This is why the pairings ended up like they did

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Because once a woman's heart is set, its very hard to change.

Naruto winning Sakura over would have been equivalent to moving heaven and Earth. But all that was needed for Sakura and Sasuke to happen was for Sasuke to settle down and accept Sakura's love. Same thing with Naruto and Hinata. Once Naruto realized Sakura was never going to be his, it would have been really easy for him to simply accept Hinata's love. It makes sense that SakuraXSasuke happened as opposed to InoXSasuke, as Sakura showed more love to him overall.

Now of course this can go both ways, ie a woman simply accepting a man's love, but its much easier for a man to do it. People might say women are fickle, but honestly its us men that are the fickle ones. A man's love for a women is less complicated and much more primal then a women's love for a man. A women is much more hard wired for relationships, when a man is less hard wired for that. Its genetics, evolution. It helps reproduction in nature if the women gets attached easily and the man feels less attachment. Honestly, its quite easy for a man to simply see a women's love for them in their eyes and simply fulfill that love.

For once, Kishi catered to the women of his manga and we can all learn a life lesson from this, honestly.
 

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Because once a woman's heart is set, its very hard to change.

Naruto winning Sakura over would have been equivalent to moving heaven and Earth. But all that was needed for Sakura and Sasuke to happen was for Sasuke to settle down and accept Sakura's love. Same thing with Naruto and Hinata. Once Naruto realized Sakura was never going to be his, it would have been really easy for him to simply accept Hinata's love. It makes sense that SakuraXSasuke happened as opposed to InoXSasuke, as Sakura showed more love to him overall.

Now of course this can go both ways, ie a woman simply accepting a man's love, but its much easier for a man to do it. People might say women are fickle, but honestly its us men that are the fickle ones. A man's love for a women is less complicated and much more primal then a women's love for a man. A women is much more hard wired for relationships, when a man is less hard wired for that. Its genetics, evolution. It helps reproduction in nature if the women gets attached easily and the man feels less attachment. Honestly, its quite easy for a man to simply see a women's love for them in their eyes and simply fulfill that love.

For once, Kishi catered to the women of his manga and we can all learn a life lesson from this, honestly.
Nah, Sakura was schoolboy type of crush, Hinata is the chick a real man wants and needs.
 

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Sasuke didn't care about anybody until his horizons were opened. The actual moment was rushed and it was very drastic- but after Naruto beat him he didn't have a goal beyond improving himself and listening not to his 'ambition' but his 'humanity' (as Kishi would have wanted it). I think that SS makes sense (ok shoot me now)
 

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@OP: But it completely nerfed Naruto's nindo.

Under your logic,

Sakura's determination > Naruto's nindo, who even cut his own arm
 
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Men can truly change who they like, woman can't. If Naruto got with Sakura she would have been dreaming of that Uchiha D. + Rep.
This, essentially. Or at the very least, if you were to bet on it I'd say its a much better chance of a man changing who he loves rather than a woman doing it.
 
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What is this bull shit ?
The truth.

Naruto's nindo was nerfed by Sakura's love for Sasuke.

Kishimoto told beforehand that he didn't know how to write romanticism.

Well, in real life the blooming of a new love is not 'deserved', but Kishimoto made it happen:

...NaruHina is canon due Hinata's acts, SasuSaku is canon due Sakura's patience.

Kishimoto completely ignored Naruto's feelings and Sasuke's feelings in this scheme. They went directly to the trash can.
 

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The truth.

Naruto's nindo was nerfed by Sakura's love for Sasuke.

Kishimoto told beforehand that he didn't know how to write romanticism.

Well, in real life the blooming of a new love is not 'deserved', but Kishimoto made it happen:

...NaruHina is canon due Hinata's acts, SasuSaku is canon due Sakura's patience.

Kishimoto completely ignored Naruto's feelings and Sasuke's feelings in this scheme. They went directly to the trash can.
Hinata has the same nindo
 

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Because once a woman's heart is set, its very hard to change.

Naruto winning Sakura over would have been equivalent to moving heaven and Earth. But all that was needed for Sakura and Sasuke to happen was for Sasuke to settle down and accept Sakura's love. Same thing with Naruto and Hinata. Once Naruto realized Sakura was never going to be his, it would have been really easy for him to simply accept Hinata's love. It makes sense that SakuraXSasuke happened as opposed to InoXSasuke, as Sakura showed more love to him overall.

Now of course this can go both ways, ie a woman simply accepting a man's love, but its much easier for a man to do it. People might say women are fickle, but honestly its us men that are the fickle ones. A man's love for a women is less complicated and much more primal then a women's love for a man. A women is much more hard wired for relationships, when a man is less hard wired for that. Its genetics, evolution. It helps reproduction in nature if the women gets attached easily and the man feels less attachment. Honestly, its quite easy for a man to simply see a women's love for them in their eyes and simply fulfill that love.

For once, Kishi catered to the women of his manga and we can all learn a life lesson from this, honestly.
I am a woman, and if someone I "loved" had done even something that remotely puts my life at risk, I would drop him like a hot potato.

Women with self respect would never continue loving someone who treats them like trash. Take it from a woman.
 

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For once, Kishi catered to the women of his manga and we can all learn a life lesson from this, honestly.
Lmao But that's an interesting take.

That doesn't change the fact that Kishimoto ignored Naruto's feeling for Hinata's sake.
Well did you want him to ignore Sakura's feeling for Naruto's sake? What is she? A trophee to be handed over?

