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nagato Stomps Totsuka Blitz
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So what. If Itachi dosent have the arsenal, then it means he wont win. How can something be easy to counter if you don't have the needed requirement to do so. Since Im supposedly using "fanlogic." tell me how Itachi can manage to defeat Nagato.
Just because he was called a genius doesn't automatically make him able to beat people far above his level.
Neji, Minato,Gaara, etc were all called genius, it dsoent mean they could all solo nagato.

Kishi spoke through itachi's mouth that every jutsu has its weakness. Basically all Edo nagato rinnegan tech were countered in less than a minute
Kishi also showed us enough that itachi never lost a real fight. Base on what kishi trying to say, they are pretty much equal, rinnegan probably stronger in power but nagato and itachi are same level(so your stomp is not applicable)
 
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Kishi spoke through itachi's mouth that every jutsu has its weakness. Basically all Edo nagato rinnegan tech were countered in less than a minute
Kishi also showed us enough that itachi never lost a real fight. Base on what kishi trying to say, they are pretty much equal, rinnegan probably stronger in power but nagato and itachi are same level



- had nardo and Bee help

- had nardo and bee help
- had nardo and bee help.

had nardo and bee help.
 

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Re: Alive Nagato & pain stomps Itachi low diff

low difficulty? never go full retard..
 

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According to your sig, you are worse than trash.

you have said that and it also seems that way.

Ot: Nagato solos.....
 

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Deva Path and Animal Path is enough to beat Itachi.
 

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The only people who can defeat nagato are naruto, madara, and juubito
 

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Deva Path alone beats him, people put Edo Itachi and Alive Itachi in the same category, by doing that they overrate him alot
 

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Kishi spoke through itachi's mouth that every jutsu has its weakness. Basically all Edo nagato rinnegan tech were countered in less than a minute
Kishi also showed us enough that itachi never lost a real fight. Base on what kishi trying to say, they are pretty much equal, rinnegan probably stronger in power but nagato and itachi are same level

Yes, every jutsu has a weakness, Im not denying that. But in order to counter it, you do need the requirements to counter said jutsu. Just because chibaku tensei has an weakness, does that mean tenten can stop it? no because she lacks the proper techs to do so. Itachi was able to face Edo Nagato because Bee and Naruto were there to help. ALONE, Edo Itachi wouldnt be able to stop Edo Nagato. How would itachi have stopped chibaku without bee and naruto helping.
Nagato has never lost a battle either, he only died because he gave his life to revive those he killed. Yea, Nagato is immobile, but itachi suffers from sickness, Nagato can fight for long times and have large scale battles, Itachi is used to quick fights or risk overexertion, against nagato, it wont be quick, and he will suffer from sickness.
 

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- had nardo and Bee help

- had nardo and bee help
- had nardo and bee help.

had nardo and bee help.

If madara or hashirama help instead, I doubt it could end much sooner.
And certainly that would not mean nagato>hashirama when he ask two jin for a hand instead of eating pop corn
 

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If madara or hashirama help instead, I doubt it could end much sooner.
And certainly that would not mean nagato>hashirama when he ask two jin for a hand instead of eating pop corn

But hashi is not itachi


nagato > itachi
 

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Good match, but Nagato takes it.

Especially in your scenario with it being Nagato and the Pains.
 

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Healthy Nagato stomps Itachi neg-diff.

But considering that he was so nerfed when they were alive, I actually consider these two characters to be equal in a sense, it just looked like Kishimoto was trying to portray that. Some of your points are biased and flawed though.

-He had to shinra tensei amaterasu and it did hurt him. But then again Kabuto was controlling him at the time, so Nagato can definitely handle it.

-Neither Yata nor Totsuka can be absorbed, considering that they are spiritual entities not made of chakra. Only susanno can be absorbed, but we also know that these weapons don't even have to be attached to susanno to be used, hence why Orochimaru desired them for himself. Kabuto also knew this, that's why he didn't bother having Nagato absorb Totsuka when it pierced him. It would do nothing.

