[Discussion] This should stop an argument between A and 4th

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He's just stating that he has a better space-time technique (since he can warp through dimensions) not that he is faster.

Had he been faster than Minato he never would have been hit with the rasengan
so if that logic was true how was sasuke able to hit the raikage with a chidori???
Minato out smarted him

look again minato he beat madara because he is clever. how many times do i got to say this.
Of course i agree
 

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But that's a real deadly combination for tobi's space-time jutsu, tobi could of slipped all the way down to the ocean floor to avoided the attack but he needed konan to lower her guard and waste her chakra so he can attack and make konan reveal were nagato's eyes were.Yeah minato ftg is faster but whats the point if you dont have the special kunai with or have the mark on the exact location were you need it to be???






You make a good point can't argue about that ....




Ok so if that's the case the reaction from minato when the raikage was about to hit him what happen if minato didn't have ftg???Now to the battle of sasuke vs raikage the reaction of sasuke dodging the raikage elbow thrust does that make sasuke faster???No and if minato reaction was so fast why did he need the ftg to dodge it???
That's why I said Minato vs A + lighting Armor Speed = A wins

-.-" facepalm

maybe I should make it clear

Minato w/o FTG/Marks/Seals vs A + lighting Armor Speed = A wins
 
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That's why I said Minato vs A + lighting Armor Speed = A wins

-.-" facepalm

maybe I should make it clear

Minato w/o FTG/Marks/Seals vs A + lighting Armor Speed = A wins
I was referring to your comment about this



sorry dude, Minato wins the battle of speed FACT
Tobi landed the first hit


Minato first attack did'nt even land


The reason minato won was because he out-smarted tobi


Tobi was able to avoid the same attack raikage pull on minato with ease



the only reason i mentioned that if minato didnt have ftg was to compare how sasuke dodge the raikage attack compared to the way minato did i can careless about A or minato
 

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I was referring to your comment about this



Tobi landed the first hit


Minato first attack did'nt even land


The reason minato won was because he out-smarted tobi


Tobi was able to avoid the same attack raikage pull on minato with ease



the only reason i mentioned that if minato didnt have ftg was to compare how sasuke dodge the raikage attack compared to the way minato did i can careless about A or minato
Tobi "touched" minato. It was probably Minato's way of making an illusion. He already knew that Madara was trying to touch him in order to suck him away to another dimension. Just like sasuke fooled Danzo with his weak gentjutsu. Danzo thought that he still had his last eye opened (arm), but he didn't. Minato let madara touch him in order for Madara to become solid. Minato knew that once Madara touched him, he was solid. It was just a confirmation signal for Minato's attack. Minato needed to be sure that Madara was in a solid state so that his rasengan can land a hit.

Madara became intangable. That's very different when you have to first react to extreme speed and then teleport. In reality madara didn't have time to teleport away from A's full speed attack. Madara just made his body intangible as part of his reaction.

One of the most misconceptions everyone makes it's that people think that sasuke dodged A's attack. Sasuke never dodged A's lighting armor speed attack. He just cover himself with susano'o and amaterasu. That's not dodging.
 
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Tobi "touched" minato. It was probably Minato's way of making an illusion. He already knew that Madara was trying to touch him in order to suck him away to another dimension. Just like sasuke fooled Danzo with his weak gentjutsu. Danzo thought that he still had his last eye opened (arm), but he didn't. Minato let madara touch him in order for Madara to become solid. Minato knew that once Madara touched him, he was solid. It was just a confirmation signal for Minato's attack. Minato needed to be sure that Madara was in a solid state so that his rasengan can land a hit.

Madara became intangable. That's very different when you have to first react to extreme speed and then teleport. In reality madara didn't have time to teleport away from A's full speed attack. Madara just made his body intangible as part of his reaction.

One of the most misconceptions everyone makes it's that people think that sasuke dodged A's attack. Sasuke never dodged A's lighting armor speed attack. He just cover himself with susano'o and amaterasu. That's not dodging.
Sasuke was keeping up with his lvl 1 lightning armor look how sasuke dodge his elbow thrust.



Then watch this punch he misses the sasuke again



Tobi went intangible avoid minato attack and grabbed him.



Kakashi even stated tobi space time ninjustu is more advance then the 4th


Like come on minato has to mark or throw the kunai toward the spot he wants to head to that also takes up time leaving gaps it in his attack but the 4th is extremely smart.I believe minato iq is that of Shikaku x3 and no one from the leaf can take him head on except for Itachi that would most likely result on both of them dieing.If both minato & tobi had to get from a to b and that's 30 miles away minato would be bugged out unless he marked that spot or left his kunai and that's already to much work.
 

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Sasuke was keeping up with his lvl 1 lightning armor look how sasuke dodge his elbow thrust.



Then watch this punch he misses the sasuke again



Tobi went intangible avoid minato attack and grabbed him.



