This may be very controversial but...

[24 12 11 to troll]

Does anyone else think that in the dating game or during *** : women have it way easier than men.

Before you female members flame me : I'm not targeting you and I may only see one side of this but the way I see it all a girl has to do is:
- Be approachable
- Look as best you can ( which is almost routine for a large majority anyway )

Men on the other hand will often be the ones to approach and make a date request. This is incredibly difficult for shy guys: my younger brother was recently rejected ( he's shy ). Not only this but women often get to pick and choose: and in the rare occasion a woman approaches a man the bloke will look like Ryan Reynolds with an IQ of 148.

A lot of teenage girls and younger women ( around my age being 17 to 22ish ) will fantasise about what they see with models and on tele and EXPECT men to be built like a rock and be pretty much perfect, this causes many problems because males will not reach that standard EVER without use of makeup and having strict diets and working out three times a week for years upon years.

Another point is that in the dating game even within a relationship a guy is often the one making the first moves in many things e.g planning dates or *** ( which I will come onto later ). Which is more often than not ending in failure because guys are ... Guys.

Also when a girlfriend will fangirl over a real person she will normally make her companion FEEL inadequate and lower his self esteem of confidence if he takes things to heart. ( and yes girls , we do that ) : a girl could also take a partner fan young over a real person to heart but in the end if a bloke's getting some , it really doesn't matter who with , you can't really disappoint them. But girls are more picky etc...

Last but not least guys are expected to PERFORM WELL between the sheets , we normally only have a couple of "blasts" at best but a girl can go on for a VERY long time and has to do very little work.

Yeah... Don't flame me but these are just observations of mine... If you disagree with anything ; why?

 

[SpaceTime]

I completely agree with you I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and my confidence is pretty good, but there is much more intimidation coupled with being a male, than it would be for a female.

 

[The Necromancer]

There are some parts i agree with, and some parts i disagree with. I'll wait and see the responses.

 

[Umari Senju]

While a lot of this may be true, the flip side of the coin is women may not initiate most of the things you mentioned but they are expected to maintain what the guys have started.

For example: The dude has to work out and look good enough to approach the lady for a date, ***, etc. but it is expected of the women to, not only look their best, but continue to do so the rest of the relationship. Guys can let themselves go somewhat after they have landed the woman, but if the woman does so she risks him cheating on her or leaving her.

Also you have the whole baby thing. We do the deed and our part is done. It is the girls who have to carry that parasite(and I use that as an endearing term)around in their bellies for 9 months....Then labor (oh gawd I am traumatize by what i've seen)

When it comes to ***, Yes the guy does the work and it takes longer for a female to climax....no I take that back. A female's climax is largely dependent on how mentally stimulated she is as well as physically. Sure guys can do the deed, Climax and it's over. But the female is looking for more than just "the deed" they need to feel desired and there are things that guys loath doing to a females *** organ that would make them climax in an instant. I will stop there with that point as it is getting a bit steamy for this Forum

So all and all I would say the male has more to do when it comes to the initial courting of the other, but it's the female who has to maintain what is established once she has chosen.

Good Talk! XD

 

[Hipster Madara]

I do agree that the whole dating thing is easier for women but that is changing slightly nowadays.
I don't like any idols or anyone real like that and don't see myself interacting with those that do so I say if it bothers you, don't date them. Not that hard.

 

[kronoseth]

hmmmmm, well gals dont really have to worry about such things as premature ejaculation, impotence, size, stamina and so forth, so yes thy have it easier in the sheets, but elswhere i would say its about even

 

[xjimbox]

I see what your saying it makes sense

 

[~Hebi Terumi~]

Does anyone else think that in the dating game or during *** : women have it way easier than men.

Before you female members flame me : I'm not targeting you and I may only see one side of this but the way I see it all a girl has to do is:
- Be approachable
- Look as best you can ( which is almost routine for a large majority anyway )

Men on the other hand will often be the ones to approach and make a date request. This is incredibly difficult for shy guys: my younger brother was recently rejected ( he's shy ). Not only this but women often get to pick and choose: and in the rare occasion a woman approaches a man the bloke will look like Ryan Reynolds with an IQ of 148.

