that again on my sussano ever. Or the damn thing will melt'. Which means Sussano is able to sustain higher temperatures for an extended period of time. And like I said, it isn't a physical object but a manifestation of chakra. Any technique could break through it or damage it, but it sure as hell won't melt, as it's not a physical object.
Also, didn't strict point out that Sasuke can ride a hawk while in sussano, and the hawk will also be protected, as we have seen that Sussano can take in additional individuals? By the way, is Goemon a fast technique like Amatersu, Magatma, kirin, Chidori varients, arrows? Do you think Sasuke will just sit back and let him use it?
Orochimaru's toxins were in form of vapours, which itself is a liquid form. And let's not bring extreme science into this, okay? Let's stay within Naruto. Orochimaru obviously made Sasuke's body completely immune to all poisons save for his own, as he was going to take it over. He obviously left that poison out as a trump card just to play it safe.
Orochimaru made Sasuke immune to every possible poison except his own? That's not biologically possible OR medically feasible with the knowledge shown by ANYONE in the Narutoverse (it might not ever be achieved even in the real world). Orochimaru has NO chance to make Sasuke as toxic-proof as you suggest without EXTENSIVE bodily reconstruction (take a look at Oro HIMSELF), which has obviously not been shown.
I'll grant that Oro has granted Sasuke a high resistance to many common toxins, but Oro's poison is confirmed effective, and Myobokuzan tongue-secretion is NOT something Oro EVER had access to. He's not immune.
Since you don't have anything to prove this and as Sussano blocked out most of acid mist - it could have blocked more had Sasuke not been that beat up due to extreme stress - it would've blocked it out completely even in that ribcage form. So, we can safly assume that as sussano is Chakra, it does act as an indefinite barrier.
So, your hypothesis is that Susano'o is a completely impenetrable barrier for microscopic particles.
Logically, that means air doesn't penetrate. I give Sasuke five minutes at most before suffocating. There's no manga evidence he won't and if he removes Susano'o he'll be vastly impaired or even defeated by the toxins.
How is he paralyzed when Kabuto had to block out the eyesight as well to completely overwhelm EMS? This is a non-debatable issue, as EMS depends completely on the eye. In order to bring Sasuke out of sussano, they will have to attack the eyes, and they have nothing to accomplish that.
You are quite simply wrong. EMS grants resistance only to ocular genjutsu, as well as making sure even powerful genjutsu which still allow the eyes to function zare a bad idea.
That's not the case with the Toad Song.
Here's Sasuke and Itachi still being able to move while under Kabuto's genjutsu:
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They are cringing from the effects, it's obvious they still have mobility.
Kabuto even states that "It's obvious I'm the only one who can freely move."
That's not the case with the Toad Song:
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The Paths are only able to talk within the dimensional pocket (or whatever it is, it reminds me a bit of Tsukuyomi), even though their controlling mind is fully clear, which won't be the case with Sasuke.
The ONLY action the Paths were capable of:
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were a soft groan, which was more than likely an involuntary reaction to getting that stone sword shoved through the lungs.
Toad Song trumps Kabuto's genjutsu with ease. It makes sense, as it requires both two sages working together AND prep time to cast.
That was enton Kagatsuchi, meant as a defense not an offense attack that's why it was spreading very slowly. He still lost his arm, didn't he? Now imagine Amatersu in its place on the whole body. Yeah, I can imagine the outcome.
Read those chapters again as to why she was able to accomplish that. And it's not melting it, it was eating through it. Is there any evidence to suggest that he can't? He used it fully around his sussano and then manipulated it till the time Gaara didn't stop the fight. That is long enough to melt sussano considering this 'melting' logic. Sasuke never said, 'damn, I shouldn't use that again on my sussano ever. Or the damn thing will melt'. Which means Sussano is able to sustain higher temperatures for an extended period of time. And like I said, it isn't a physical object but a manifestation of chakra. Any technique could break through it or damage it, but it sure as hell won't melt, as it's not a physical object.
So, because the Acid Mist was corroding it and not melting it, Susano'o is UNMELTABLE?
That's not logical or even reasonable.
It's hard to say if Susano'o is ever in DIRECT contact with Amaterasu, and NO Susano'o has ever been covered in the flames for a prolonged periods. Do you disagree that Amaterasu can even HARM Susano'o?
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Amaterasu isn't even remotely connected to the manifested Susano'o. Could there be a reason for that? Also, the only confirmed targets ever hit by Enton are Zetsu Clones [AT CLOSE RANGE] and A, who did it to himself. It's perfectly possible the Sannin can dodge Enton at least.
Sasuke certainly can't DIRECTLY target the outside of Susano'o with Amaterasu unless it's in ribcage form (bad idea). Having to use Enton to cover the construct means that Tsunade landing a solid punch is at least POSSIBLE.
Also, didn't strict point out that Sasuke can ride a hawk while in sussano, and the hawk will also be protected, as we have seen that Sussano can take in additional individuals? By the way, is Goemon a fast technique like Amatersu, Magatma, kirin, Chidori varients, arrows? Do you think Sasuke will just sit back and let him use it?
How can he cover a hawk large enough for him to stand on if he can't even cover his own bottom half?
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You're not seriously stating that Sasuke covers THIS with Susano'o?
Taking to the skies opens up the field and increases his mobility by a large amount, but it also opens up a whole new range of problems. The hawk is not invulnerable. As such, fall damage and crashlanding positions are a valid concern. Whether the Sannin can prepare a warm welcome once he reaches the ground is also more than likely:
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Jiraiya, as seen here, is capable of crossing a fair amount of distance AND forming a Senjutsu: Giant Rasengan before his sandal, which fell off in the previous panel, even hits the ground. That's not a soft landing, and the Rasengan actually blocks Jiraiya ENTIRELY from Sasuke's field of vision. Which is not a bad tactic at all. Sasuke may even attempt Amaterasu on the Rasengan (he has a history of tactically unsound decisions when faced with the spinning orb), which might actually end the match right there. Amaterasengan seems like a powerful technique to me.