I am a woman, and if someone I "loved" had done even something that remotely puts my life at risk, I would drop him like a hot potato.

Women with self respect would never continue loving someone who treats them like trash. Take it from a woman.
Sakura went to kill him. She would have if her resolve was a little stronger and she could hold on to it for a little bit more.

Not defending his attempt to kill her back but he was on another track at the time and he didn't put her at risk on purpose. She put herself there.

Personally I would be skeptic of giving anther chance to such a guy who went down that road and did try to kill me but then I'm not Sakura. ( either way if I am trying to kill someone I am not about to get angry at him for trying to kill me back just because I believe I had a higher moral ground. That would be me taking the risk for my own moral values, not the other person.)

Her situation is slightly different because she has watched what Oro did and to an extent felt sympathy for the circumstance which put him on that road. She didn't support those acts ever but she had sympathy for him. The fact she already admired him only augmented on that.
 
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Well did you want him to ignore Sakura's feeling for Naruto's sake? What is she? A trophee to be handed over?
No, I wanted to see how Sakura could be honest and reject Naruto in his face, and the same thing with Naruto, rejecting Hinata due his feelings for Sakura.

Naruto lost an arm to fulfill his promise for Sakura and himself, Naruto deserved Sakura's honestly for once, this honesty being shown to the manga readers of course. Naruto even went far enough to reject Sakura after Pain's invasion, due Sakura's lack of honesty.

Anyways, your question is overruled. It is as if Naruto were a trophee to be handed over, less valuable than Sakura.
 

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No, I wanted to see how Sakura could be honest and reject Naruto in his face, and the same thing with Naruto, rejecting Hinata due his feelings for Sakura.
Sakura did it already. It would be pathetic if Naruto knowing her feelings for Sasuke could ask her again. If Sasuke was dead and hadn't returned or had rejected Sakura( it would seem like a pity in such a case) then it would have been different.

And I don't see why Naruto should die virgin because one girl Sakura liked someone else. So he did the next best thing and married someone who loved him. And you know what marrying someone who loves you is always a smart thing.

Naruto lost an arm to fulfill his promise for Sakura and himself, Naruto deserved Sakura's honestly for once, this honesty being shown to the manga readers of course. Naruto even went far enough to reject Sakura after Pain's invasion, due Sakura's lack of honesty.

Anyways, your question is overruled. It is as if Naruto were a trophee to be handed over, less valuable than Sakura.
Naruto didn't do it for Sakura's sake. She freed him when she tried to make a confession in order to relieve him of any pressure on her account. Naruto wanted him back as a friend himself + he made a promise to Itachi too ( that was more of an obligation seeing the whole circumstances and most importantly to end the conflict with the Indra incarnation who wasn't getting a closer.

By using just enough force to resist Sasuke instead of trying to kill him he made him see how much he cared for him. It had little to do with Sakura at this point and a hell lot of bigger picture and things at stake.
 
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Naruto didn't do it for Sakura's sake. She freed him when she tried to make a confession in order to relieve him of any pressure on her account. Naruto wanted him back as a friend himself + he made a promise to Itachi too ( that was more of an obligation seeing the whole circumstances and most importantly to end the conflict with the Indra incarnation who wasn't getting a closer.

By using just enough force to resist Sasuke instead of trying to kill him he made him see how much he cared for him. It had little to do with Sakura at this point and a hell lot of bigger picture and things at stake.
That doesn't remove the fact that Sakura still owed him a share of honesty.

Really... I felt both Naruto and Sakura were not honest in the end. That's what really I find annoying in this ending.
 

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I am a woman, and if someone I "loved" had done even something that remotely puts my life at risk, I would drop him like a hot potato.

Women with self respect would never continue loving someone who treats them like trash. Take it from a woman.
Granted, I wasn't actually taking into account the LOGIC of reasons WHY Sakura still loved Sasuke, only the emotional side. Basically I was thinking independently of Sasuke hurting her/ trying to kill her. To clarify further, I was focusing on how easy it was for Sasuke to turn a new leaf and accept her, same with Naruto. In addition, on average, I'd say men start new relationships faster than women after a breakup, specifically when they get dumped as opposed to dumping the other.

@Ira, same thing in reference to Sasuke trying to kill Sakura. I was simply focusing on how easy it was for Sasuke to simply accept her, not on how Sakura continued to love someone who hurt her.
 
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Sakura did it already. It would be pathetic if Naruto knowing her feelings for Sasuke could ask her again. If Sasuke was dead and hadn't returned or had rejected Sakura( it would seem like a pity in such a case) then it would have been different.

And I don't see why Naruto should die virgin because one girl Sakura liked someone else. So he did the next best thing and married someone who loved him. And you know what marrying someone who loves you is always a smart thing.



Naruto didn't do it for Sakura's sake. She freed him when she tried to make a confession in order to relieve him of any pressure on her account. Naruto wanted him back as a friend himself + he made a promise to Itachi too ( that was more of an obligation seeing the whole circumstances and most importantly to end the conflict with the Indra incarnation who wasn't getting a closer.

By using just enough force to resist Sasuke instead of trying to kill him he made him see how much he cared for him. It had little to do with Sakura at this point and a hell lot of bigger picture and things at stake.
Saw the edit, and point is taken.

But then why did Naruto joke about that in front of his dad? It doesn't make sense...
 
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