This is getting annoying: ( Managa/Kishi Rants)

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Re: This is getting annoying

That's respectable, but I kinda disagree. These past two chapters have proven to me that kishi is still on top of his game.

This entire fight between Naruto and Obito wasn't just a fight to save the world after all. Naruto's intentions were slightly hidden until now.
Naruto once asked obito a while back who he was, and obito replied he was "no one" and that he didn't want to be anyone.
That is the reason for these two chapters.
Naruto was fighting, from the very beginning, to reveal and save his enemy.

Go back to when Nagato entrusted Naruto to bring true peace to the world. All of that is coming into play now.
Naruto just stopped obito in a way where obito doesn't hate him.
He's broken the cycle of hatred within obito.

Kishi has done wonders with Naruto's development.
Goodjob Bro. Urs is by far the best comment ave seen here. Someone that has an indepth understanding of Naruto Manga.
 

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My only observation for Masashi Kishimoto is he based his character in what you called "Zodiac Signs". i bet some of you know about it.

Naruto's Zodiac is "Libra"

Libra's is known to be a good conversationalist and can resolve a problem not just in combat, he can calm his enemies just only by talking to them, now that is Libra. TNJ (Talk-No-Jutsu).

Libra's Element is "Air" and Naruto's chakra nature is "Wind". Fuuton Rasen-Shuriken!

Sasuke is Leo i dunno more about leo just google it up im lazy!

Leo's Element is "Fire" and Sasuke one of his chakra nature is Fire.

and i know as the story progress they will learn more chakra nature.

I maybe a bit off-topic here but still i do have some points amirite?

dont bash TNJ much isnt it ironic that the strongest enemy of all, get's TNJ'ed! Libra's style maybe?
 
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I'd say if you don't like it any more and can predict how it will all play out then you should probably quit waisting your time, find something you do like, then quit waisting everyone's time crying about it.
 

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You don't like it then don't read it. Stop complaining. You're causing yourself to hate more on Naruto.
I'd say if you don't like it any more and can predict how it will all play out then you should probably quit waisting your time, find something you do like, then quit waisting everyone's time crying about it.
You two would make lousy writers if your response to complaints about your story is "Don't like it,don't read it".It's almost as if you want customers to stop supporting Kishi's work when you say that.
 

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You two would make lousy writers if your response to complaints about your story is "Don't like it,don't read it".It's almost as if you want customers to stop supporting Kishi's work when you say that.
It's almost like you think Kishimoto would actually pay attention to anything said on these forums. Fun fact, he doesn't, so complaining here does absolutely nothing except rile up everyone into a frenzy and make people hate the story even more because they won't see any change in the story to their liking at any point during the the story's existence.
 
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You two would make lousy writers if your response to complaints about your story is "Don't like it,don't read it".It's almost as if you want customers to stop supporting Kishi's work when you say that.
Or... hear me out on this. We could organize a meeting, get everyone who wants to pick apart every mistake, error, misspelling, theory, and concept. Then we all travel to Japan and proceed to throw the world's largest flash mob tantrum until Kishi writes out what we want. Cause we want it. We want it now.

You all realize this story isn't Burger King.. you can't always have it your way.

And for anyone still fired up to have a go at me for saying this. . . 5 words. Put up'or'shut up.
Write a better story and put me in my place. Otherwise stop crying to the world about how you don't like what your choosing to spend your time on. I don't like reading romance novels.. so guess what.. I don't waste my time reading them or creating pointless threads telling everyone about it.
 

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U mean to say people dont change or dont have realization? ...... Obito was originally like Naruto but he changed, that alone means he can be changed back ....
Obito can be changed once he died like a villain



And what made you 100% sure its gonna be? .... you basing your argument and passing judgement on apossibility?
Heh it's not that I'm 100% right, but from what I've seen, I'm pretty sure the majority of the fans in this community would be totally unsatisfying.

Again, I'm not stating facts here, but this can be easily assume.












Because fans decides the hype and places their expectations sky high ...

Did Kishi categorically say that he is going to waste time on some by-gones instead of some proper plot progression? ....

Yeah like the entire scenario was possible due to plot ....

So? ..... Kishi does not and should not cater to everyone's expectations .... the story should progress with the newer characters (all the new introduction had more or less proper presentation) ..... if ethere was any mistake it was bringing the known dead back ... except Itachi ....

Well you may consider them fodder ... but you dont decide them as fodder ...
Wow, so you rather have a war with Only focused on a Main character being way too OP doing all the dirty work with getting repetition Praises, Tnj & Fnj skipped ALL the Fights without any screen time, brutality , suspense or plots to the story ???

I don't find this good story telling at all. Why Kishi even bother brought up all the hype in the first place but never utilize in the manga.
There should be the sense of threats in the "Fourth Great Shinobi War" meaning that any one that hold s importance of the story like should die and all the fight should be epic and intense.