Honestly, this same kind of thing applies to men too. (I'm not sure how often)
1) A big reason why a lot of woman "pick and choose" is because of not only tradition, but of not seeming too "forward". Women have the mentality of waiting to be asked, because that's how it's been for awhile. (Men are also bound mostly by this tradition. They ask, women answer. No one can really be faulted for this.)

A lot of teenage girls and younger women ( around my age being 17 to 22ish ) will fantasise about what they see with models and on tele and EXPECT men to be built like a rock and be pretty much perfect, this causes many problems because males will not reach that standard EVER without use of makeup and having strict diets and working out three times a week for years upon years.

2) The fantasizing. Yes, women will fantasize about their men looking a certain way, but you bet your ass, that men fantasize about their women looking a certain way too. The photoshoped magazine covers of female super models on "Sport's Illustrated" and all the other ones, cater to a male audience, and aren't exactly realistic depictions of women. And, women will not reach that standard of beauty either without the criteria you listed for the men as well.

Another point is that in the dating game even within a relationship a guy is often the one making the first moves in many things e.g planning dates or *** ( which I will come onto later ). Which is more often than not ending in failure because guys are ... Guys.

3) Again, that's just tradition and women not wanting to seem too "forward", because that gets into a lot of other muddier topics. Ex. A woman who talks about *** too much must be a ****.

Also when a girlfriend will fangirl over a real person she will normally make her companion FEEL inadequate and lower his self esteem of confidence if he takes things to heart. ( and yes girls , we do that ) : a girl could also take a partner fan young over a real person to heart but in the end if a bloke's getting some , it really doesn't matter who with , you can't really disappoint them. But girls are more picky etc...

4) Of course girls are picky, they're the ones saddled with the choice (in most cases). If they chose a bad man, and that's a common mistake, they're faulted for being stupid by both genders.

Last but not least guys are expected to PERFORM WELL between the sheets , we normally only have a couple of "blasts" at best but a girl can go on for a VERY long time and has to do very little work.

5) This I can agree with.

Trust me, it's the most controversial topic ever brought up on this site.

 

[Jinrou]

I know right??? :T_T: This isn't controversial at all...I totally agree with you :T_T:
I feel for your younger bro...I'm kinda shy too :NO:
The Horror :T_T:

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

While a lot of this may be true, the flip side of the coin is women may not initiate most of the things you mentioned but they are expected to maintain what the guys have started.

For example: The dude has to work out and look good enough to approach the lady for a date, ***, etc. but it is expected of the women to, not only look their best, but continue to do so the rest of the relationship. Guys can let themselves go somewhat after they have landed the woman, but if the woman does so she risks him cheating on her or leaving her.

Also you have the whole baby thing. We do the deed and our part is done. It is the girls who have to carry that parasite(and I use that as an endearing term)around in their bellies for 9 months....Then labor (oh gawd I am traumatize by what i've seen)

When it comes to ***, Yes the guy does the work and it takes longer for a female to climax....no I take that back. A female's climax is largely dependent on how mentally stimulated she is as well as physically. Sure guys can do the deed, Climax and it's over. But the female is looking for more than just "the deed" they need to feel desired and there are things that guys loath doing to a females *** organ that would make them climax in an instant. I will stop there with that point as it is getting a bit steamy for this Forum

So all and all I would say the male has more to do when it comes to the initial courting of the other, but it's the female who has to maintain what is established once she has chosen.

Good Talk! XD

Although you may be correct you're referring to girls with very narrow minded companions , a guy won't leave a girl if she has one day without makeup when she doesn't go outside etc.

Childbirth: I do agree , but that's not a part of the dating game is it? xD

Women have it harder biologically but mentally a man has it worse.

 

[Netferarri]

Lol your right XD

 

[Umari Senju]

Although you may be correct you're referring to girls with very narrow minded companions , a guy won't leave a girl if she has one day without makeup when she doesn't go outside etc.

Childbirth: I do agree , but that's not a part of the dating game is it? xD

Women have it harder biologically but mentally a man has it worse.

This is true indeed. You do raise a valid point. Women do have it harder physically while men have it harder mentally. As the poster Hebi Terumi said this is largely because of Tradition. Our mental anguish from these points you made are usually kept to themselves where the male is concerned as sharing you feelings with someone other than your girl(like your best bud) might be seen as effeminate or weak. Though I suppose the same could be said for women as well.

