ya i agree with u jiraya was careless at that time when he fought pein if he knows the truth then he can easily defeat pein ( as i see at that time one the pein attaked his right hand so no hand sign can be made).if he can with stand pein. he can simply beat itachiye but thing is jiraiya had no intention of fighting pein really he was just trying to gather information not trying to kill pein so we basicly still dont kno his true strength and i still think no matter what jiraiya can take itachi alone
Yes, i agree with what he says...ya i agree with u jiraya was careless at that time when he fought pein if he knows the truth then he can easily defeat pein ( as i see at that time one the pein attaked his right hand so no hand sign can be made).if he can with stand pein. he can simply beat itachi
and coming to oorochimaru at that time when itachi beat him he was not in a good state as he just came out from sasuke body if he was a his full power the batlle will last for some time.
and tsunade when she fought kabuto she has fear of blood if she has has not in that condition then situation is different
so the three are very good if they fought together at their full potential nobody can with stand
Though I do think that itachi was lying a bit about that, I think you overestimate itachi. The only trouble that itachi could give is amaterasu, and that can be avoided, by putting something in the way then hiding or using a substitution which I am sure jiryah can do(and he has that fire sealing thing as well), tsukyomi, if he went into sage mode with chakra constantly disrupting his he is pretty much immune. Susanoo, he is immune to genjutsu and could probably be taken back either by space/time(summoning) or just being good against it, and even if he isn't in sage mode he is insanely fast and can pretty much dodge anything. his genjutsu since it is sound could probably go right through itachi's barrier.I think you will find that itachi was lying about jiraiya and how he couldnt defeat him, itachis plans are different to akatsukis, they couldve taken naruto EASILY in that episode 83-85 section, itachi didnt want to take naruto.
Also Jiraiya has fought orochimaru before, and orochimaru has been able to beat him or be even with him since theyre fighting.
Itachi killed orochimaru in around 0.4 seconds.
There is no contest itachi wouldve won
Oro is easily the strongest sannin, matched possibly by Jiraiya, theyre very close, tsunade is skilled etc but her attacks require short distances, she can direct earthquakes but theyre waaaay too slow, itachi is possible the fastest ninja ever known, in terms of reflexes and movements, tsunade would be no problem for him,
Jiraiya he may have most trouble with given what we saw when he fought pein.
What i want to know is if ma and pas genjutsu is stronger than itachis tsykunomi??
lol. good analysis.Though I do think that itachi was lying a bit about that, I think you overestimate itachi. The only trouble that itachi could give is amaterasu, and that can be avoided, by putting something in the way then hiding or using a substitution which I am sure jiryah can do(and he has that fire sealing thing as well), tsukyomi, if he went into sage mode with chakra constantly disrupting his he is pretty much immune. Susanoo, he is immune to genjutsu and could probably be taken back either by space/time(summoning) or just being good against it, and even if he isn't in sage mode he is insanely fast and can pretty much dodge anything. his genjutsu since it is sound could probably go right through itachi's barrier.
and don't forget itachi run's out of chakra in like the first 10 second's, and jiriyah would still have like max chakra, then it would be no contest
(also I think you overestimate orochimaru(while underestimating jiryah), oro is like weak compared to jiryah in his max mode. Orochimaru is just some immortal who can't die, but his ability pales when compared to jiryah's awesomeness. he is faster(make's orochimaru look like he isn't moving), physically stronger(he can like pick up a mountain), his jutsu level's are incredibly superior(toad deep fryer is a super powerful technique, and ultimate rasengan probably has the power of an atomic bomb(not quite but still) being like 100-500 time's the size of a rasengan capable of making a 10 meter crater.
itachi isn't the fastest ever known, he is pretty much blind, and can't see anything you throw at him(sasuke easily landed a huge shard of metal in him with just a little shuriken trick), so his reflex's ain't that good, and he his speed pale's compared to jiryah who can go like 100-400 meter's a second.
It's an ok analysis, but sadly, you are heavily underestimating Itachi. Admittedly, he does have some issues that are handicaps, but he is still extremely capable of taking on Hokage level shinobi.lol. good analysis.
I think he could do it, I mean he's really smart, and I mean REALLY smart, he's not reckless, he would isolate them and wipe them out one by one, he would do it, but most likely die in the end.three hokage level???
May be so, but you have to admit that itachi would run out of chakra LONG before he could do anything to them. he pulls out susanoo or amaterasu a few time's and just like that he run's out of chakra.It's an ok analysis, but sadly, you are heavily underestimating Itachi. Admittedly, he does have some issues that are handicaps, but he is still extremely capable of taking on Hokage level shinobi.
That's why he traps Jiraiya in a genjutsu immediately, creates clones as fodder for the other two, kills Jiraiya, then epically rapes the other two.May be so, but you have to admit that itachi would run out of chakra LONG before he could do anything to them. he pulls out susanoo or amaterasu a few time's and just like that he run's out of chakra.
that is if they don't split up and kill him while he is staring at them. and that frog genjutsu is unavoidable as it travel's by sound. and jiriyah is just too fast.
You people are seriously underestimating Itachi, just because you are biased to Jiraiya because Jiraiya rocks.Jiraiya could kill itachi easily !! >> oro will lose and we dont know tsudane real strength .. !! But we r gonna know about tsunade now !! But if tri teams up and faces itachi they would kill him in an instant !!
First, Jiraiya is not 'immune to genjutsu'didn't he say that jiriyah was immune to genjutsu.
and shadow clone's aren't going to do much about the other 2 as they can be defeated easily, also shadow clone's require an insane amount of chakra that itachi doesn't have, itachi would immediately go down to 1/3 his chakra level if he created 2 shadow clone's.
you are 1) overestimating itachi although he is pretty powerful, 2) underestimating the 3
There is NO way that itachi can defeat 3 people who are about at his ability level. the sannin would just create a super powerful combo and attack before he could do anything.
Itachi wasn't 'scared' of him, that's stupid, he just left because the situation wasn't in his favor, aka: an open area.shodaime, did you really create this thread?
itachi was scared of jiraiya WITH the help of kisame and they don't even know he has hermit too. if you add orochimaru and tsunade. itachi dies within the first minute. there is no ninja that has been in this series that could defeat all 3 sannin(in their prime).