-No. Nagato is still susceptible to Izanami (he thought he was a god), Kotoamatsukami, and Tsukiyomi, all of which are more potent than frog song. The claim that rinnegan is immuned to any genjutsu from sharingan users is completely baseless. In fact, having a higher dojoutsu does not make you immuned to genjutsu from lower dojutsu, this was even proven by Zetsu when he stated that Sasuke (3-tomoe) would have a slim chance at genjutsuing Itachi (Mangekyo sharingan). Those 3 genjutsu are harming Nagato if Itachi manages to pull them off.

-It doesn't matter if the animal summons' turn invisible, considering that Itachi has the sharingan and can see chakra. Nagato is crippled which is a huge disadvantage, the animal summons' are not very fast and Itachi even blinded all of them using a simple shuriken jutsu.

-Shukaku Nara also stated that Itachi is the only shinobi capable of manipulating people w/ genjutsu out of a sensor's range, which renders the fact that Nagato is a sensor useless.

-Apparently he cannot just bansho tenin Itachi's eyes out, considering that Kabuto didn't have Nagato do this back when they were Edos.

-Shinra tensei and the rest of Nagato's attacks also have a time limit which is 5 minutes. If he uses a large scale attack he's vulnerable for that amount of time. Also, Itachi can deflect all of Nagato's attacks with Yata Mirror, so why would you even state this?

-Yata Mirror>Asura rockets and laser beams

Nagato stated that someone who is in the top 20 like Jiraiya would have defeated him if he knew his secret. Why? Because Nagato is in no condition to fight by himself when he was alive. At the Leaf, Konan had to be his bodyguard and that is why the paths do the work for him. He is crippled and can hardly move due to the strain the rinnegan put on his body. If Jiraiya knew his secret, when he held up the paths with that Frog Song genjutsu, he would have gone directly to where the real Nagato was and easily killed him. Also, the paths have shared vision, so if Itachi used Tsukiyomi, Kotoamatsukami, or Izanami on them, wouldn't they all be affected? lol. Itachi even knew Nagato's secret and would defeat Nagato w/ that intel.
 

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Low diff? No, you underestimating Itachi's genius intellect and various skills in battle. I'd say 6POP and Nagato take it mid-high depending on various factors. You're only looking at Itachi's MS jutsus when Itachi's arsenal is more than that, especially combined with his own speed and versatile skills. Like I said, I think Nagato wins but Itachi is too smart to get beaten low diff. It's just an insult to say something like that.
 

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Yes, every jutsu has a weakness, Im not denying that. But in order to counter it, you do need the requirements to counter said jutsu. Just because chibaku tensei has an weakness, does that mean tenten can stop it? no because she lacks the proper techs to do so. Itachi was able to face Edo Nagato because Bee and Naruto were there to help. ALONE, Edo Itachi wouldnt be able to stop Edo Nagato. How would itachi have stopped chibaku without bee and naruto helping.
Nagato has never lost a battle either, he only died because he gave his life to revive those he killed. Yea, Nagato is immobile, but itachi suffers from sickness, Nagato can fight for long times and have large scale battles, Itachi is used to quick fights or risk overexertion, against nagato, it wont be quick, and he will suffer from sickness.

Those word about weaknesses were uttered only through itachi's mouth for the first time in 668 chapters. Kishi actually shown how itachi is different from other character. If kishi gives such intelligence to 10-10. I would have to think twice despite of the fact 10-10 is around konohamaru level.
ut now this is itachi high kage level. If it needs to I know kishi would come up with things like izanagi or something unless kishi telling you in words nagato is beyond itachi
 

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Preta Path Solos.
 

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we know that :dunno:
 

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He can uses his summons to aid him in movement. What can Itachi do to Nagato? If he tries to get close, shinra tensei, if he tries to surprise him, he will see it thanks to his summons/

Nagatos summons won't live the whole fight. Oh well the OP-nonkillable-Dog summon yeah... that is the most illogical thing that was ever introduced in the manga. Guess Itachi could rather easily seal it away with the sword though. Also Nagato has never been shown to be immune to genjutsu, genjutsu was the only reason Jiraiya won against 3 of the 6 paths.

Sidenote: Shinra tensei got a 5 (6?) second cooldown and Itachi got a lot of ranged attacks.

Due to Nagatos bad movement he won't be able to protect his summonings long term. When the summonings are out of the way Itachi would have a rather easy game I believe.
 
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