 

[Nous]

I agree for the most part. In fact, science has proven that women are pickier than men when it comes to selecting partners/mate. Also, I think it's easier for a women to make a guy fall for her than vice versa.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Honestly, this same kind of thing applies to men too. (I'm not sure how often)
1) A big reason why a lot of woman "pick and choose" is because of not only tradition, but of not seeming too "forward". Women have the mentality of waiting to be asked, because that's how it's been for awhile. (Men are also bound mostly by this tradition. They ask, women answer. No one can really be faulted for this.)

Tradition is all but forgotten in this day and age unless you live a tribal life. This is the only tradition you hear of and see day to day.

2) The fantasizing. Yes, women will fantasize about their men looking a certain way, but you bet your ass, that men fantasize about their women looking a certain way too. The photoshoped magazine covers of female super models on "Sport's Illustrated" and all the other ones, cater to a male audience, and aren't exactly realistic depictions of women. And, women will not reach that standard of beauty either without the criteria you listed for the men as well.

But men don't turn down someone because they don't look like a super model. I've seen and heard many cases when guys get turned down because they aren't vain enough to go to the gym all the time and flex in front of a mirror all day.

3) Again, that's just tradition and women not wanting to seem too "forward", because that gets into a lot of other muddier topics. Ex. A woman who talks about *** too much must be a ****.

A woman who approaches a man is seen to be more outgoing and confident.

4) Of course girls are picky, they're the ones saddled with the choice (in most cases). If they chose a bad man, and that's a common mistake, they're faulted for being stupid by both genders.

Girls have it easier because they are picky. They dump guys because of the way they dress or they are interested in a sport she isn't... Men tend to have a far more meaningful and logical reason to turn someone down , girls come across as being turned off by anything these days...

5) This I can agree with.

Trust me, it's the most controversial topic ever brought up on this site.

Not sure whether to be proud of that or not...

 

[Hunty]

Does anyone else think that in the dating game or during *** : women have it way easier than men.

Yes, in some ways - including the fact that even more unattractive women still find dates.

Before you female members flame me : I'm not targeting you and I may only see one side of this but the way I see it all a girl has to do is:
- Be approachable
- Look as best you can ( which is almost routine for a large majority anyway )

First off, "be approachable?" Women work really hard to look good looking for men. Including makeup, hair, nails, clothing, staying skinny.

Men on the other hand will often be the ones to approach and make a date request.

Because that's a social stereotype people have developed.

This is incredibly difficult for shy guys: my younger brother was recently rejected ( he's shy ). Not only this but women often get to pick and choose: and in the rare occasion a woman approaches a man the bloke will look like Ryan Reynolds with an IQ of 148.

This is true, women are more pickier when it comes to "Mr. Right." It's all in the girls natural taste for men, and attraction.

A lot of teenage girls and younger women ( around my age being 17 to 22ish ) will fantasise about what they see with models and on tele and EXPECT men to be built like a rock and be pretty much perfect, this causes many problems because males will not reach that standard EVER without use of makeup and having strict diets and working out three times a week for years upon years.

Better start working out.

Another point is that in the dating game even within a relationship a guy is often the one making the first moves in many things e.g planning dates or *** ( which I will come onto later ). Which is more often than not ending in failure because guys are ... Guys.

Once again, it's just one of those things us humans do. We've developed it over time.

Also when a girlfriend will fangirl over a real person she will normally make her companion FEEL inadequate and lower his self esteem of confidence if he takes things to heart. ( and yes girls , we do that ) : a girl could also take a partner fan young over a real person to heart but in the end if a bloke's getting some , it really doesn't matter who with , you can't really disappoint them. But girls are more picky etc...

That's a women for ya'.. my boyfriend does this too me all the time. It pisses me off.

Last but not least guys are expected to PERFORM WELL between the sheets , we normally only have a couple of "blasts" at best but a girl can go on for a VERY long time and has to do very little work.

Yeah... Don't flame me but these are just observations of mine... If you disagree with anything ; why?

What can I say - women love men who can perform amazing ***.