That's is why Naruto Part 1 & OnePiece >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shippuden









Actually in Part 1 only we knew that Naruto was the container of the fox who can easily solo an entire village .... nothing changed really ... just less screen time ...
That's where you're wrong, even Naruto had the fox inside him, everyone strength is almost equal and its unpredictable, some can outmatched Naruto, while some can fight on par.

Naruto had struggled against many formidable opponents multiple times

The fact that Naruto defeat opponents like Neji, that was totally hard work and by pure luck.

But now that he's prophecy child, thats when his characterization ****ed up.



we would have too many side stories that way ..... too much time consuming ...
Having alot of side stories is alot better than having a repetitive of NaruSauceke. Other character tragedies would bring more fulfilling to the story.
Plus it can also progress the story so long if Kishi made a plot for these characters but even they don't the plot can still progress nether less .


"You 'thought' right? .... some other calmer people noticed that obito was a conflicted person who didnt want to feel the pain he felt and was trying to look for a escape .... if Madara's TnJ can work on a Naruto like person why shouldnt Naruto's TnJ work on a conflicted Madara like person?"
His only conflict is wanting Rin ***** that triggers him to cast Infinite dreamworld. His Will is just too strong that he got mind****ed by Naruto Fist of Might on some Izanami sht.



Many of us told you so ..... most of you power level wankers didnt notice that Obito's entire current existance was about love .... And a person who has loved can be made to do so again ...

And Many of us wanted to see more action than spewing BS Dialogue that we've encountered that exposition repetitively multiple times.



Do so ... I have time to waste ...
- Because no one dies cause everyone who isn't a main

- Character is complete fodder

- More talking then fighting

- More flash backs then fighting

- No one has really died except Neji and Hq even though Neji death was lame cause he had no developments in Shippuden and his death was so random that nobody didn't see it coming mile away


- Because the power scale is retarded

- The war has no real purpose at this point.





Didnt Obito stab Madara in the back by going against the plan? ... thats QUITE appropiate actually .... but I guess most of you people dont notice these things ....
I never said I didn't see this coming, it's obvious that Obito and Madara doesn't get along -_-



That quite right actually .... every generation except one before Naruto did what you what to see ... they fought and killed and continued the cycle of hatred .... Hashirama made friends with the enemy and managed to reduce the chaos of the Clan Wars Era ..... so you think Naruto is going to just kill his enemies and somehow manage to bring peace? If u think yes, please dont offer you criticism here bcos you clearly must learn to use logic first ....
Madara has No Interest In Peace, he had been sticking to his Masterplan ever since the fight with Hashirama. He's the type of dude who doesn't give a sht, he'll never get tnj, and he'll do anything to achieve his plan. A villain should consider the sense of danger to the story and that's what he should be doing.

If he get tnj, then this would be load of BS, after all he's been doing over 100+ yrs.



No you must have presumed that when the Wolf ate the girl the story ended with a tragic end and at the worst case scenario the wolf might shit out the old lady and the girl together and they will be together forever .... Basically I mean that its not over until its over ....
That would be cool as ****




Well when you put your matters in a public forums it became people's bushiness ....
Lol, I guess this implies you're so butt hurt that you just can't deal with people opinions more arguably you just can't help but being lectured by me



Well you lack simple thinking ..... when things go bad, its better to avoid the bad part and come back for the good part if it gets better .... because none gonna or in fact should sympathize with you if you consciously choose to do something you know you are not gonna like, for example like sitting on a cactus knowing its a cactus ...
True in the sense that fans can drop take breaks whenever they are frustrated, but I don't simply drop manga I once cherish that grasp my interest even now, I still love and thinking about this series everyday.











Very few can actually ..... very few can actually detect the real problem with the manga actually ....
You must be very stupid if you're thinking that the story is inconstant. The war right now can easily be predictable, how many people say that Obito get tnj.??


'Obito shd stay ebil' ... 'OMG its TnJ ... its not discussing and reaching out in hope that all people find peace instead of mindless fighting and killing' .... 'LoL Hunter X Hunter rocks (well actually it does)' .... etc are not solid arguments ... nor assumptions are facts ...
Well this isn;t like the old Naruto...
 
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I actually went back to the start of the Juubito fight and quickly realized we're still in the middle of the action. Things are still progressing at a rapid pace. Also, a lot of insight about Obito's character as a villian. He states in ch. 646

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that he became unsure of his dedication and that during the entire battle, he was attempting to re-affirm his shaken faith. So EITHER him trying to choke Naruto in the latest chapter was Obito's final attempt to play the "tough guy" act (and failed miserably because Naruto saw right through it) or he's going to go into rage mode and try once again re-affirm his faith in the plan.


In any case, removing the tailed beasts apparently doesn't remove Obito's status as a Host for the 10 tails. It merely makes him a shell and prevents him from blossoming the tree

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...I have a feeling that Madara will attempt to make use of that shell...in a very literal form.
 
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