Kakashi even stated tobi space time ninjustu is more advance then the 4th


Like come on minato has to mark or throw the kunai toward the spot he wants to head to that also takes up time leaving gaps it in his attack but the 4th is extremely smart.I believe minato iq is that of Shikaku x3 and no one from the leaf can take him head on except for Itachi that would most likely result on both of them dieing.If both minato & tobi had to get from a to b and that's 30 miles away minato would be bugged out unless he marked that spot or left his kunai and that's already to much work.
lol lvl 1 armor? where do you get this. He can increase the intensity of his armor and speed but there is no such a thing as levels.

This is manga section in case you didn't know. You are just showing me the parts that will be in favor of you in an anime. Anime producers alter kishi's work in order to make it supposedly more entertaining.



There are just exchanging blows in a not extreme speed.



This is where raikage truly uses his Lighting Armor Speed against sasuke. "Shunshin No Jutsu"



Sasuke didn't even have time to turn his head towards raikage. All he could do is react fast and protect himself with amaterasu.

What's your point showing me when madara went intangible against minato? This is why Minato already knew that Madara could make his body intangible which is why he needed to know if madara was intangible or solid when he used his rasengan. In order to do this he needed a confirmation signal. The confirmation signal was letting Madara touch him. Once Minato felt that Madara touched him. He knew Madara was solid so he teleported instantly and attacked with rasengan



Having a jutsu more advanced doesn't exactly mean you are going to be faster. It could be more advanced in other aspects but in speed wise it isn't
 
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This is manga section in case you didn't know. You are just showing me the parts that will be in favor of you in an anime. Anime producers alter kishi's work in order to make it supposedly more entertaining.
they still need kishi's approval, they cant just change whatever they want misleading the audience, the same goes for fillers, it has to have some truth to it or most likely kishi will have them change it up a bit if it isnt compatible with his future work, everything regarding the animation of kishis manga has to fit
 

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yup, this should end the argument, RAIKAGE IS FASTER than minato.
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Btw for the other guy in my thread that was closed, didnt u see the spoiler tag?? do i really need to say "spoiler" above the spoiler tag?
 

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how can you say A is faster, now obviously minato is dead, before it was even said minato was faster, you can't compare a living person to a dead person, you might as well just replace minato with naruto then.
 

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yup, this should end the argument, RAIKAGE IS FASTER than minato.
You must be registered for see images

Btw for the other guy in my thread that was closed, didnt u see the spoiler tag?? do i really need to say "spoiler" above the spoiler tag?
yes, you need to say spoiler, because some people don't wanna see the raw images of the chapter....they have to wait a few more hours so they can understand it.

but seriously bro, you made my day with that pic!


also, to shogi ^, becuase even though A SAID it, his rabid fanbois don't agree with Kishi or A....becuase they don't know what's up. Only A fanbois do.....
 

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lol lvl 1 armor? where do you get this. He can increase the intensity of his armor and speed but there is no such a thing as levels.

This is manga section in case you didn't know. You are just showing me the parts that will be in favor of you in an anime. Anime producers alter kishi's work in order to make it supposedly more entertaining.



There are just exchanging blows in a not extreme speed.



This is where raikage truly uses his Lighting Armor Speed against sasuke. "Shunshin No Jutsu"



Sasuke didn't even have time to turn his head towards raikage. All he could do is react fast and protect himself with amaterasu.

What's your point showing me when madara went intangible against minato? This is why Minato already knew that Madara could make his body intangible which is why he needed to know if madara was intangible or solid when he used his rasengan. In order to do this he needed a confirmation signal. The confirmation signal was letting Madara touch him. Once Minato felt that Madara touched him. He knew Madara was solid so he teleported instantly and attacked with rasengan



Having a jutsu more advanced doesn't exactly mean you are going to be faster. It could be more advanced in other aspects but in speed wise it isn't
I'm going to give you the exact same pages there from,its not on animation








Everyone calls the raikage armor by lvl 1 & 2 quit being a smart ass like the 4th calls his ftg by lvl 1 & 2.Minato ftg is bootleg watered down if minato wanted to get to the moon he'd have no way but if tobi wanted to he get there quicker so who's techinque is faster???i done arguing with you bandwagon fan boi go be a groupie some were else
 

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lol:p as the some said here it is just the uchiha fans who says something as dumb. even though im a uchiha fan to or a Itachi fan i have to say without doubt that minato is faster!!!!!
That was just me trolling cus im so FFing sick of these topics beig made xd

Minato is faster. Fact.
 

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yup, this should end the argument, RAIKAGE IS FASTER than minato.
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Btw for the other guy in my thread that was closed, didnt u see the spoiler tag?? do i really need to say "spoiler" above the spoiler tag?
Lol you failed so hard Minato dodge that attack and appear behind bee ready to kill him BUT bee is quite fast as well by putting up a knife ready to stap minato so minato speed beat raikage
 

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fast,or speed means the amount of time it takes to get to point a to point b.
Raw speed no magic i think Minato wins.With magic,Minato still wins,don't under stand the confusion or the reason for debate.
 
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