Note: I'm a gay male - I understand everything you're going though, plus some.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

This is true indeed. You do raise a valid point. Women do have it harder physically while men have it harder mentally. As the poster Hebi Terumi said this is largely because of Tradition. Our mental anguish from these points you made are usually kept to themselves where the male is concerned as sharing you feelings with someone other than your girl(like your best bud) might be seen as effeminate or weak. Though I suppose the same could be said for women as well.

Exactly. And being mentally damaged will put your chances even further in turmoil. Survival of the fittest ; but to be the fittest you must be confident , you won't be confident in mental turmoil.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Your generalizing all females with that post.

Stop complaining because you or your brother don't got the balls to ask someone out.

No girl is obligated to ask you out and no girl should feel some type of way because your "nice" or "down to earth" and she finds someone else attractive and persues them.

I personally have asked very few girls out and most of them have come up to me so i do understand shyness
I am a very quiet guy and also very short too.

Basically what i am trying to say is get over your short comings and stop trying to place blame on the females

Until you stop fronting and making excuses you will never fix your problem

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Yes, in some ways - including the fact that even more unattractive women still find dates.



First off, "be approachable?" Women work really hard to look good looking for men. Including makeup, hair, nails, clothing, staying skinny.



Because that's a social stereotype people have developed.



This is true, women are more pickier when it comes to "Mr. Right." It's all in the girls natural taste for men, and attraction.



Better start working out.



Once again, it's just one of those things us humans do. We've developed it over time.



That's a women for ya'.. my boyfriend does this too me all the time. It pisses me off.



What can I say - women love men who can perform amazing ***.

Note: I'm a gay male - I understand everything you're going though, plus some.

Lucky for you that gay men are often the most successful in the dating game ; you probably don't understand what it's like to be dumped after a 8 month relationship for someone else for these reasons:
I am "boring"
I don't go to the gym. I even told her I would if she took care of her body too ( neither of us did beforehand ) and the other guy does ( he's not even bench either , I don't see why this reason mattered )
It "wasn't working" when we were a very good match

Do you have any idea how horrible it feels to be so heartlessly put down? And to deadmanwonderland : I've just been dumped. Unlike you I'm capable of staying down on earth instead of up in the clouds , I've been in a few relationships ; always made the first moves and always dumped. Your comments are irrelevant because I also say things like: " a large number " " some" " come across as" , this is not generalising.

 

[Umari Senju]

Your generalizing all females with that post.

Stop complaining because you or your brother don't got the balls to ask someone out.

No girl is obligated to ask you out and no girl should feel some type of way because your "nice" or "down to earth" and she finds someone else attractive and persues them.

I personally have asked very few girls out and most of them have come up to me so i do understand shyness
I am a very quiet guy and also very short too.

Basically what i am trying to say is get over your short comings and stop trying to place blame on the females

Until you stop fronting and making excuses you will never fix your problem

I think you missed the point of the thread. He is not bashing women. He is making a comparison when it comes to courting the fairer ***. Confident guys have it easier, especially when they are not faced with rejection regularly. Being good looking increases your chances(that goes for both sides of course.) He is simply saying guys have to work harder at it, at least from his experience. I suppose those view change depending on the guy/girl and their level of confidence.

Lucky for you that gay men are often the most successful in the dating game ; you probably don't understand what it's like to be dumped after a 8 month relationship for someone else for these reasons:
I am "boring"
I don't go to the gym. I even told her I would if she took care of her body too ( neither of us did beforehand ) and the other guy does ( he's not even bench either , I don't see why this reason mattered )
It "wasn't working" when we were a very good match

Actually, Gay guys have it waaaaaaaay worse! LOL They first need to jump the biggest hurdle...."Is he even attracted to men?"

Say that the other guy is.. Gay men can be(and usually are) far more judgmental when it comes to courting. You think women are picky? OMG I have seen some of the worst rejections come from gay men and women for the most minute reasons:

His car seat had too much clutter on it. Not a match. His house isn't as big as I thought it would be. Next?, His income isn't to my standards. He's too short, too tall, too skinny, too fat, too light skinned, too dark, not in the same social background.

I could keep going.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

women have boobs.

/thread

I suppose you've got a point...
XD